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<0> lemme rephrase that
<0> i'm actually installing nnm at the moment so i can sniff the traffic and figure it out
<1> jlgaddis: don't bother. I got it
<1> jlgaddis: exactly what I'd do, then I'd write it down in my web space.
<0> yeah, that's what i usually do
<1> jlgaddis: I was going to have a whirl with your heartbeat stuff for a test DNS server..
<0> hmm, dunno if i'd use heartbeat for that or not
<0> with dns, i'd just have 'em both up and running... with heartbeat, the services only run on one server at a time... when it goes down, it starts up the services on the other
<0> unless you had a reason for doing that, i suppose
<1> jlgaddis: It's more the floating IP stuff really.
<0> ahh ok
<0> it's pretty cool
<0> our internet-facing mail system uses heartbeat as well
<1> jlgaddis: our internet facing mail system uses 4 big-*** servers as MX records.
<0> heh, we have two big *** servers, using heartbeat
<1> jlgaddis: our webmail platform has pseudo load-balancing.
<1> jlgaddis: Our servers aren't that big-*** really. They're Quad 3G Xeons, 8M cache, 8G ram.
<2> whyzzyrd, how much email do you handle? :P
<1> fredk: depends
<2> estimate? :P
<2> ok, how many users or domains then?
<1> fredk: 12k users.
<1> fredk: Those machines do the A/V and the spam tagging too.
<3> whyzzyrd: What is big*** if that's not big*** then?
<4> Bjprn-: that's what I was wondering myself.. I mean it's 8 GB memory.
<5> hi there... could anyone help me with a mandrake 10.1 problem?
<1> Bjprn-: Big*** would be V1280, or perhaps E6900
<6> not unless you state it.
<1> Bjprn-: Maybe a primepower 2500
<5> I'm trying to install pptp client from http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-mandrake-101.phtml
<5> when I type rpm --upgrade ppp-2.4.3-4mdk10.1.i586.rpm
<5> it sais it needs "libpcap.so.0". where do I find that?
<6> gruia_g: why? MD has its own pppd stuff.
<6> s/pppd/pptp/
<1> night all
<6> whyzzyrd: *wave*
<5> could u tell me where to look for help for installing that?
<6> gruia_g: 1) Please use English, its spelled "you". 2) Check up on the MD documentation with regarding to installing/removing software. pptp clients are included with the distro.
<5> thanks, sorry about the "u"
<6> also consider an upgrade, mandrake is rather old, their current distribution is called 'mandrivia'
<7> Mandriva. I've emailed them several times to remind them that their new distro name sounds like a Cross-dressing Male Dominatrix
<7> It's a cross between Connectiva and Mandrake, I told them Condrake was still stupid, but better.
<6> hmm, quanta doesn't even change the links in my html.
<6> thank Sun for consolidated environments :P Some smart luser was using a l33t FTP client and told it to upload everything to '~' resulting in, yes, a directory in his home directory with the name '~'. Here's a tip: you *don't* want to try and run "rm -r -- ~" from Midnight Commander :P
<6> the pos trashed my homedirectory :P But since its but a zone it wasn't a danger for my system and I restored it quickly from backups. Still....
<7> rofl
<7> I gotta figure out that zone stuff.
<6> I wonder what mc is doing with the commandline here.
<7> It seems like a neat idea on paper.
<6> (it worked fine from the console btw, luser fixed his crappy client and all was well).
<6> CeruEatn: hmmm... zones are pretty neat IMO.
<7> Are they something like VM's?
<6> the only real competition is IMO Xen.
<6> CeruEatn: *nod*
<6> CeruEatn: basicly your virtual box on top of your regular, but since its all using a single kernel it won't gobble up your resources.
<7> I understand you can take a stack of 1U Sun systems (Sunfires for instance) and pool their resources, then break chunks into Zones, so you could have X number of CPU's and X amount of memory in each.
<6> CeruEatn: could be, dunno about that
<7> Or maybe it was if you took one big multi-CPU blade server, an Enterprise-level one... I forget now.
<7> We have a grand total of 2 Sun Sunfires for our websites, so I don't know if we need to get that complicated, heh
<8> hmm, looks like i forgot to kill my client at work
<8> there.
<6> 00:14 [NekoBot!jb@nekonet.irc] Time connected: 0 day(s) 0:00:11
<9> jeremy
<6> w00t
<9> "Zimbabwe was due to issue a note worth 100,000 Zimbabwean dollars in an attempt to keep abreast of inflation, now running at over 1,000%. The new note will barely buy a loaf of bread."
<9> Sean
<9> Tamahome: I'm a millionaire!
<9> Tamahome: So is anyone with $10 USD :)
<10> heh.
<11> Nanuq : ??
<9> NineVolt: $10 USD = $1003732.63 ZWD
<12> Nanuq: geeze
<11> ... WOW
<11> 1000% inflation?
<9> didn't realise that sort of thing was going on right now :)
<11> yearly?!
<9> I mean I've heard of hyperinflation in the not too distant past. Argentina comes to mind.
<13> pre-WWII Germany
<3> Happened in Russia (or Soviet?)
<9> Ka-bar: I'm trying to think in my lifespan ;)
<13> inflation was so bad, workers got paid daily otherwise, by the end of the week, their money would be almost worthless
<11> it's a good idea
<11> [hyperinflation]
<3> People used wheel barrels when going to the bank (to carry all the money)
<4> lol
<11> i remember pictures like that of pre-ww2 german
<3> No plastic cards back then.. no no
<9> Bjprn-: and using it as insulation and/or burning the money instead of buying firewood ;)
<3> Nanuq: Wheel barrel costs more than the money it carried at some point..
<3> s/costs/costed
<9> Bjprn-: cost ;)
<4> we got it anyways ;)
<14> can someone recommend me some proxy which I can install using console without root access??
<6> Tom74656: squid.
<6> ofcourse it depends on the type of proxy.
<6> proxy could mean anything.
<14> well proxy for evrything :)
<6> Tom74656: without root you won't be able to change the firewall anyway. Goodbye.
<4> *sniff* *sniff*
<14> hmmm
<10> blah, CSS is such a pain
<15> Is it possible to shutdown a hdd when linux is booted? [two bootloader: 1) boot the hdd in rw mode for configuration and installation (compilation) 2) boot the hdd and transfert an image or information on a flash (compact flash with an ide adapter, or just flash, hdd flash, etc...) in ro mode and shutdown the hdd ?
<6> sometimes, yeah
<3> SATA ones
<6> Tamahome: that was aimed at you ;)
<10> Peter: heh.
<6> TESTER2: in theory.
<3> hmm, shutdown can't be done..
<13> if the device and the driver support spinning down the device, yeah, you can shadow a filesystem on to something else (say a ramdisk) and then shut off the drive. It's a pain, though.
<9> Tamahome: aye
<9> Tamahome: if you come across a _good_ reference, lemmie know
<16> Anyone in here install Ipodlinux on an Ipod Nano? I want to do this so I can play video on the Ipod Nano 2G
<15> I want to keep the hdd for development but it's too noisy for the day-to-day use
<10> building an app in ASP.NET to host my (eventual) vlog.
<15> So I'll have to use another box for devel
<3> ryanoe: That's a longshot if you are aiming for help in this channel..
<3> ryanoe: Check ipodlinux wiki for that..
<13> TESTER2, wow, that's a lot of trouble to go to just for noise abatement...
<15> I want a complete fanless system in RO flash
<3> TESTER2: You should not aim for shutdown of the drive but rather get it spun down.
<15> I can also use an hdd case that I can remove
<13> TESTER2, then I would look into flash-based IDE devices.
<3> TESTER2: APM or ACPI does that for you, given you have the right options in BIOS.
<15> what do you think about 2,5'' drive in a 3'5 system (noise level??)
<3> low
<15> still some noise ...
<13> several models of the box that my employer makes use flash disks, boot up read-only and shadow some stuff to ramdisk.
<13> Different OS in my case (FreeBSD), but you should be able to do it with Linux.
<15> but flash drives are very slow...
<13> TESTER2, yes, that's why you shadow stuff to ramdisk...
<13> you're only hitting the flash disk while you're booting.
<15> Do you heard of the i-ram or something like that card
<15> It's an pci card with ddr ram
<15> and you plug it in an ide port
<15> 4gb/max
<15> it can keep your data for 12-16 days with an internal battery
<13> that might work. solid-state "drives" are very quiet.
<13> Actually, there is a company called, I think, "Baydel" that makes some very nice ones.
<15> it will be more expensive that a 6gb flash drive :)
<3> ah
<15> a lot more
<16> Why is hat?
<13> TESTER2, I have no experience with this product, but I've heard a couple other people raving about it....
<13> http://www.baydel.com/products/index.asp?area_id=5&page_id=0
<15> Yeah I already have this url opened :)
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