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<0> Tamahome: we could do something
<1> remember, we gotta keep the public afraid. that's the best way to control them
<2> safemode: bingo. the MSM doesn't like to report any good news apparently.
<3> these terrorists are just like the geeks in highschool that had their underwear hoisted onto the flagpole
<4> true
<3> they just wanna be treated fair
<5> I've learned that if you compile gentoo's generic kernels, you're in for a world of hurt.
<6> docfu: http://www.criticalstop.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Generic&id=dsc_0105
<6> http://www.criticalstop.com/gallery/view_photo.php?set_albumName=Generic&id=dsc_0106
<2> duplex: whoever said gentoo itself was a cakewalk? ;)
<1> duplex: why compile a kernel from a distro? if you're gonna compile a kernel, go get one from kernel.org
<5> safemode: Um... because it's the initial installation.
<1> the whole point of distro kernels is to run a kernel compiled and tested by them...not compiled by you ...that defeats the purpose
<1> the initial installation has to run on a kernel that's already compiled. . any afterward compilation is not initial anymore.
<5> safemode: I know. I was just installing the generic kernel, and once the system was fully installed, was going to recompile it. I didn't know that would mean +10 hours of compile time.
<3> siglite very nice
<5> safemode: No it doesn't. You've never ran gentoo have you?
<6> they're filthy, lots of smudges and dust on 'em
<3> siglite so's your wife after she's been out drinking
<3> erp *runs*
<1> duplex: the boot cd / image whatever runs on a precompiled kernel. that's your initial install kernel. any kernels compiled afterward isn't initial, no matter what gentoo calls it
<6> hah
<2> duplex: most distro kernels just put in alot of excess garbage as modules. Most of those modules don't apply on ones own system
<5> safemode: it's a live cd that loads up, and then compiles and installs your entire OS.
<5> cappicard: I know that. But I didn't expect it to be THAT large.
<3> siglite tis ok, if she didn't like that line she can come in here and kick my *** herself :)
<2> yeah. it took forever to build my kernel in ubuntu
<1> so use the kernel the live cd used to bootup.. that's your initial kernel. then go and compile a real release.
<5> cappicard: I figured maybe like 2-3 hours at the most. 10+ hours. But it appears to be finishing up now.
<6> she's too busy to bother right now
<7> safemode: my gentoo install was bootstrapped from a running debian system, no default gentoo kernel was involved
<6> 10+ hours to compile a kernel?
<5> safemode: The plan was to install the base system so it could boot on it's own, THEN recompile it.
<5> siglite: Yep.
<6> on what? a 386/33 ?
<5> siglite: emulating a pentium 2 with qemu.
<6> and with WHAT ohardware support?
<6> oh
<1> virtual machines ...blegh
<6> but that was on 386s
<3> i did one that took 36 once :)
<5> siglite: gentoo's generic kernel. I figured I would recompile it later, not realizing it must have every single hardware known to man in the menuconfig.
<3> thank god i got it right on the first try
<1> yea, it takes 3.33 minutes to compile a 2.6 kernel now
<6> had this 386/33 that I used as a corporate firewall for years.
<6> it took several hours to compile. 4-6 or so.
<0> 486sx25 here, for a while.
<0> long while. very long while.
<1> OC that bitch
<0> safemode: I did. to a p166 ;)
<3> siglite mine was long cause it was an Amiga 3000 16mhz with no drivespace, so /usr/src was mounted over NFS via a null modem cable from my p200 =)
<6> good lord
<4> man, still being at the mercy of a 16mhz 680x0
<8> how use the comand find . . . find /?
<6> dcapitado: `man find`
<3> that box is dead now, long live the amiga
<4> worst compile I can think of is when I built all of XFree86 for Solaris 7 on my dual Celeron 400... think it was a bit over 4 hours
<1> oh yea?
<1> try building xorg modular tree
<1> on anything
<1> _at all_
<4> oh I wouldn't think of it, I'd just get a binary... but back then I was a tester for the oh what was it again, some special way of dealing with nVidia chipsets
<4> so I had to build from scratch
<4> must've had too many beers, can't remember the name for ****
<1> well building xorg monolithic tree is quick and easy
<1> xorg monolithic takes like 30 minutes or so
<1> for all the libs and utilities
<4> I haven't used X in a few years now
<4> OS X kinda had all the apps I needed natively
<1> xorg modular spends 80% of the time running autoconf and ./configure. because the **** *** that designed it made each directory have it's own configure scripts that need to be generated and run...rather than a single top level script to create the makefiles for everything
<2> I last rebuilt X when I tried to use ubuntu. took me around 2 hours top to build X
<4> Derek: on what speed of CPU?
<2> 933MHz P3
<4> ah
<9> ae
<1> so with xorg modular right now, there is no centralized place to configure and build your xorg installation. you have to do basically every goddamn directory separately
<2> on the coppermine core
<2> on my old K6-2/350, took me 8 hours
<4> Ed: fun fun
<10> hey
<10> who wants to help me with
<10> a network
<10> in my network
<4> not me
<10> :)
<1> on my box it takes about 30 minutes to compile X with decent compiler flags
<9> VRAJIT0RU what:
<11> VRAJIT0RU
<11> why
<11> do
<11> you
<2> wtf is with your enter key?
<11> yea, i stopped because it was even annoying me.
<12> next time
<12> anyone
<12> types like
<3> hey revenger
<12> this it
<12> will get
<12> a boot.
<3> what kind of parrot detection does hellhound have?
<4> Juergen :)
<12> docfu: its secret :P
<12> Sean.
<11> "don't touch me"
<4> heh, sbparrot
<3> Revenger cause it booted whyzzyrd the other day while he and i were playing pong....
<12> possible.
<12> partially matches. position independent.
<12> i **** == **** i
<3> wow
<3> BIG difference in context there...
<6> man
<6> my boy has the coolest matchbox "car" in the whole world.
<6> check this **** out
<6> http://www.criticalstop.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=cool_matchbox
<9> siglite give a voice
<9> i help in a #
<11> hahaha
<11> is that a matchbox spirit/opportunity?
<6> yup!
<11> well done.
<11> i wish my parents were that cool :\
<6> his uncle actually gave it to him
<11> ah
<11> i don't even have an uncle.
<6> but, we browse photos on JPL all the time, and the boy talks about 'em to everyone
<11> although i guess that greatly helped my odds of not getting molested by an uncle while growing up.
<11> so i can't really regret it.'
<6> LOL
<11> are you anywhere near maryland?
<11> i could get you guys a tour of goddard maybe :P
<6> I used to work there
<6> I worked in the EOS library
<13> hello
<14> hi!
<3> thats a cool matchbox
<13> i have a big quesion : how can i mount my windows drives in linux and make them automount everytime?
<14> i have conected 3 hdd to my box
<14> 2 i have mounted
<4> Andrei: put them in /etc/fstab
<14> but the third it's says//
<14> root@cata:/home# mount -t ext2 /dev/hdc1 /home/NOU2
<14> mount: special device /dev/hdc1 does not exist
<3> xmodel check the partition table
<14> how?
<4> also, check in /dev, does hdc1 exist?
<6> AndreiXpert: that's all in the mount man page. Pay particular attention to the stuff about fstab.
<11> no way
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