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<0> waznz: yeah, but I didnt want a 19" widescreen
<0> the height is actually smaller than a 17" CRT
<1> somebody can help me?
<1> im noob in linux
<2> MaXt0r: no.
<2> No-one here is qualified enough.
<2> Steakk: did you get the right one this time?
<1> its so easy
<0> waznz: uh huh :)
<0> now, time to re-do my desktop setups here
<0> I will have 3 monitors, 4 computers, and a KVM
<3> dude
<3> i gotta see this flick!
<3> http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/02/02/turkish.movie.ap/index.html
<2> Sweet. I've got my eye on a 20" widescreen ... although I'm tempted by the 23" ... I've only got 2 15" screens currently
<4> waznz: you're still on jetstart!?!



<0> I have 1 19" TFT, and 2 17" CRT's
<5> I want one of the 26" Dells
<6> Steakk: what size did you buy?
<6> I have a 21" sony trinitron at work
<5> currently I have a 27" Viewsonic I've had for 8 years
<5> errrr 17
<3> 27" viewsonnic?
<3> oh
<3> :)
<5> not 27
<5> don't think they had screens that big back then
<0> cappicard: 19" TFT...$299.99
<3> they still don't, not in CRT anyway
<2> Cynic: Who knows ... I don't think telecom know themselves. It is the 256k plan (currently ... once I make some more money I'll move up) ... I haven't seen my usage meter move yet...
<6> ah
<0> HAH, cl***ic...pepper spray on all the band instruments
<3> yahoobb baby
<6> docfu has his system hard wired into both Tokyo Bay and Mount Fiji at the same time :)
<3> thats fuji
<3> fiji is somewhere far away :)
<6> oh, my mistake. I can't spell tonight. lol
<6> hmm... have you been to Hiroruki Sakai's place? I'm bored
<6> nothing like an overly eccentric actor who walks around dressed up like a fuzzy buffoon pretending to be a millionaire on a cooking show to make ones day :)
<8> Hi
<9> so if you make an application.. and you make it open source under the gpl license.. then no one can use your code for profit?
<10> D347H: of course they can, but so can anyone else.
<2> Someone can still use your code for profit
<5> heh, licensing is such a bitch
<11> yes, but they also have to provide the source and that person can re-distribute for free
<11> so you'd make money off the first person
<8> Does anyone know about various open source ticket tracking software...im looking for a good one in PHP...Im finding so many just by searching I was hoping to find someone who might be familiar with one or two
<11> then if that person wants, they can redistribute at their will
<5> mabaa: the mozilla one
<9> yea but i mean..
<12> hi
<6> thus why I prefer the BSD license
<9> what if they pay the person who stole or took your code??
<5> bugzilla or whatever they call it... actually that's really only useful if you're doing tickets for software
<6> with the GPL, you'd be SOL
<2> D347H: huh?
<5> for service tickets... I honestly don't know
<8> bugzilla? Doesn't seem to fit my needs...im not actually tracking bugs or opening it to an open customer base
<11> I like the GPL, because of that requirement
<12> someone can help me please, I'm using mandrake version 10.0, in a vmware virtual machine
<8> its for within a group ... authors request database queries from the techs
<5> sounds like you want a portal
<2> mabaa: have a look at DCL - dcl.sourceforge.net
<12> I want to start KDE but I cant, with startx...
<8> so ideally, an author would say "i need this info" , the techs would be emailed, one of them would flag that they are working on it so two people dont do the same thing...then close it when they are done, etc..
<8> waznz, Ill check it out, thanks
<2> mabaa: not sure if it'll suit what you want but have a look - they also have links off to other projects. I've used DCL in a few places and with a few custom reports, it's worked well for me.
<6> bimbo25: search for CRM or CMS software on freshmeat
<5> yeah you're probably looking at a portal kinda thing you'd have to customize
<8> what do you mean by a portal..?
<6> even egroupware has ticket software



<9> safemode said that you'd make money off the first person. what if someone else took your code and built it into some other application but instead licensed the application as shareware or something..
<5> D347H: they can't
<2> D347H: Then you'd talk to a lawyer and sue them?
<8> cappicard: part of the problem is that there are SO many options
<8> DCL looks promising...
<2> bimbo25: is KDE installed?
<2> and the default window manager?
<9> oh so if your code is under the gpl .. you have to leave it open source?
<5> ayup
<5> welcome to invasive licensing
<2> Yup - unless you dual license it - like MySQL
<12> wazn: yes kde is installed
<9> but how do you make money then??
<6> mabaa: yeah. I installed egroupware last night. It has a trouble ticket system
<5> D347H: the Linux distro vendors make money through service contracts
<2> D347H: By providing a service. Installation/Support/Modifications
<8> cappicard, you like it?
<9> ahh services..
<5> everyone knows that actual products don't make much money nowadays (if any)
<9> i don't know.. microsoft seems to be doing well
<6> I'm testing it here for a few minutes
<5> again, they make money for services rendered
<5> software site licenses are a service, not a product
<8> egroupware may be more than I need
<9> oh..
<8> id like ot keep it as simple as possible
<9> you mean allowing 500 installations of a certain os?
<9> i see..
<5> that's where they make their real coin
<6> hmm... this TTS is abit simplistic. It only lets you enter total billable hours in decimal format. i prefer a TTS where I enter a start and end times
<2> cappicard: DCL is like that too
<13> Redhat stock chart compared to Microsoft http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?t=1y&s=RHAT&l=on&z=m&q=l&c=msft
<9> haha..
<9> you're kidding me
<8> im not even concerned with billable hours...just being able to submit a request which notifies everyone on a list, and then someone flags it, opens it, takes ownership, or whatever...and then either leaves it there if they cant do it or dont finish it, or close it when they are....fairly simple
<5> I dunno why people are putting stock in RH
<2> mabaa: tickets within DCL will do that for you.
<8> yeh, I like DCL so far
<2> Tamahome: Tastes good?
<5> waznz: .....
<8> there was one called RT which I like but its written in perl which I'm less familiar with
<14> hi all, which IDS program in that is easy and simple?
<15> where the **** is siglite
<2> has RT been touched lately? I think the activity on DCL has somewhat fallen aside, although it has been integrated into the GNUe project, though
<5> bonking his woman?
<2> attending his 'sprout'
<9> i don't get the chart though..
<15> she cant get enough of the cue bal
<0> oh sweet...this monitor ROCKS
<6> re
<0> so vibrant compared to a CRT
<0> so much smaller footprint too
<9> it means the revenue has grown that much percent?
<2> :D
<6> waznz: we use Applix iEnterprise at work.
<16> hello world!
<6> works great but it's expensive as hell.
<8> waznz, couldnt tell you if RT is supported anymore. Know it started in 96 though which is obviously a decade ago, ha
<9> and microsoft has remained stable?
<12> I have the following message: execve failed for /etc/x11/x (errno 13)
<0> okay, who else is going to steal my monitor?
<12> when i try to start startx
<16> hello people, I need some little help with something
<12> what is the cause
<2> cappicard: the same people that made the office software for linux back in 96?
<15> bimbo25: have you googled for that error?
<6> I think so
<5> wow... Applix is still going at it?
<6> yep
<2> bimbo25: do you have an X server installed AND configured correctly?


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