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<0> Ka-bar: and there are directory servers for Linux (in different stages of completeness)
<1> we use webex here now
<2> i did extract the kernel, and when i type "make config" it says "/home/cem/Desktop/linux-2.6.15.5.tar.bz2.sign"
<1> but thats changing because webex wont give us the information ***urance agreements we require
<2> sorry
<2> it says
<2> make: *** No rule to make target `config'. Stop.
<3> cem: do us all a favour and stop with what you're doing right now
<4> time for AMES
<5> cem, did you read the documentation?
<6> Ka-bar: netmeeting isn't ms crap - its h323 standards compatable crap :)
<2> yes
<0> Ka-bar: I have used netmeeting to call my asterisk box and queue my self in to the calling queue...
<7> Jesus...vlc just refuses to compile on my Ubuntu machine
<5> Hrrrmmmm
<1> I dont mind netmeeting, it's a pretty fullfeatured and well-behaved H.323 client
<1> it has some odd default codecs but those are easily installed in linux
<8> reality: no vlc binaries?
<9> bye
<7> Jostein: None with mp3lame support precompiled in on ubuntu...they're all about that restricted format bull****
<8> reality: ****s
<7> Oh yeah
<8> well.. time to spend the weekend compiling then :P
<7> **** won't compile...that's the problem
<8> If **** "wont compile" there's usually issues to be resolved
<8> finding them can be a tedious task of fun :P
<7> Yeah, nasty issues with libavcodec
<10> hi again
<7> I'm having to switch back and forth between gcc-3.2 and gcc-4
<8> reality: WTH do you use GCC 4 anyway?
<8> is that anywhere near stable?
<11> pi-wireless:~ pi$ gcc -v
<7> Jostein: Because it's the only way I can get vlc to compile
<11> gcc version 4.0.0 20041026 (Apple Computer, Inc. build 4061)
<11> I would suppose it is :)
<7> It errors out with 3.2
<8> Ive heard nasty stuff about it. Thats why Im asking :P
<7> Errors out with 3.3 and 3.4 as well
<11> jostein: well every new point release of gcc has its initial problems, but gcc4 has been out for a while now.
<8> exel: so.... If I am to compile a new kernel... Doing it with gcc4 is -safe- now?
<12> go find out.
<11> jostein: kernel has always been a special case, but I believe it is gcc4-proof these days.
<8> Not until I get DSL
<8> Im going to try out lots of stuff on my new firewall box
<11> jostein: most of the reasons to get gcc4 relate more to the c++ runtime than the C language, though.
<12> sounds like that firewall will be the pinnacle of security.
<11> jostein: at least that's my impression
<12> lets try lots of utter crap on the most important machine! yay! :)
<1> hahahah this guy I work with, works for a contacting company
<11> d-side: well at least if you crash it your network will be secure ;)
<1> his contracting company is all pissed off at him because some retards at his shop rebooted some servers that never came back up last night, and he refused to go in at 11:30
<8> D-side: I dont need a pinnacle of security for my HOMEmachine
<8> D-side: it'll be a DMZ firewall, and Ill have secondary firewalls on my client machines anyway
<1> hahahahah oh this is even better "The servers were sitting at 'Press <F1> to continue" when they came in in the morning"
<8> D-side: and did I mention I said "I'll try stuff out"? :P
<3> TenBaseT: nice
<6> LOL! had forgotten this one
<11> tenbaset: one would wonder why that wasn't fixed in the BIOS on install ;)
<6> if ECC ever comes back point him at this FAQ:
<6> http://www.rinkworks.com/dialect/dialectp.cgi?dialect=hckr&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffaq.linuxops.net
<1> exel: thats my buddy's point exactly.
<8> D-side: how the hell am I going to secure a box without fooling around, getting familiar with stuff?
<8> TenBaseT: heh
<1> hahahaha god he's steamed on the phone
<1> "Dont you ****ing dare ask a guy with 2 kids to drive an hour into work at 11:30pm with no warning to fix someone elses ****up, and then get mad when he SURPRISE SURPRISE refuses"
<6> exel: it might not be fixable - if its (for example) a "no floppy drive found" problem, the bios has no ignore setting, and local rules forbid having floppy drives on the servers
<11> if he didn't want to go in and fix it, why did he field the call anyway?
<1> he didnt know who it was calling, he was going to scream at them for calling so late
<1> he's not an on-call guy
<13> TenBaseT: if they've no remote console access to the machines, then they're ****tards anyway.
<1> whyzzyrd: apparently the kvm plug was wonky or something
<13> TenBaseT: on all of them?
<13> TenBaseT: http://www.kvmviaip.com/
<1> No, on the 2 (mail) servers that didnt come up
<1> apparently they could SEE the servers saying "press F1 to continue" but couldnt press F1
<11> 10BT: *cringe*
<13> TenBaseT: I'm not suprised that the guy told them where to get to.
<1> haha yeah it's a ****y deal to be sure.
<1> No, I can understand the guy's POV completely.
<13> TenBaseT: I don't understand why the contracting company are pissed at him but.
<11> whyzzyrd: because he's "not a team player" of course ;)
<6> exel: or because they were out a fat commission because he wouldn't do out of hours work for free?
<11> dave: I though that was implied with "not a team player"
<11> you need to work on your suitspeak ;)
<14> So much for getting to stare at IRC all day long
<14> getting tapped to help someone with a Sigtran install
<6> exel: that would imply he was getting something out of it. although "not a loyal employee" would have covered it
<6> This looks good for a giggle --> http://www.ibjhb.com/blog/index.cfm/2006/3/2/GoogleFindsXPKey
<15> er
<15> climb even.
<5> eek
<5> WTF are you doing?!?!
<5> :)
<6> yea gods! --> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/newsnight/4758636.stm
<6> "Now we've got that out the way, let us ask you a question. Why is it that every time the media starts to talk about the internet they feel compelled to bang on about paedophiles and terrorists and generally come over like a cross between Joe McCarthy and the Childcatcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang?
<6> Well here's one answer - it sells copy. Another answer is that we're totally scared of new media, because new media is railways and we're canals, and you all just know how that's going to end."
<16> Well that's pretty frank, but I'm reading the rest of what he has to say...
<8> Ka-bar: the decease is spreading?
<16> Jostein: decease? :P
<17> The first boot Computer Why linux dont connect to lan ?
<8> Tron: the "WTH are you doing?!?!" decease
<5> somchai, huh?
<16> Jostein: Ah you mean disease :)
<8> somchai: that barely makes sense. but contains no useful info we can use to help you
<17> yes I open server every time I must restart again linux server to connect to Lan
<18> re
<16> *blink*
<16> Uncouth: re
<18> someone stole my d^Hnick again
<16> somchai: You must be from Thailand, i'd imagine. Unfortuantely for you, we cannot understand your version of English.
<5> somchai, while your words appear to be English, your sentence structure appears to be from Uranus.
<16> Ka-bar: He's talking out of his arse? :)
<8> somchai: try to seek help somewhere where people speak your native language
<8> we dont understand you
<18> he spik not good the language english?
<8> < somchai> yes I open server every time I must restart again linux server to connect to Lan
<6> when two thousand years old are you, speak strangely too will you!
<19> Are there any Linux-versions that will run on a Pentium 1, 66 mhz?
<18> DaveHowe: no, that's yoda-speak, and much esteemed by star-wars weenies
<8> Uncouth: I dont know what you make of that :P
<6> Tron: crux of his statement you have perceived, yes
<16> ironDuke: Try Damn Small Linux
<8> that has no potential for abuse :P
<18> any distro should run on a PI
<20> /rEmOtEOfF
<18> as long as you have a reasonable amount of RAM
<19> What about ubuntu tron ?
<16> Uncouth: Some distros install by default loads of ****e which will slow that P1 66Mhz to a complete crawl :)
<16> ironDuke: Sure, you can, but expect a very sllloooowwwwww machine.
<18> Tron: true, but technically most will run
<16> Uncouth: Technically, yes.
<19> Tron: Ok...
<16> Uncouth: In reality, some choices will be better than others :)
<18> Tron: e.g. slackware 3.0? :)
<16> Uncouth: Haha
<18> and i tell you, imap ****s!
<16> LIES
<18> well, setting it up ****s
<3> imap is quite nice
<16> Imap does not ****!
<16> IMAP > POP
<16> +3
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