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<0> If I ping from $host_at_work to $host_at_home I see the ESP traffic on $ppp0_at_home but I see an ICMP host unreachable packet right after that. This, is annoying.
<1> Jostein: what did you read about romania today?
<1> i saw this ubah interesting article today
<2> Tron: freeswan has its issues sometimes.
<2> especially with network routing
<0> Revenger: It's a ****ing PITA.
<1> about the 11th of September plane crashes
<2> just go openswan <-> openswan
<2> saves you lots of headache
<1> has any of you read those? about planes containing napalm? and stuff like that
<0> Revenger: Switching to openswan at the company firewall is... not an option right now :)
<2> not switching
<2> as it can run on $anyport, just run both :P
<0> Revenger: $company_firewall needs updating from freeswan to openswan anyways. When we move premises later this year we'll update it.
<2> Tron: then install it now for a testrun. :>
<2> there is always a reason *G*
<0> Revenger: I'm loathe to try to apt-get nistall openswan on the debian firewall right now, as it'll try very hard to remove the older freeswan installation :)
<1> guys, do you know any webinar like application in which for example i can share my desktop in real-time to 10 different users
<2> Tron: use the source, luke.
<3> all napalm is, is gelified gasoline which is done via styrofoam, why would you need to use napalm in a plane that's filled with jet fuel that's going to crash into a building, the fuel isn't going to go anywhere else.
<1> so that they see what im doing, also i can at any time connect to any of their desktops
<0> Revenger: Debian + non-mamaged source == evil.
<0> managed even.
<1> safemode: they are stating that the fuel burns in a different color
<1> than the planes
<3> yea but color is distorted in New york smog
<2> Tron: but but.. at least you know apt-get will leave your backup connection alone. in case freeswan crashes.
<1> and has a lot of things there, like the buildings shouldnt have collapsed
<0> Revenger: I refuse to touch it roght now :P
<1> safemode: true, but not in the closeups footage it isnt
<2> Tron: coward.
<2> give me ssh access and i do it for you :P
<4>freeswan
<0> erNo. :P
<3> hrm.. it's a mute point anyway. whether or not they magically got lots and lots of napalm on board a commercial liner doesn't matter.
<0> moot
<3> it's not like any other building will survive if a future plane crashes into a building but doesn't have napalm on board
<5> moot point
<5> not mute point
<5> lol
<1> safemode: they were stating several things that "didnt match"
<1> im sorry that the file is in .ro
<3> i'm stating that it doesn't matter. what's to be gained by finding out it had napalm on board?
<1> but im sure it was just translated (i can see from the poor translation)
<1> safemode: the simplest thing: how the hell did the terrorist had napalm "mounted" on the planes?
<1> it was put there before
<3> is .ro making it out to be some US conspiracy to blow up it's own building to give it an excuse to attack various mid-east countries?
<1> also, why would a civilian plane HAVE that?
<3> because if so, i have some hollow earth websites and flat earth ones that are interesting too. and Electric universe ****
<1> safemode: dude, i just read it myself, it was translated from a file going everywhere on the internet
<1> that's why i asked
<3> yea well, anything coming out of .ro is spam. they also distribute secret money makers about the nigeria millions and how my paypal account is constantly being modified
<6> tavi-san: which file?
<6> tavi-san: any link?
<1> safemode: thanks for making fun of me
<3> no problem
<1> also, what im saying here is also spam right?
<7> the nigerian millions is often UK or US millions these days
<7> maybe we should just nuke nigeria
<2> http://www.deutschlandpc.de/html/produkte.html
<3> obviously nigeria is the source of the problems
<2> any thoughts ?
<7> Revenger: looks nice
<0> Without wishing to fan the flames, as-it-were-and -no-pun-or-offense-intended-etc , it seems quite obvious that the attack was either allowed by the USA.gov or planned by it, precisely in order to cause Fear, with the intention of achieveing an Orwellian-type of state control. That's my personal opinion. Your mileage may vary, etc.
<3> tavi-san: they're duping you. do you really think .ro is going to make such a breakthrough discovery... while the rest of the world (who also hates the US) hasn't? no.
<2> i will know if it not only looks, but IS nice soon.
<3> .ro should just market their dracula **** and shut up. everything else they do is just incredibly annoying and lame
<1> safemode: really? what about the 897987987 .ro engineers that get hired every year by the huge companies?
<7> and keep sending us the good pr0n
<1> you stating that every .ro is and idiot?
<7> they have some cute women
<7> all of whom are whore of pr0n actresses
<1> s/and/an
<0> smsie: Who are vampires ;)
<2> no. they get hired cause they are cheap.
<7> some of the whores are vampires, true
<0> smsie: Hell I'd turn Vampire myself! w00t!
<5> i have an idea
<0> Sarah-: Did it hurt? :P
<5> why doesnt everyone talk in the other linux, because i pay more attention to that one
<0> Sarah-: Haha
<7> Tron: nah, you like the oriental look. You're as bad as russ at times :)
<5> i win
<2> tavi-san: no engineer here would work for like 1000$ a month.
<0> smsie: heh no-one can be as bad as Russ at any time :P
<7> I win
<7> Tron: hehe
<1> Revenger: it's not only cause they are cheap
<2> Tron: your oppinion on that pc ? :P
<1> it's cause they work more than the average inhabitant of a country
<7> Revenger: it's definitely a PC.
<0> Revenger: I dislike the cheap-silver-plastic look
<2> 999 Euro-dollar.
<2> i can ***ure you the case is alu :P
<5> do you guys love eurovision
<5> i cant believe it exists, im mean you know its terrible right
<0> Revenger: Don't like it. :P
<7> Sarah-: of course
<5> its on tv here as a comedy, they commentate it and make fun
<0> Sarah-: Yes. We know it's terrible. But it's OURS. :P
<7> Sarah-: it's morbidity...and it's funny
<5> i cant believe they get such big crowds attending
<0> Anyone who takes Eurovision seriously is insane anyways :P
<0> Sarah-: it's a great excuse for a luahg, and to get pissed.
<0> laugh even. Argh!
<1> have you guys heard about the .ro eurovision trial competition
<5> lol
<7> Sarah-: nobody takes it seriously
<1> in which they decided who was going to participate?
<0> tavi-san: Does it involve lots of hot .ro chicks?
<1> like 95% of the singers in here when they sang, they did it so bad, that the children in the audience started crying
<7> so a bit like pop idol then
<5> lol
<1> their live singing was ****ING different from the song recorded
<1> and "touched" by the computer
<7> tavi-san: that's common
<7> milli vanilli
<1> and the only one who had a good voice won, and some 2 twins chicks band sued the television cause they thought the TV station didnt want them to win
<1> but they SANG SO ****ING BAD AND ANNOYING
<1> anyways, good 5 days headlines in the papers ;)
<7> the ones who sued...where they the cheeky gorls?
<7> were they from .ro?
<1> no "indiggo"
<1> yeah cheeky girls are .ro
<8> tavi-san: guess one time
<7> if that's the general quality of .ro singing, I can see the problem
<1> anyways the girls said that they cant NOT WIN cause their song was created by the ex modern talking dieteh bohlen
<1> smsie: unfortunately it is
<1> from 40k songs, i dont have any .ro one in my playlist
<1> like 15% of the singers actually sing in their concerts live
<1> so imagine that...
<7> tavi-san: that's true everywhere
<1> and yes smsie, over 80% of the girl bands are made of <insert number here> of blonde/brunette/red haired chicks with nothing to do with music
<7> tavi-san: that's true everywhere as well
<1> but still...
<1> other all hawt chicks bands at least sound ok when they sing live
<1> and not make young children cry@!@!
<7> the boy bands are usually constructed to appeal directly to the gay market...because that market has a lot more spending power than the 12 year old girls
<1> haha i guess you're right
<1> btw, any idea about a free or cheap application that is webinar like and for example i can let 10 connections to 10 people to see my desktop and what i do in it?
<8> tavi-san: anyway.. it was about hacking/cracking and rising computer crime
<1> Jostein: what did they say? URL?
<8> tavi-san: norwegian site.
<1> oh, i cant read that :)
<7> tavi-san: vnc
<1> smsie: tried it, i cant do it viceversa, need like a combination of vnc and a client-server application
<1> so that at any time i can connect to any of their machines and show them
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