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<0> Use a temp file ;)
<1> hrm, i don't want a file to maintain
<1> sweet, i'm getting closer. now, how do i go from 0.0.0.0:xxxxx to just xxxxx?
<0> Use sed, cut, awk, perl, whatever
<0> sed's the easiest I guess
<1> whats the easiest way to say that i want char # to char #?
<0> Hmm, use cut then
<0> Still, I'd simple pipe it through sed
<0> s/ple/ply/
<1> alright! now i'm just email myself a port number! now how to add the rest of the url
<0> Sounds more and more like one hell of an ugly hack
<1> if it was a good hack i probably wouldn't understand it
<0> Heh
<1> how do you search for an app?
<0> rasputin666: "man which"
<1> mmmm....manwich



<1> okay. i give up for tonight
<1> thanks for all the help
<2> hello all
<2> hey all:D:d;d;d;d;
<3> whats best linux distribution?
<0> awtofordir: Totally depends on what you want to do with it and your skill level
<4> awtofordir: Whichever one works best for what you need to do and what you're able to administer.
<0> Though for general use, ubuntu seems to be the most popular one at, and probably for good reasons
<3> It seems the open community still competing, I am a newbie of linux. I dont have problem exploring the system.
<5> QUESTION OF PREFERENCE: KDE or GNOME?
<0> awtofordir: You could dig around at distrowatch.com a little, read up on several distros and then pick one. Or better yet, if you can afford to download multiple isos, grab a couple, testdrive them all for a few days and _then_ you decide
<6> t-0p: fix your caps lock key
<0> t-0p: Matter of personal taste and requirements
<3> But what make it difficult for me is the installation of some softwares. I can follow directions of some commands, but y not just click and install instead of using those commands.
<5> lol
<4> awtofordir: Because you'll learn a lot faster if you read the user's guide sometime.
<0> awtofordir: Go try Ubuntu then. You'll find that you have to do very little typing and that it's indeed a matter of clicking to install software
<0> awtofordir: But the thing is, don't forget that linux is and always will be a more technical os. If you really want a userfriendly, unix based os, you'll have to get a mac with osx on
<5> Coma - i've never used either. I am going to be a very generic user at first, just learning the ins and outs of linux. I will progress to coding and network penetration testing. Based on that, do you recommend KDE or GNOME?
<3> I have ubuntu on my system, I try to install with XGL but it seems I can't find any websites that teaches you step by step procedure. plenty of files to tweaks in before the main installation.
<7> t-0p: KDE or GNOMe, are just desktop environment and nothing to do with what you want
<6> t-0p: I prefer kde, because it has many useful tools.
<7> i have gnome, but i run most KDE apps fpr wifi
<4> awtofordir: That'd be because xgl's so new and unstable that, frankly, people haven't gotten around to stabilizing and packaging it yet.
<7> for wifi
<5> Sublade: then i will try out KDE.
<5> ngine: wifi i will be relying on heavily so yeah...
<5> thanks all
<6> Shadur: Got xgl running here on kde on Debian sid, with a little tweaks :)
<0> t-0p: That has little to do with the environment you use, it works both on gnome and kde. What you're rather chosing between is, do you want a heavily configurable environment, with zillions of configpanels and buttons, a bit like os/2, or do you want something simpe with just a few options like macosc, then you pick gnome
<7> KDE, for me is friendlier than gnome in terms of wifi management
<0> t-0p: Or why not try both, then make a decision for yourself
<4> awtofordir: Ubuntu, like debian, requires a certain degree of stability and reliability in a software package before they accept it into the repository. In a nutshell, it has to not have a habit of exploding in the face of a casual unclued user just trying to make it do what it's supposed to do.
<0> ngine: Not exactly the criteria you'd use to pick a desktop environment, imho
<4> Sunblade: Interesting. I may have to give it a look again sometime soon. What video card?
<4> Sunblade: And, most importantly, is it giving better performance than straight-out Xorg?
<7> hmm, he mentioned wifi
<6> Shadur: nvidia geforce 7800 gtx
<6> I find the peformance reasonably ok
<5> coma - good idea. lol. idk i'm a windows power user and i'm very picky about my settings - i want to customize everything. so while i'll try both it sounds like KDE might be a better interface for me to work from
<7> but as i said you can have any desktop envi. and apps from a diffrent
<5> coma - to finish the thought, i imagine i'll be the same way in linux
<0> Heh, kde it is then
<8> hmm, this guys number 9 in this list http://jerkofalltrades.blogspot.com/2005/09/100-things-about-jerk.html "9. I am great in bed. Seriously, I can sleep like you wouldn't friggin believe! Coma like. I was almost buried once!" it really reminds me of the Coma buttload entry wishing sleeping were an olympic sport
<0> Rotflol
<5> lol
<6> Shadur: it still has some cons, one of them is you lose xkb and the nvidia control extension
<0> I'm still in training, you see
<8> of course I had that link in my blog about a year ago, however I was not on irc much at the time I suspect
<3> anyone can suggest a site for linux beginner user like me?
<4> awtofordir: www.google.com
<9> morning Jostein
<3> any pdf file I can download ?
<10> this old geezer is still around? :P
<10> morning all, Liandrin
<0> awtofordir: www.ubuntu.com, try kubuntu (ubuntu with kde instead of gnome)
<8> jostein?
<4> Sunblade: You primarily need nvctl for overclocking the card, right?



<10> sjh: been ages since I can recall seeing you here :P
<0> awtofordir: www.tldp.org is your friend
<10> at least, quite a few months.
<8> jostein, I have been in the channel (and glancing at the window a lot) for the past two months or so
<8> I am sure various among the people here can support that
<6> Shadur: to be honest i've never overclocked my card on linux
<0> sjh: Nope, never seen you before :P
<10> sjh: Im may have seen the nick, but I didnt whois it until now. heh
<4> Me either.
<4> Sunblade: Will openGL games still work?
<9> Jostein, how'd last night go?
<10> Liandrin: good, good.
<10> Liandrin: today however... lets just say the new intranet-beta aint moved to production yet :P
<8> coma, Im a fake, Oh no
<6> Shadur: i tried xmms and the opengl spectrum analyser based on that I think yes
<8> does everyone have a correct address for svana.org now? (.134)
<6> i really like wobble and the cube
<9> sjh, resolves correctly here
<6> and the zooming feature is pretty neat too
<8> they never picked up the change in Jan off 203.20.62.76 to 125.62.94.225 and now have not picked up on the change last night to 125.62.87.134
<10> heh
<0> svana.org. 86400 IN A 125.62.87.134
<10> sjh: If my registrar was like that, I would have serious issues, since Im n a non-static IP :P
<11> Dns resolved svana.org to 125.62.87.134
<8> tld5.ultradns.info still has s.svana.org. [203.20.62.76] [TTL=86400] [AU]
<8> which has not be correct since January
<10> awesome
<8> s/s\./ns\./
<8> hmm that regex breaks the line
<8> ns.svana.org. [203.20.62.76] [TTL=86400] [AU] is what is should say
<5> i'm trying to force KDE to launch as the default window manager. the manual says to type % echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc ... but i get an error: "/root/.xinitrc: Too many argments" - what am i doing wrong (i.e. how do i make kde the default window manager instead of XDM)
<9> hm, I'm not getting responses from four of the six .org nses
<10> t-0p: "how do i make kde the default window manager instead of XDM". that makes no sense. you mean you want kdm instead of dxm?
<10> xdm
<8> moving org to non net netral first so as to get ost organisations of internet
<5> right, my typo...
<10> t-0p: well... that depends on distro, anyway
<10> t-0p: tried googling yet?
<12> moo
<0> NI!
<10> k
<12> Coma: Ni!
<13> Jostein, wtf is that char?
<13> is that ... arabic?
<12> Two square boxes of course
<10> "ni" in japanese
<13> heh, i was gonna say japanese first
<0> Jostein: Probably only for th epeople use utf8
<12> Jostein: Because every font has every single character in it?:)
<10> if you arent using utf8, you are lame :P
<10> http://fruit.je/utf-8
<10> get your irssi iin utf-8 mode already!
<0> besides, it's a hell to make it work properly on the shell and in irssi too
<13> xchat comes with utf8 enabled by default :P
<10> iutf8, aka the only thing sane
<10> a/^i//
<6> s/^a/s/
<12> s/^s/a/
<10> hah
<6> s/Jostein//;
<10> Sunblade: If that worked, irc would be a mighty confusing place. heh
<6> hehe
<13> be better than /ban tho :P
<13> or /gline heh
<14> 17 inches! lol
<10> adikt: /kill is so much more fun, though :P
<13> :P


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