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<0> wonder if that works for email and web pages too ?
<1> Or the whole DCC 0 0 0 0 0 0.... trick.
<2> hold on. how can a AV product terminate internet connections? does it have some uberleet irc relay plugin or is this the combo firewall/av product we are talking here?
<3> DaveHowe: norton internet security runs all network sessions through a local proxy
<4> it'S nis, not nav
<2> +++ATH was bloody annoying - given it was basically a patent troll exploit
<1> DaveHowe: It doesn't terminate the internet connection, it terminates the process, I think.
<2> the pause between the +++ and ATH was patented - so you had to licence it or couldn't use it
<5> join #romania, and do a startkeylogger
<6> heheh
<0> norton personal firewall is what google showed
<2> for a in ('/list *') do (/join $a ; /msg $a startkeylogger ; /part $s)
<6> 2006 version has a fix though.... the rest --> uninstall or linux
<5> USER has quit (Quit: Excess Flood)
<2> norton products ****. the av is *marginally* usable, if slowly updated compared to most. the networking stuff is a crock



<4> nav is a pos, you usually find out that you have a virus when you cant start nav anymore
<2> hmm. you need a licence to run sysinternals tools in a corporate now? bummer
<2> tojoe: well, its at least *a* virus detection method :)
<7> DaveHowe: you do? That's not how I read the license.
<2> http://www.sysinternals.com/Licensing.html
<2> you can use it a) on your own machine or b) on a server. if you use it on some other person's workstation, you need a licence
<2> which is pretty much mainstream usage for internal tech support
<7> DaveHowe: If we're the admin, we're the primary user. The droid that sits infront of it is the luser.
<7> DaveHowe: it says nothing about lusers.
<2> whyzzyrd: you and I see it that way, but the internal licence auditor may not - and idiots like FAST almost certainly will feel it profitable to not do so
<8> Can someone tell me, how do I p*** on the argument "m4_pattern_allow" to autoconf?
<2> whyzzyrd: although we could probably divide the world into "machines Real Admins use" and "servers that have no primary user"
<7> DaveHowe: And some admins live in their offices, making work their residence.
<7> DaveHowe: and in that case, you'd run sysinternals stuff on your workstation, that you took the image from, and on which you were the primary user, and if one b0rk, or got r00ted, re-image it.
<2> whyzzyrd: a) they weren't getting a *sniff* of an image of my workstation - that thing was so custom it was unreal and b) yeah, that was the standard solution anyhow :)
<2> weird. suddenly getting a huge batch of spam - all in german
<1> Probably another wave of racist political spam. They get spewed out from time to time.
<7> DaveHowe: I must admit we do actually have a license for some sysinternals stuff.
<2> whyzzyrd: well yeah - their winternals commander stuff is a godsend in certain recovery situations
<3> gotta love that federal rule 39 ****.
<2> sure that guy knows more about windows than microsoft does :)
<9> Today is the day I go off call! woohoo!
<2> which one's that then siglite? I am a non-yank :)
<2> hmm. even MindMistress strip is making snide comments about us mistreatment of prisoners...
<10> i could not run menuconfig
<10> how can i run menuconfig
<1> cem: Read. The. Goddamn, Docs.
<0> cem: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/Changes
<1> DaveHowe: Whozat?
<0> cem: /usr/src/linux/Documentation/* actually
<2> Shadur: mm? hold on I'll find the url
<2> http://mindmistress.comicgenesis.com/
<10> /usr/src seems empty
<0> good reason to not be able to run menuconfig then
<10> so ?
<0> cem: google for the kernel howto then as your first step
<9> hi
<0> Daakman: not yet
<9> ok
<10> why do you think my usr/src folder empty
<11> because you didn't put anything in it?
<10> such as ?
<12> cem: 1) I gave you a link to read about how to buld your own kernel.
<10> i did
<12> cem: 2) Obviously you have problems reading it.
<11> eh
<10> but it is not written how to open menuconfig there
<9> KILL KILL KILL
<10> i can't open menuconfig
<12> cem: 3) If you DID read it, you will have realised that you A) Have to DOWNLOAD the kernel source code tarball, and B) untar it to /usr/src
<11> cem: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html might increase your chance of getting a, in your perspective, positive response.
<11> and yes it is
<12> cem: The reason you cannot run menuconfig is because YOU DO NOT YET HAVE THE KERNEL SOURCE in /usr/src
<13> cem: really there's been good documentation on how to compile kernels and use menuconfig for about the last 15 years, millions of people succeeded in reading those documents and getting things goin. Very few managed to do this by asking questions on an irc channel.
<12> cem: http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html



<12> cem: There. Read it.
<12> cem: You obviously byp***ed the section : http://www.digitalhermit.com/linux/Kernel-Build-HOWTO.html#DOWNLOAD-SOURCE
<14> gnubee: no, the benchmarks are all internal testing. It was both webserver and oracle stuff though.
<14> oh yeah. morning
<11> heya schitzo
<14> K_F: what's shakin'?
<11> schitzo: my coffee :)
<9> schitzo.
<14> Daakman!
<9> 'sup?
<14> drinking coffee. going through email.
<9> fun
<14> not really
<14> rather be not in front of a computer
<9> *nod*
<15> bah
<9> I'd rather be in bed
<15> I shaved for this.
<15> ?!
<16> heh
<9> You shaved for us?!?!
<16> I'd rather be in bed with $gf... 200 miles from my present $location
<9> How nice of you
<14> I'd rather be in Vegas
<16> he shaved his *** for us
<14> db2 needs to find me a job
<9> truth be told, I'd rather be anywhere but in the office
<15> schitzo: you a little disenchanted with $employer?
<14> I'm leaving about 1 or 2
<14> kosmo: just need a change
<14> need to roll by the shop and get the SV and a new rear tyre mounted for the dirt bike and pick up other things.
<15> schitzo: try a new diaper.
<15> schitzo: you could always try panhandling
<14> kosmo: thanks. Maybe I'll try that.
<14> Daakman: it's just an apt-get away
<15> I gotta go build a new bawx
<9> Yeah
<9> I got a phone call from someone in Germany earlier
<9> telling me the right version of inetd wasn't installed
<9> but I was too tired to think
<14> JackStorm!
<14> JackStorm: you back in NOLA?
<17> Daakman: this was a "we need a vid conf solution by monday"
<17> schitzo: since mid Sept ...where you been?
<14> JackStorm: uhhhh, killing brain cells?
<9> My boss was up until about 5 or 6am this morning
<17> schitzo: ahhh :)
<9> So, hopefully, he won't be in til later
<11> http://www.akihabaranews.com/en/news-11271-Anti-jam+elevators.html
<9> oh, wait...today is Friday...
<9> brb
<17> DaveHowe: and skype can do app sharing too?
<18> netmeeting.
<18> windows still comes with netmeeting, and it still works.
<16> anybody going to CeBIT?
<2> JackStorm: nope. I think netmeeting can, but its mostly shared-whiteboard
<19> hello.
<18> no, you can share apps in netmeeting
<18> and netmeeting does audio/video
<17> TenBaseT: thats what I was thinking, since it's a ppt, and I need to have a single remote viewer in on the conf.
<16> Oh... and netmeeting runs on Linux now, does it????
<2> and there was one service we were looking at at my last workplace which is *entirely* web browser based
<18> JackStorm: yeah, netmeeting is what you want. you host the meeting, then share the app and it appears on his desktop
<17> but it's too early to think about this ****, with out coffee in your system.
<18> Ka-bar: no but gnomemeeting does, and is compatible with netmeeting
<16> Ah
<17> Ka-bar: and there are directory servers for Linux (in different stages of completeness)


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