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<0> Lion-O: I didn't have to kill it ever. it just happens accidently..
<1> schitzo: problem is that it's not effective over more than a few inches, unless you want to be living in a m***ive EM/RF field
<2> there, kitchen clean....now for the living room
<3> Strider: the amount of computer crap I sit around all day. I'm not worried about that
<1> schitzo: I spend my days with satellite transmitters, so I suppose I shouldn't be either
<4> Strider: well we do already. the power transissions lines, the EM field of the earth etc.
<1> XyZzY: right, but it's not that large... compared to what you'd need to transmit useable amounts of power reliably
<4> Strider: hm dunno about small stuff like watches/those headsets etc
<5> I've a jabra headset for the T630. It's crap compared with the real ericsson one.



<6> can anyone think of anything that would cause both ppp0 (adsl via alcatel330) to dir, and eth0 (sis900) to die, at the same time
<5> smsie: kernel revision?
<6> hmm, thinking about it, I'm not *positive* that ppp0 dies immediately. By the time I've noticed that NAT os no longer working, it's died thoguh
<7> smsie: Only thing I can think of is a power transient.
<6> whyzzyrd: 2.6.12 (stock Debian)
<5> smsie: There was some funniness reported on the lkml recently with ppp
<7> smsie: But that's only because my DSL PCI card died one time because of a thunderstorm ;)
<6> Tron: it *appears* to be random, and about an hour after the last time I bounce both interfaces
<5> smsie: but IIRC it was between 15.x and 16-rcfoo
<6> whyzzyrd: possibly time for me to upgrade kernel then
<6> whyzzyrd: yeah, this is 12
<5> smsie: I think the problem was introduced between 15.x and 16-rcfoo
<7> smsie: I have no problems witha 2.6.12 kernel and ppp
<6> 2.6.12-2-k7
<6> it might be a ****ed sis driver taking the networking subsystem down
<7> smsie: Though I'm running a Xen machine with 2.6.12 DOmain0 and DomU kernels.
<6> it's a headless box, so when eth0 dies, it's serial console time
<5> smsie: SIS are the worst bag of crap you can lay your hands on.
<5> smsie: have a free pci slot?
<7> Get rid of the SiS ****e.
<6> whyzzyrd: yeah, it's the onboard. I have a 10/100/1000 ordered from dabs (2 of them in fact, along with a 10/100/1000 switch)
<6> I'm planning on going gbit if possible anyway
<5> smsie: What did you order?
<8> smsie: Whatfor? :)
<5> PolarWolf: erm, to push files across?
<6> PolarWolf: because the price differential between gig capable and 100M capable was not worth mentioning...so I decided "what the ****" and ordered the 1000
<8> whyzzyrd: For a home network, I say overkill
<8> But who cares!
<9> No one cars!
<5> PolarWolf: I'm getting narked by being on 100M in the house still. It's slow when you need to move any significant amount of data
<6> whyzzyrd: the switch is netgear. The NICs are "dabs value" I think (cheap as ****...but I've had reasonable luck with "dabs value" kit in the past)



<5> smsie: realtek 8169's prolly then
<6> whyzzyrd: probably
<8> whyzzyrd: What kind of files are you moving?
<10> Hmmm... I'll repeat my question, OK? :)
<10> Can someone please help me find the RIGHT *.rpm file for X-Chat? I use Mandriva Linux (And yes, I have www.just****inggoogledit.com)
<8> pjott: There are wrong RPMs for xchat too?
<9> PolarWolf: Left i think... for communists...
<8> I'm sure Mandrake comes with xchat right on the CD
<6> whyzzyrd: I had a mobo with a realtek onboard not long ago (8129 I *think*?). Never had any problems with it
<0> PolarWolf: did you order your dual opteron box online?
<8> yoz: All the parts of it, yeah
<0> I'm planning to buy a server myself.. but dell is expensive I figured
<8> yoz: CPUs are secondhand though
<0> PolarWolf: may I ask how much the whole setup costs?
<6> whyzzyrd: ah, I was wrong. They are dlinks
<8> yoz: Yeah, hold on
<11> http://www.coolpics.nl/blog/index.php?id=1599 <-- hahaha great car
<8> yoz: All together (including the array controller), 1100
<8> yoz: ish
<0> PolarWolf: sounds good..
<8> yoz: 9something without the controller. No disks though, I already had those.
<0> PolarWolf: *nod* it's a tower I take it?
<8> yoz: http://www.antec.com/ec/productDetails.php?ProdID=91550
<11> yoz, dell is cheap for servers
<0> fredk_: cheap?
<11> yeah
<11> cheap :)
<8> Dell doesn't do AMD
<0> PolarWolf: that's the point
<11> yet
<0> PolarWolf: and who wants a xeon?
<8> fredk_: Until I see it listed, they don't do AMD :)
<11> PolarWolf, yeah
<8> yoz: I can give you a product list and what I paid for the components tomorrow
<0> PolarWolf: that'd be nice..
<0> PolarWolf: the titan case is nice..


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