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<0> good move
<1> I have to go to a meeting about why we're having meetings.
<2> Intel only got the dumb ones.
<3> siglite: heh, fun.
<1> I think the PHB ****'s getting out of hand.
<3> "we're going to convene a meeting to organize a task force to decide who's going to be on some committees..."
<2> Anyone with half a brain would adopt hyper transport.
<4> Ayanami: who are you?
<3> Ka-bar: someone w/ half a brain?
<0> A full half`
<0> ?
<5> Ayanami: Intel got the XScale stuff.
<4> jgaddis: my favorite was always, "We're going to have daily status meetings until we figure out why we're so far behind schedule..."
<2> Yah arm 9 is it?
<5> which is what they wanted, to get some grunt into portable computers
<2> Xscale is the best product intel has.
<5> yeah... forgot the old name
<3> Ka-bar: heh, even better
<6> Xscale?
<2> it's Arm 9 many arm chips like omap will run Xscale code.
<4> enhanced ARM
<5> Orn: what Ayanami said
<2> Arm still exists they sell IP cores to companies including intel.
<2> Ever see some of the hacks they been doing to routers lately?
<5> nope
<2> Like adding HDs even VGA out and sound why I don't know but it's pretty cool.
<2> I bought an MN-700 just so I could install open WRT on it talk about making something from nothing.
<4> wtf needs audio on a router?
<5> stupid people
<2> Not sure net radio?
<0> Tamahome_: that doesn't exclude too many
<2> Though adding a serial port and SD card could be usefull for a super tiny war driving box.
<7> Ka-bar: Becaus eyou can run linux on them and have a/v out?
<7> K_F: People are stupid. Individuals can be smart/.
<7> jgaddis: Uh, they're out there.
<7> In fact, co worker runs his webserver off his Linksys router that has a USB thumbdrive attached for the filesystem
<2> Yah they now have some linux based routers that have a mini web server in them.
<7> Linksys WRT54g <v5.
<2> The asus 500gl
<7> V5 ****s.
<2> V5 does ****
<7> My WRT54G used to run a web server and Kaid.
<5> v5's are the ones that run vxworks
<7> Tamahome_: Yup.
<2> yes and you can't change it yet.
<2> You want a V4 WRT54g
<8> or a wrt54gl
<5> we have a DLink here
<5> DI-524 or summat like that
<0> Falchion: nice way to put it
<7> a WRT54Gl is just a <v5.
<9> seems linksys cant ship the gl over here, i'm waiting since almost a month for a bunch of gl's now
<3> hey, anyone do software raid 1 w/ ide drives? i'm wondering how much of a performance hit we're talking about...
<8> Falchion, it is, i just mentioned it cause wrt54g v<5 you can only get them used, or from some store that still has stock, they arent produced anymore
<10> tojoe: you dont really want a gl.
<2> Duh it's hackable.
<3> hmm, new box from hp
<7> savan: I know.
<10> tojoe: you want an older revision GS.
<10> Ayanami: hush.
<3> new access point. cool.
<10> tojoe: the GL only has 4mb of flash, while older rev GSs have 8. if you can find one, its way worth it.
<9> D-side i have a bunch of gs' collecting dust, as cpe the gl is sufficient
<3> i don't remember ordering this...
<10> if you're happy with "sufficient", then yeah. :)
<2> Ahh more flash is better
<9> i have like 80 of the g deployed, not much sense in paying the bonus for the gs when the g is sufficient
<2> Also suprisingly hackable the MN-700 if you can solder.
<8> http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=6
<2> Why did they put VXworks in the v5?
<10> smaller footprint
<10> lets them cheap out on the ram/flash
<9> probably savin a few cents on flash/ram
<2> I see
<2> But wouldn't they loose on licensing?
<5> damn, those DeWalt air screwdrivers are COOL
<9> apparently not, and apparently the percentage of peopl who bought the wrt54 because it was extensible is negligable, too
<2> The v5 board looks kinda ghetto too.
<11> you look kinda ghetto.
<12> it's ghettofabulous
<2> I see the WRT54g v 5 has only 2mb flash and 8mb ram they do get to cheap out.
<0> heya whyzzyrd
<13> K_F: hi.
<5> 'lo whyzzyrd
<5> HSRP?
<13> Hot Standby Router Protocol
<5> oh
<0> sounds like, uhm, fun
<13> means that if 1 link goes down, the other'll pick up the router address & MAC.
<4> hot grits in your pants?
<5> hot grits!
<0> whyzzyrd: nice
<10> whyzzyrd: ciscoey day today eh?
<13> They also have the advantage of running "sort-of" active-active. I'm not sure quite why, but on the 6513's if the shortest path is up a HSRP link to the building, the traffic takes it. The traffic always goes out whichever link has the gateway IP on it at the time, but traffic flows back up both links.
<5> Crisco
<0> whyzzyrd: sounds like a nice system
<10> I'm looking for docs on juniper netscreens and dual wan routing.
<10> not in here mind you, just in general since we're sort of on the topic. :)
<4> Crisco is better than vaseline and it's edible!
<14> any command to trunkate a file?
<0> D-side: the latter is mentioned on lartc.org isn't it?
<13> D-side: indeed, a ciscoey day.
<5> lonetron: >
<10> K_F: I need it done specifically through this firewall.
<10> well no. *I* don't, my customer dropped this on me today, I think they expect it by Friday.
<5> D-side: ah the joys of working at Initech
<0> D-side: don't they always....
<10> whyzzyrd: at least you've got the higher level duties. Today they realized I'm the only person in the company who remembers how the ISDN CPE works, and I had to take a road trip.
<13> D-side: hehehe
<0> schitzo: heh
<0> I haven't had that happening in a while
<0> what did you do?
<5> he looked at it the wrong way
<12> was deleting stuff in the editor window.
<7> Yay, lockpick set should arrive tomorrow.
<12> probably some stupid gnome crap that caused the dump
<12> heh. summary of email message "we are moving away from bugzilla to remedy. Remedy doesn't do any of the **** that the end user users bugzilla for, so **** you end users. we're going to use remedy anyway"
<5> oh god, I hate Remedy
<12> I don't have to use it. that's all that matters.
<12> "it won't accpet email, the end user can't edit it after it's been submitted. but it's still better"
<15> I haven't used Remedy, but DDTS has to be worse
<5> no idea what DDTS is
<15> old UNIX-only system made by Clear, obsoleted (I think) by Rational ClearCase
<15> hideous nasty raw-X11 UI, or excruciatingly painful CLI
<13> sounds a bit like our old system
<5> yikes
<15> really didn't like running on a Windows X server
<5> well... Remedy has this really horrible Windows client that has about a bajillion controls on one form.
<15> and I had the really really fun job of porting the contents of our old system, which I'd written, into DDTS
<15> name stands for Distributed Defect Tracking System
<15> Cisco uses (maybe used, haven't looked for a while) it too
<4> Rational products are generally anything but...
<15> oops, yeah, Rational, not Clear ;)
<15> I hated DDTS
<15> it was also my job to produce release notes based on DDTS contents
<4> eeewww
<4> I'm sorry
<15> I was handed this awful accretion of Perl, bash, csh, and Tcl that the Promina team used for theirs
<15> sorry, ksh, not bash
<5> "accretion", there's a word you don't see everyday :P
<15> Tamahome_, there's no better way to describe this mess ;)
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