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<0> Use a temp file ;) <1> hrm, i don't want a file to maintain <1> sweet, i'm getting closer. now, how do i go from 0.0.0.0:xxxxx to just xxxxx? <0> Use sed, cut, awk, perl, whatever <0> sed's the easiest I guess <1> whats the easiest way to say that i want char # to char #? <0> Hmm, use cut then <0> Still, I'd simple pipe it through sed <0> s/ple/ply/ <1> alright! now i'm just email myself a port number! now how to add the rest of the url <0> Sounds more and more like one hell of an ugly hack <1> if it was a good hack i probably wouldn't understand it <0> Heh <1> how do you search for an app? <0> rasputin666: "man which" <1> mmmm....manwich
<1> okay. i give up for tonight <1> thanks for all the help <2> hello all <2> hey all:D:d;d;d;d; <3> whats best linux distribution? <0> awtofordir: Totally depends on what you want to do with it and your skill level <4> awtofordir: Whichever one works best for what you need to do and what you're able to administer. <0> Though for general use, ubuntu seems to be the most popular one at, and probably for good reasons <3> It seems the open community still competing, I am a newbie of linux. I dont have problem exploring the system. <5> QUESTION OF PREFERENCE: KDE or GNOME? <0> awtofordir: You could dig around at distrowatch.com a little, read up on several distros and then pick one. Or better yet, if you can afford to download multiple isos, grab a couple, testdrive them all for a few days and _then_ you decide <6> t-0p: fix your caps lock key <0> t-0p: Matter of personal taste and requirements <3> But what make it difficult for me is the installation of some softwares. I can follow directions of some commands, but y not just click and install instead of using those commands. <5> lol <4> awtofordir: Because you'll learn a lot faster if you read the user's guide sometime. <0> awtofordir: Go try Ubuntu then. You'll find that you have to do very little typing and that it's indeed a matter of clicking to install software <0> awtofordir: But the thing is, don't forget that linux is and always will be a more technical os. If you really want a userfriendly, unix based os, you'll have to get a mac with osx on <5> Coma - i've never used either. I am going to be a very generic user at first, just learning the ins and outs of linux. I will progress to coding and network penetration testing. Based on that, do you recommend KDE or GNOME? <3> I have ubuntu on my system, I try to install with XGL but it seems I can't find any websites that teaches you step by step procedure. plenty of files to tweaks in before the main installation. <7> t-0p: KDE or GNOMe, are just desktop environment and nothing to do with what you want <6> t-0p: I prefer kde, because it has many useful tools. <7> i have gnome, but i run most KDE apps fpr wifi <4> awtofordir: That'd be because xgl's so new and unstable that, frankly, people haven't gotten around to stabilizing and packaging it yet. <7> for wifi <5> Sublade: then i will try out KDE. <5> ngine: wifi i will be relying on heavily so yeah... <5> thanks all <6> Shadur: Got xgl running here on kde on Debian sid, with a little tweaks :) <0> t-0p: That has little to do with the environment you use, it works both on gnome and kde. What you're rather chosing between is, do you want a heavily configurable environment, with zillions of configpanels and buttons, a bit like os/2, or do you want something simpe with just a few options like macosc, then you pick gnome <7> KDE, for me is friendlier than gnome in terms of wifi management <0> t-0p: Or why not try both, then make a decision for yourself <4> awtofordir: Ubuntu, like debian, requires a certain degree of stability and reliability in a software package before they accept it into the repository. In a nutshell, it has to not have a habit of exploding in the face of a casual unclued user just trying to make it do what it's supposed to do. <0> ngine: Not exactly the criteria you'd use to pick a desktop environment, imho <4> Sunblade: Interesting. I may have to give it a look again sometime soon. What video card? <4> Sunblade: And, most importantly, is it giving better performance than straight-out Xorg? <7> hmm, he mentioned wifi <6> Shadur: nvidia geforce 7800 gtx <6> I find the peformance reasonably ok <5> coma - good idea. lol. idk i'm a windows power user and i'm very picky about my settings - i want to customize everything. so while i'll try both it sounds like KDE might be a better interface for me to work from <7> but as i said you can have any desktop envi. and apps from a diffrent <5> coma - to finish the thought, i imagine i'll be the same way in linux <0> Heh, kde it is then <8> hmm, this guys number 9 in this list http://jerkofalltrades.blogspot.com/2005/09/100-things-about-jerk.html "9. I am great in bed. Seriously, I can sleep like you wouldn't friggin believe! Coma like. I was almost buried once!" it really reminds me of the Coma buttload entry wishing sleeping were an olympic sport <0> Rotflol <5> lol <6> Shadur: it still has some cons, one of them is you lose xkb and the nvidia control extension <0> I'm still in training, you see <8> of course I had that link in my blog about a year ago, however I was not on irc much at the time I suspect <3> anyone can suggest a site for linux beginner user like me? <4> awtofordir: www.google.com <9> morning Jostein <3> any pdf file I can download ? <10> this old geezer is still around? :P <10> morning all, Liandrin <0> awtofordir: www.ubuntu.com, try kubuntu (ubuntu with kde instead of gnome) <8> jostein? <4> Sunblade: You primarily need nvctl for overclocking the card, right?
<10> sjh: been ages since I can recall seeing you here :P <0> awtofordir: www.tldp.org is your friend <10> at least, quite a few months. <8> jostein, I have been in the channel (and glancing at the window a lot) for the past two months or so <8> I am sure various among the people here can support that <6> Shadur: to be honest i've never overclocked my card on linux <0> sjh: Nope, never seen you before :P <10> sjh: Im may have seen the nick, but I didnt whois it until now. heh <4> Me either. <4> Sunblade: Will openGL games still work? <9> Jostein, how'd last night go? <10> Liandrin: good, good. <10> Liandrin: today however... lets just say the new intranet-beta aint moved to production yet :P <8> coma, Im a fake, Oh no <6> Shadur: i tried xmms and the opengl spectrum analyser based on that I think yes <8> does everyone have a correct address for svana.org now? (.134) <6> i really like wobble and the cube <9> sjh, resolves correctly here <6> and the zooming feature is pretty neat too <8> they never picked up the change in Jan off 203.20.62.76 to 125.62.94.225 and now have not picked up on the change last night to 125.62.87.134 <10> heh <0> svana.org. 86400 IN A 125.62.87.134 <10> sjh: If my registrar was like that, I would have serious issues, since Im n a non-static IP :P <11> Dns resolved svana.org to 125.62.87.134 <8> tld5.ultradns.info still has s.svana.org. [203.20.62.76] [TTL=86400] [AU] <8> which has not be correct since January <10> awesome <8> s/s\./ns\./ <8> hmm that regex breaks the line <8> ns.svana.org. [203.20.62.76] [TTL=86400] [AU] is what is should say <5> i'm trying to force KDE to launch as the default window manager. the manual says to type % echo "exec startkde" > ~/.xinitrc ... but i get an error: "/root/.xinitrc: Too many argments" - what am i doing wrong (i.e. how do i make kde the default window manager instead of XDM) <9> hm, I'm not getting responses from four of the six .org nses <10> t-0p: "how do i make kde the default window manager instead of XDM". that makes no sense. you mean you want kdm instead of dxm? <10> xdm <8> moving org to non net netral first so as to get ost organisations of internet <5> right, my typo... <10> t-0p: well... that depends on distro, anyway <10> t-0p: tried googling yet? <12> moo <0> NI! <10> k <12> Coma: Ni! <13> Jostein, wtf is that char? <13> is that ... arabic? <12> Two square boxes of course <10> "ni" in japanese <13> heh, i was gonna say japanese first <0> Jostein: Probably only for th epeople use utf8 <12> Jostein: Because every font has every single character in it?:) <10> if you arent using utf8, you are lame :P <10> http://fruit.je/utf-8 <10> get your irssi iin utf-8 mode already! <0> besides, it's a hell to make it work properly on the shell and in irssi too <13> xchat comes with utf8 enabled by default :P <10> iutf8, aka the only thing sane <10> a/^i// <6> s/^a/s/ <12> s/^s/a/ <10> hah <6> s/Jostein//; <10> Sunblade: If that worked, irc would be a mighty confusing place. heh <6> hehe <13> be better than /ban tho :P <13> or /gline heh <14> 17 inches! lol <10> adikt: /kill is so much more fun, though :P <13> :P
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