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<0> well my first search seems to indicate that no one is able to get pnpdump to work on fc3
<0> smsie, well unless there is a command for that I don't htink that will help me at the moment :(
<1> its the size of a truck, but still a beautiful modem :)
<2> Viking667: what did I ever do bad to YOU!
<1> Viking667: nah, he would just toggle stuff in on the front panel - you can't hold a good geek down :)
<2> DaveHowe: I still have the 56k external I bought when I first came to the UK. I paid decent money for that...nevr let me down
<3> considering smsie doesn't really like Linux anyhow...
<2> Viking667: **** no. Linux ****s.
<2> they ALL ****
<3> smsie: so design and implement one that DOESN'T!
<2> Viking667: umm, "No"
<3> then stop bitchin'
<2> Viking667: umm, "No"
<3> bleah
<4> Weekend!
<5> In two more hours. =/
<6> TGIF
<4> TING
<4> Heh
<3> TGIST
<4> smsie: Greetings
<2> heya Tron
<4> smsie: 'sup?
<5> I'm getting a full 4.5Mbps off my usenet server today. w00t
<3> woo hoo.
<2> Tron: not a lot
<2> Tron: had a ****ty week of surp***ing ****ness
<7> one of the two disks in my raid1 array is down, and all the documentation i read says to use "ckraid" to fix this, however, 'man ckraid' says that the program is obsolete, and its function was to check raid arrays for consistensy but but now this function is performed by the kernel
<4> smsie: Oh. ****ty.
<4> Muir: Have you tried just using ckraid?
<8> http://www.flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=3589269&size=o
<7> well it seems that ckraid is invoked by doing a "ckraid /etc/raid1.conf", the trouble is i dont have a /etc/raid1.conf (it seems like its totalyl obsolete)
<4> TenBaseT: Heh
<8> Muir: I would propose that you need to down the failed array element and bring it back up again
<7> in fact i dont ahve the program anyway i just checked
<8> Muir: if it's a kernel function than the rebuild will happen automagically
<7> usualy the rebuild odes happen automatically on other machines, but thsi time it isnt!
<8> Muir: that is, if your hardware supports hotplug.
<4> Muir: Is the RAID configured from your SCSI card's BIOS or did you configure it from Linux?
<4> fredk_: Greets
<7> but yet, the partition whcih is a raid element is sdb3 yet sdb2 works fine so i'm ***uming that there is not a hardware problem
<9> Tron, greets :)
<6> 'lo fredk
<7> Tron: its a software RAID confgured from within linux using the /etc/raidtab file
<4> Did he answer my question? I don't think he did.
<9> Tamahome_, 'lo :)
<7> its raid1
<4> AH
<4> Muir: Welp, can't help you there, because I've never used software raid.
<4> We've only got hardware raid at work.
<4> None of this fancy fallootin' software raid stuff.
<7> software raid is awesome
<4> *skepticism*
<7> you can raid1 like a USB disk and a floppy if you wanted, its really flexible ;)
<10> Muir: it's also a right PITA if you need to swap a disk
<8> spftware raid os ****ing silly.
<8> I hate softraid.
<10> softraid has blown up on me a number of times
<4> What you really need is hardware raid + hotplug.
<8> software raid-5 is downright dangerous
<8> and software mirroring is largely useless on x86
<7> ahah
<7> so raid1 is useless?
<6> what's a good RAID card nowadays?
<8> Tron: 3ware for ide
<4> s/Tron/Tamahome_/
<8> Muir: yeah, raid1 software mirrors are useless.
<7> why is that
<8> because they dont ever do what yours is DOING RIGHT NOW.
<7> if a disk fails you still have your data i'd say its pretty useful
<11> ofcourse raid1 mirrors aren't useless. If used right.
<8> er
<4> Muir: Well put it this way, YOU'RE here bleating for help about your software RAID that went BOOM...
<8> raid hardware mirrors dont ever do what yours is doing.
<8> they work.
<9> TenBaseT, bull**** ;)
<9> TenBaseT, they don't do it as *often*
<4> TenBaseT: There are cirumstances where hardware raid would fail too ;)
<8> yeah circumstances like 'bad hardware'
<11> the only problem with software is IMO Linux :P
<4> TenBaseT: Like in a fire, where ALL the disks in your RAID array melt... for example :P
<8> not 'because the software felt like taking a ****'
<8> hahaha
<7> I have 4 sfotware raids and ive never had a problem till now and the only reason it isnt fixed yet is becuase I dont know whats wrong with it
<9> TenBaseT, i've seen 3ware software take a ****
<9> it happens :)
<7> hardware raid costs $$$ and besides there are many different hardware raids so to say trhey are all good is rediculous
<4> Tsk.
<8> as a cl***, hardware raid is faster and more reliable than software raid.
<7> if ther are problems with software raid the kernel developeres will improve it, and how do yuo know my disk hasnt gone bad?
<8> I dont. thats why I told you to hotplug it and let it rebuild.
<12> as an operating system, hardware raid on linux ****s
<6> does softraid even support hotplug?
<4> Muir: You obvioudly have never had the SHEER JOY of seeing an amber light on a single disk go on, in a RAID5 array, remove that disk, shove in another on, and watch as the array rebuilds itself, meanwhile the server using the array shrugs it's shoulders and gets on with the job. :)
<13> Shadur: )
<12> software raid does as good or better on linux than software, BSD's are where hardware raid works good...software lags behind
<13> como estas.
<7> ha well taht would be pretty cool
<6> Tron: I always hated that... I remember going home one night with a horrible headache because I had to stay in the same room with an HP server rebuilding it's RAID5 and it was beeping the whole way through.
<8> I've pulled drives out of running production RAID-5 arrays just to hand the bean-counter the disk and tell him that he's holding the reason why we paid the money for it.
<4> Tamahome_: **** that! I'd have gone home, came in the next working day and said "Ah yes, good little raid box *pat* *pat" and then made myself a coffee.
<12> I would have much better joy out of the drives not failing for years at a time.
<4> TenBaseT++
<8> safemode: put enough disks in a room and they go bad weekly
<4> safemode: You must live a joyless life then because where disks are concerend, **** happens.
<6> Tron: Hindsight being 20/20, I should have.
<12> keep them cool.. they usually wont go bad
<4> Tamahome_: WHy even bother watch a raid5 array rebuild itself? Just piss off and let it do it's job, and if THAT disk is ****, use another one instead.
<8> haha I remember once I opened up a running compaq that was rebuilding the array just to stick a wad of chewing gum over the RAID piezo speaker to shut it up
<14> TenBaseT: my standard reply is "because this company has never had a disk related system failure, despite several individual disk failures in the history of the company"
<4> TenBaseT: Haha!
<8> safemode: oh, well ****. WHY DIDNT WE THINK OF THAT\
<6> Tron: I wasn't watching it, my workstation was nearby
<7> i just like the idea of software raid becuase once you learn it its independent of hardware variations whereas with a BIOS hardware raid you're going to have to learn the details of each new raid device you buy
<4> Newsflash: Disks **** up even when they're frosty too!
<8> safemode: I'll just go turn the thermostat on my lieberts down because apparently 70f isnt cold enough to keep disks running forever.
<7> plus you have control of it from within your OS
<15> Could someone help with an Apache question: I am using dyndns.org for my dynamic ip, and I need to change the port that Apache listen on. I entered "Listen 8008" in my /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf file, but now I can't start Apache. I get this error. (13) Permission denied: make_sock: Could not bind to address [::]:8008 No listening sockets available, shutting down.
<4> There's any number of reasons why a disk would **** up. Being too toasty is merely one of them.
<8> safemode: sometimes your lack of experience is painfully funny. Sometimes it's just painful. this is a case of the latter.
<14> TenBaseT: I just got out of another meeting to discuss the addition of another 20 tons of Liebert AC to our room :)
<4> TenBaseT: You could, for example, be the proud owner of The Friday Afternoon batch of scsi disks...
<8> hahahah yeah
<4> You know the ones I speak of...
<8> Lot 25, Batch 4, production time 1530 Friday
<4> Yep.
<4> Them's the ones.
<15> I checked my /etc/services file and it had httpd-alt 8008 as an entry I figured that's a alternate http prot
<15> port
<8> aka the "**** this lets go get a pint" batch
<4> Bingo.
<11> Newbee9: you can pick any port you'd like, if you do it right.
<11> Newbee9: 8008 is not an "alternative http port"
<6> ohhhh... as per that whole "never buy a car that was manufactured on a Friday"
<4> Tamahome_: Bingo #2
<15> Lion-0> So was that a bad choice of a port: I was going to use 1020
<8> Having disks that never fail in operation just means you're going to lose that many more the next time they all spin down
<4> Hey Mikey, I think he's gettin' the idea :P
<10> I know of at least one occasion where a manufacturer has swapped out all the disks in a system after a certain number of failures, presuming them to be friday-afternoon disks.
<11> Newbee9: in this case I'd advice you to consult the Apache docs (www.apache.org/docs/). You can't use Listen on its own.
<4> TenBaseT: *click* *wait* "Uh, hmm, 3 out of 5 disks don;t seem to have spun up"...
<14> TenBaseT: that is something I hate.
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