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<0> No fscker wants to run RH 8. Come on.
<1> hhi guys
<2> Nanuq: must ****!
<1> i have a quick dns question...that I hope somebody can help me out with
<2> neonet2006: how can we help when we dont know the problem? read the chan rules
<3> neonet2006: Anything particular you're waiting for?
<1> let's say I have 2 dns servers (one for internal queries and one for external queries) how would i configure my linux client (i guess through resolv.conf) to check first for the internal dns server, and then the external dns server
<3> neonet2006: You can't do that with resolv.conf. A better option is to have the internal one forward requests it can't answer to the external one
<3> neonet2006: If you happen to use bind, look at the forwarders option.
<1> is there any other way to get this configuration setup, without reconfiguring the dns server (let's say on the internal dns namerserver) with 2 zones (internal & external)
<1> I mean on the client end
<4> noxo: it's like the Sheryl Crow song.. "it's not having what you want, it's wanting what you've got"
<5> neonet2006: couldn't you set up your own basic DNS server on the client machine that forwards requests first to the internal server, then the external one?
<3> neonet2006: Other than installing a dns server on every client, no
<3> neonet2006: Don't you think it's a whole lot easier to make a simple change to the internal server's config?
<1> i see
<1> definetly...I agree
<1> i was just trying to explore my options, before I go ahead and configure anything
<5> neonet2006: if it's something like not having authority to change the dns server, couldn't you just set up an unofficial third one that queries them both and use that?
<6> hi
<1> and I apreciate very much the help
<6> is there any way to find out what cpu is a certain process using?
<6> say i have two cpu's on a machine
<3> dweller: Apps like top show you which cpu a process is running on
<1> robbelhoff: that the situation
<1> i don't have authority to change either the internal nor the external dns servers
<3> Hmm, funny. You'd expect ps to be capable of that too
<3> neonet2006: So bug the person that is responsible for that
<5> neonet2006: if you're trying to do this for multiple computers, yeah, just set up bind on an old pentium, set it to query them both and use that
<5> neonet2006: if it's just one comp, set bind up locally
<1> and because the client (in itself is an application server)...I would just install dns on it...and getting configured with proprely to forward to both internal/external nameserver
<1> i totally agree
<1> Thanks guys....for the help
<5> np
<3> Threaten it with a debian netinst cd
<7> YAY!
<7> Net speed and cap has been upgraded and the month has started again, 1Gb 2mbit to 10gb 3.5mbit, although we'd been at 65kbit due to going over 1gb for a few weeks
<2> p0rn? or warez?
<7> Anything, heh
<7> And no latency issues when flatmate surfs the web
<3> Gees, traffic limits are so..... oldfashioned
<7> yeah
<2> whats their substitute?
<7> no cap?:)
<3> I'm not much of a downloader at all and even average 60GB/moth
<8> Coma: 60gb?
<8> that's a ****ton
<8> i download like i dont know, 5 GB a month
<9> Coma: I use them extensively here to make sure each wireless and fibre client gets what they're paying for and not more.
<3> Is it? I know of people doubling that
<8> including all traffic with games and ****
<8> i guess im just too busy reading books
<8> im going after my CCIE
<5> ccie?
<0> Coma: I made a point of getting my broadband from a provider that doesn't and never has limited traffic.
<8> robbelhoff: CCIE
<3> Shadur: Depends onthe model you use I guess. You could also bill afterwards for overspending
<5> tavi-san: CCIE?
<8> robbelhoff: yes CCIE
<8> robbelhoff: http://www.just****inggoogleit.com/
<8> see?
<8> hiya john, peter, Shadur
<3> cisco certied something
<3> er, certified
<3> hoi tavi
<0> intenetworking expert
<3> Heh, cisco certified intarweb ereet!
<9> Coma: The problem is they're paying for 128Kbit/512Kbit/1Mbit/etc when the network hardware's capable of 11Mbit.
<8> Coma: yeah their biggest one
<8> going for routing and switching one
<8> maybe who knows, in the next years i will try security
<8> but that one is evul
<3> Shadur: Ah, that sort of deal, like kpn's umts offers
<0> Coma: I thought of going the certification route, but then NA's are crap, NP's not much better, then you need to specialise, and you have to keep going back to renew all the certs..
<8> whyzzyrd: go for IE
<8> like me
<8> although i have the others
<3> whyzzyrd: And it costs you an arm and a leg, too
<8> and teach NA and NP soon
<3> Then again, I don't have to know anything either. I just sit here and smile at people ;)
<8> lucky bastard!!!
<0> tavi-san: They're not cheap either.
<0> tavi-san t'other thing that militated me against getting an NA was all the obsolete irrelvant crap in it.
<0> tavi-san: who in feck uses frame-relay now.
<10> you'd be surprised.
<10> and not pleasantly.
<0> D-side: slowest link I've ever seen in 10 years+ pissing about with these things is 10M-FL.
<10> if all you need is T1 speeds, FR is cheap.
<0> D-side: is it? Is it cheaper than a 24M SHDSL line?
<10> whyzzyrd: frame isnt good for that kind of application though.
<10> if you've got multiple locations that need interoffice connectivity, frame is a damn cheap way to do it.
<0> D-side: Slowest wan link I've ever used at work was a 10M SMDS service .
<10> well now you're just a showoff. :)
<0> D-side: That SMDS was when I was a 1st year student. We got a pair of 155M ATM circuits to replace it.
<10> i stand by my previous statement. heh
<0> D-side: The 155M circuits were replaced with 2G ZX GE channels.
<0> D-side: and now we're upping that to 2x 2G ZX GE channels, and the MAN uplink is going from 622 POS to 2x 2.5G POS.
<10> would you like a cookie? :D
<0> D-side: $company I do a little consulting with uses DSL lines and VPN tunnels for branch office connectivity.
<11> and i want an OC192 to my bedroom.
<10> yeah thats the more common way to do things now.
<0> I had 100M to mine when I was a student.
<12> Revenger: I suspect your wife doesn't have the same homedecorating plants
<10> but considering we're dropping T1 circuits to these customers anyway, frame isnt always a bad choice.
<10> Revenger: hey, it'll fit in a closet. :)
<0> D-side: I'm not sure it ever took off that much in europe..
<0> D-side: I wonder what a BT megastream is.
<8> http://linuxops.net/~tavi/Tux/
<11> maybe its ATM :P
<0> Revenger: no. IIRC it's an E1.
<0> Revenger: with a box on the end
<11> ach so.
<11> bbiab
<12> tavi-san: you need to regenerate your icons ;)
<8> wlfshmn: huh? D:
<12> tavi-san: all .ico's in there are twice the size of the corresponding .png ;)
<8> yeah :D
<8> i like them
<8> http://linuxops.net/~tavi/Tux/tux-ninja_ronchon-tux.png this one i like best
<2> tavi-san: looks good, <-wlfshmns'v too
<12> noxo: huh?
<2> wlfshmn: <ignore that>
<12> noxo: Sure thing ;)
<13> what were ppl using as an ftp server before SSH became the craze?
<8> FredPitcher: huh? :)
<12> FredPitcher: wu-ftpd, profptd
<8> wu?
<2> FredPitcher: wu-ftpd definately
<13> thanks
<2> or was it wsftpd
<12> ftp is -so- 90s
<0> vsftpd is what I use now, if I need one.
<0> wu-ftp had some fairly major holes in it IIRC
<10> i seem to recall the same.
<10> but I don't run a public facing ftp. forget that.
<14> yeah, and then suse dropped proftpd in favour of vs but kept wu in as well iirc :p
<0> D-side: s'not public facing..
<15> proftpd is sayd to be not-so-easy to configure [but it's a fake story], but vsftpd is more acceptable. FredPitcher notice if you use a default rpm install for vsftpd, on some distribution, you need to modify something in vsftpd.conf because by default it comes with a chroot enabled for all users.
<10> whyzzyrd: thank god. heh
<0> D-side: IIRC we have a couple, but I don't run em,
<13> thanks
<13> when somebody said ftp is so 90s. does he just mean that nowadays ppl tunnel ftp? or use ftps?
<6> Coma,
<6> i know! but for some reason i dont see it on linux
<6> on solaris i do however
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