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<0> wow
<1> they got a few other things, but not the winlogonhook :( it uses randomly named dll's that get installed prior to logon and uninstalled after logout, so it's always ****ing resident
<0> Where do I get this 12mfix?
<0> All Im finding is the message board
<1> ell two emm fix
<1> it's to find look 2 me style issues, but first I'd really make sure you were having this particular problem since it's quite a nasty tool that can **** things up
<0> Oh, I just want to look at it
<2> desktop cant start becouse mouse is not well config....
<2> what ive to put if ive a D25 mouse conector?
<2> in debian
<2> sorry
<2> D9
<2> hello..
<2> anyone there?
<3> RAMO: fix your enter key
<4> RAMO: Ohh, a real serial mouse? Didn't know those still existed
<2> can you explain it well..?
<2> jaja
<2> its a celeron 600mhz:D
<4> Or worse, could even be a busmouse
<2> ive installed debian for 2 hours...
<2> can i chenge mi mouse port now?
<2> or ive to reinstall?
<4> RAMO: Well, the device you should be using is probably /dev/ttyS0
<2> ahh
<4> Though which protocol to use depends on the mouse you've got
<2> thanks a lot..
<2> but..
<2> can i change it now?
<4> You could try setting it to "Auto" and hope X can figure it out
<2> but i can open X
<2> it says becouse of mouse:S
<0> RAMO: edit the file, retard.
<2> i dont know how:(
<4> RAMO: Sure, just drop to the commandline, login and edit /etc/X11/XF86Config or /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
<2> but
<4> Depending on which version you've got installed
<2> login dont work:S
<2> 3.1
<4> Umm, that still ships with xfree, doesn't it?
<0> yeah
<4> And what do you mean, login doesn't work?
<2> it says wrong p***word..
<2> but..
<2> it isent wrong:S
<0> RAMO: Dude, you STILL havent fixed it?
<2> jaive reinstalled
<2> but
<2> when im writin p***word
<0> RAMO: if its saying its wrong, its wrong. Why is it wrong, because you probably mistyped it.
<2> it dosent write
<2> but
<4> Make sure your capslock is off
<2> tell me if when you write p***word it shows it on the screen..
<4> RAMO: And will you stop abusing your enterkey like that? And stop typing lines with just "but" on
<4> No, it shouldn't echo the p***word to the screen
<2> but it shows ******? or nothing?
<5> nothing guy
<2> ah perfect..
<4> Depends on where you're loging in at. On the console, it doesn't echo a thing
<2> im going to try loging again
<2> and change mouse port
<1> anyway, ciao for now all
<2> thanks all
<6> I forgot to build most of iptables in my last kernel
<6> I'm waiting for a shipment of round tuits to come in before I reboot into the fixed one
<0> Liandrin: Ick. thats the ****
<6> I tried to build it as modules, but apparently NAT affects things in the monolithic kernel >.<
<3> Coma: did you break it again ?
<6> I really hate it when you get the option to build something as a module that won't actually build standalone
<4> Sunblade: No, built a new firewall yesterday and forgot a few things it seems
<4> Liandrin: Um, I thought all the iptables stuff was independent from the rest of the kernel
<4> I wonder which identd I was using previously
<0> Coma: What are you using now?
<0> Ive always had luck with oidentd
<4> Um, whatever debian installs by default, if any at all
<4> Ah, _none_
<4> syn-ack: Thinking of using bidentd or midentd
<3> I am using oidentd too, it has one disadvantage and that is that it read ip_conntrack for nat-ed connections and by default the permissions are 440
<3> s/read/reads/
<0> Coma: hrm, never used them....
<4> Sunblade: So you end up running it as root? :P
<3> so tweaking the 2.6 kernel is necessary
<3> no I run it as root and let it create the proc entry with 444
<3> s/root/nobody/
<0> smoke break
<4> Hmm, I'm not going to fiddle with the kernel remotely. Especially since it's a little more sensitive on a cobalt
<3> *nod* but afaik it only has that issue with nat-ed connections
<4> Sunblade: I only have nat-ed connections ;)
<3> ofcourse :P
<4> I could always setup a fake identd again, always returning the same
<3> that's ofcourse an idea too
<4> Oh, that'll be a little problematic.
<4> I actually rely on working idents
<6> Coma, so did I, apparently that's not strictly the case
<6> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maltron_keyboard
<4> Haha, people can actually type on that thing?
<7> Yeah, they're great
<7> Takes a hell of a lot to get used to, but once you do, they're great.
<7> I've only tried one, didn't have time to get used to it, but I can see how they become very natural after a while, and the typing is very flowing and low-impact. Hardly any hand movement.
<6> Demonen, just the shape, or the Maltron layout as well?
<7> The layout is the problem, the shape is rather natural to the hand, actually.
<4> It'll never fit on my laptop though
<6> they do make them in Qwerty or Dvorak
<6> but , ouch
<7> Yeah, they are Qwerty, but ... no, they're not :P
<7> The keys are in the Qwerty order, but the position of the keys is .. odd, ofcourse, and the layout of stuff like Shift, Space etc are different
<4> Holy fsck! Isn't that a little steep for a keyboard?
<6> the Datahand "keyboard" is $675
<7> Well, you could run it over with a tank, and all that would happen is that you say fdlakjldjwaldh on IRC.
<6> Demonen, well, Maltron also created their own layout
<7> Liandrin: Oh, ok. The one I tested was a Maltron 3D with Qwerty
<6> Coma, and for an employer, a Maltron is cheaper than a lawsuit ;)
<4> Liandrin: Or atleast losing a good employee to RSI
<6> Coma, that too
<4> Here in $saneland people aren't all that lawsuit happy yet ;)
<0> Coma: give it a bit, Im sure its coming
<4> I certainly hope way can stay as much clear of .us insanity as possible
<0> Only in America can you sue for spilling a cup of coffee on yourself
<7> I read about a case where some woman tripped over a kid in a mall, and broke her wrist. She sued the mall and won a few million dollars US.
<7> The problem is, it was her kid!
<0> When the hell did AMD buy ATI?
<7> I sure hope that's a made up one.
<7> syn-ack_: last week?
<0> Oh, ok. I just learned of it obviously
<7> Yeah, obviously.
<7> They've been denying it for weeks, and the, WHAM, it happens.
<0> I was hoping I wasnt out of the loop and it didnt happen like a year ago or some ****
<7> They're calling it a "partnership"
<7> Just like HP and Compaq called it a "partnership" when HP undermined Compaqs suppliers, causing them to loose several million-dollar deals, and their stock to plumit, so HP could buy it all...
<6> they'd deny it until the deal closed, to keep their share prices from getting screwed
<0> Lets hope that the ATI driver get a makeover and become something thats actually worth while
<7> syn-ack_: There are some loose rumours going around that AMD will simply release the previous generation ATi specs, allowing opensource drivers to be developed by someone else.
<0> Demonen: That would be nice, but how much is that going to help this generation of chips?
<0> I would think not all too well.
<7> syn-ack_: Well, they'd keep developing drivers, obviously.
<7> AMD, historically, is alot more linux-friendly than ATi
<0> Thats true
<4> Only because to gain more ground on intel
<6> hm, I'm confused now, Windows reports my current video card as an NVIDIA Quadro
<7> Coma: Yes, ofcourse.
<7> Liandrin: Windows is confused?
<0> brb
<4> God damn stinking midentd
<8> Coma: see that thing on hacking a MacBook Pro?
<4> syn-ack: Hacking which bit exactly?
<8> One sec. Xchat isnt playing nice and isnt letting me past the link
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