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<0> Lion-O: get ready, weekend is near
<1> tavi-san: hmm ;) already enjoying the weekend. However, I have some maintenance to perform on my box later on 8)
<0> Lion-O: lucky...
<0> im still @ work at 9:15 pm
<0> windows is win
<2> :-P I've got the manual, I'm RTF'ing it, I swear.
<0> CeruleanD: it's better to gtfw ;)
<0> CeruleanD: gtfw = google the ****ing words
<0> yoz: wb :P
<0> CeruleanD: welcome to undyingnet
<2> yuop
<2> yup
<3> ooh, rumors on the internets about BSG getting cancelled after this season
<2> I'm kinda surprised it's not worse, to be honest.
<2> I've been on Undernet for some... hmm... 10 years or so, I think, give or take, and I do remember a time when it was much worse.
<4> it's been *** for quite some years now.
<0> hi Sean
<4> tavi-san
<0> how you doing?
<5> I have an old internal serial modem I am trying to get working on federa core 3, does anyone have any idea how to do this?
<2> Set the house on fire, collect insurance, get high-speed at the hotel they set you up at.
<2> (make sure you get the PC out of the house first)
<2> Other than that, I got nothin', sorry.
<2> Anyone have any thoughts on Linspire's Click'n'Run? Was just reading the Slashdot article about it and Ubuntu. What's the general consensus of the #linux gurus?
<2> I think I'd pay $20/yr for something like that for my SuSE system.
<4> 'lo Ed
<6> wheeee
<1> CeruleanD: well, linspire is **** IMO. Their click'n'run is already available on SuSE.
<6> hahahahahah
<6> http://www.riemurasia.net/jylppy/albumit/13996/saddam.gif
<1> then again, I dislike linspire
<1> then again, I think the whole cnr idea stinks ;)
<7> who'd pay $20 to save themselves from having to type a short command?
<7> the terminally lazy I guess
<8> 'llo all.
<1> smsie: there's that. And whats even worse is that these services stop after that. So no upgrades either.
<1> yo Viking667
<1> fun. it seems I trashed my vmware vm ;)
<8> ewww. I remember trashing a windows install by pointing my trial VMWare VM at it.
<1> well, thats where snapshots come in
<9> I remember trashing a windows install by dropped the laptop off my roof.
<9> /s/dropped/dropping
<4> that'd trash any OS :P
<4> goofus
<9> I was up there looking for wifi points. oops.
<4> oops indeed
<1> vaporwOS would have survived though
<4> I love that kick line, LOL
<1> hehe.. and the fun part is that it is a true dict.org entry 8)
<7> changeling seems out of place...but I guess I've seen too much DS9
<1> smsie: "{Chief of security}, {halt-wit}, ..." doesn't really cut it either ;-)
<7> hehe
<5> how can I tell if the device on tty0 is really my old serial modem? I am trying minicom but cannot get anything, but I don't know if this is a baud rate issue or something else
<10> quantum4: open a session to the modem directly and do an "ATZ <cr>"
<10> it should return an OK if the modem is functional
<5> DaveHowe, do you mean something like echo "ATZ" >/dev/ttyS0
<10> quantum4: no, or you won't see the reply. use something like minicom or kermit but just connect direct to the modem
<5> DaveHowe, well if I open minicom how do I connect directly to it? I selected ttyS0 as the serial port, but I am not sure if that means what I type is acutally sent to the modem
<10> should do, unless you use -d to specify a autodial number
<5> ok well in that case I does respond. is this a baud rate issue or does it mean it is some other serial device
<5> so it does not respond
<10> could be either. try changing the baud rate and stop bits to likely settings
<6> ooer
<10> ctrl-A O should get you to the options page
<6> sed -r
<10> or try other ttS devices if you have them obviously. but that's the easiest way to test a modem.
<5> ok I am trying all baud rates, but I don't think that will do anything
<10> well, the usual defaults are - 19200, D8, PN, S1, H
<5> ok well I tried all baud rates 9600 and above, no luck
<10> its more likely to be the data/parity/stop settings
<8> hrm. Tried com4 ?
<8> err, ttyS3
<5> /dev/ttyS0, UART: 16550A, Port: 0x03f8, IRQ: 4
<5> Daakman, I don't get anything in the terminal though, no noise or anything
<10> quantum4: is this an internal modem or a external?
<5> internal modem
<10> how many external ports do you have?
<5> looks like 2
<10> then those will be ttyS0 and S1
<10> try S2 or S3
<10> is it a true modem or a winmodem?
<10> and have you confirmed you have a driver for it?
<8> DaveHowe: he *thinks* it's a USR
<11> hello
<12> Viking667: Ahh. the very man.
<5> it is a us robotics 28.8 fax/voice modem and it is not a winmodem
<8> oh. What does lspci show?
<8> hi whyzzyrd
<10> quantum4: there are scanning tools for pci modems on the linmodem website - you might want to try those
<11> i've got an ugly error with iptables when i try to start it it says Setting chains to policy ACCEPT: filter [ OK ]
<11> Unloading iptables modules: [ OK ]
<11> Applying iptables firewall rules: iptables-restore v1.2.11: no command specified
<11> Error occurred at line: 29
<11> Try `iptables-restore -h' or 'iptables-restore --help' for more information.
<5> DaveHowe, it is a serial modem though
<10> http://linmodems.org/
<10> quantum4: ALL modems are serial modems
<10> you don't get parallel ones :)
<5> sorry I mean it is an ISA modem
<10> probably a true modem then - USR didn't make any winmodems in ISA format
<13> DaveHowe: and wrong.
<13> i've seen Zyxel ones with parport
<10> Revenger: only zyxel I have seen weren't modems, but telephone interfaces for things like asterisk
<5> I am thinking I may need to configure the serial port manually then, wonder if there is any tool that could do that
<10> Revenger: but willing to take your word for it :)
<3> I had a zyxel 14.4 back in the day
<13> :>
<3> it was amazing.
<3> USR made a LOT of ISA winmodems
<5> yup the good old days
<13> i still have one somewhere in a box in the garage
<3> There's really no reason to bother making hardware modems anymore
<3> not when lucent cranks out 56K windmodems for under a buck per unit
<10> TenBaseT: never seen one of those - not disputing it, but all the usr isa cards I had were all true modems, with onboard logic
<8> quantum4: ohh. What does "pnpdump" show?
<13> TenBaseT: the first thing i done when i got my pre-build box. removing the modem.
<3> DaveHowe: I've seen lots of isa winmodems and lots of PCI realmodems
<8> you may need to install isapnp to see it
<7> TenBaseT: with ****ty drivers, yes. Most of them *eat* CPU
<3> Revenger: I used to do that but these days I leave it hooked up for callerid.
<10> TenBaseT: so have I - just not a us robotics winmodem in ISA. they were one of the few I used to buy for that reason
<3> smsie: yeah they eat CPU, but they dont eat a lot
<13> TenBaseT: my system is connected via usb
<7> TenBaseT: why waste it? It's not expensive to have a real modem
<3> yeah, I've seen lots of USB winmodems.
<5> hmm don't have pnpdump, yum can't find it either, let me go try and track it down
<3> smsie: it's more than an order of magnitude difference.
<13> TenBaseT: nono. ISDN.
<3> oh...
<10> would pnpdump show isa devices?
<7> TenBaseT: hardware modems aren't *that* expensive
<7> DaveHowe: yes
<8> yes
<13> and USB-Capi
<3> smsie: they're about $70 here. because no one makes them anymore
<10> shows you how long its been since I saw a ISA machine :)
<7> TenBaseT: I can get one for about here. A winmodem is like
<7> I can get a REALLY nasty winmodem cheaper, but it won't work very well
<13> DaveHowe: i still have an EISA Compaq in use :P
<3> finding any hardware modems is an excerise in frustration but when you do find them here they are badly overpriced.
<4> EISA... damn.
<10> I have a beautiful usr voicemodem external here against future need :)
<5> well my first search seems to indicate that no one is able to get pnpdump to work on fc3
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