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<0> :)
<1> TenBaseT: they are a different department, they just call people, work 5 hrs a day, and make ****loads of money from the percentage of sales
<0> ssh tunnels rule.
<2> I think firing people for taking 5 minutes out of their slavish day is retarded. thats where this is going.
<1> TenBaseT: us in the networking/programming departments
<1> can use IRC IM anytime
<1> kosmo: screen + irssi = winning combo
<0> TenBaseT: when painting with a broad brush, your statement is very fair.
<2> dude if they make their quotas who the **** cares whether they play yahoo backgammon
<0> tavi-san: yup, and the only thing that Big Brother can prove is that have an SSH tunnel open to my house.
<3> TenBaseT, if I'm reading between the lines correctly, this person was previously told that he/she/it shouldn't be playing games... i.e. a warning was given.
<1> TenBaseT: that's the thing, THEY DONT MEET THE MINIMUM SALES VALUE
<2> This is how america stays ahead in productivity games. by firing people.
<1> actually they must do like 5 sales/day minimum, and like the best get to 3 daily
<1> kosmo: hahaha
<2> that sounds more like unrealistic sales quotas
<1> TenBaseT: it was my mistake whatsoever
<2> if no one makes them
<0> tavi-san: cept for one thing. Head Geek is the worst abuser of anyone :)
<0> TenBaseT: ignoring a warning is dumb.
<1> i was the one who kinda told them "guys, do what you want, but sell ****"
<1> that didnt work
<2> agreed.
<4> kosmo: if you can tell from the logs that this is true, he doesn't deserve to be head geek :)
<0> and, why was the warning issued? probably not for a 5 minute rest break.
<2> I do the putty+irssi+screen thing here
<5> same.
<1> TenBaseT: it's not, the other country departments, with the same calling lists, make easily 5-6 daily
<0> DaveHowe: sorry, I dont follow?
<1> TenBaseT: of course, me too :)
<5> but i ssh to a sort-of nonstandard port.
<1> D-side: ip and port pls :P
<0> DaveHowe: oh. nevermind. Head Geek is also the keeper of the logs.
<6> TenBaseT: As did I - now I just ts into my server
<1> hah, i am head geek
<0> DaveHowe: he isnt going to turn himself in (as #1 abuser) not to mention, a handful of others in IT that are almost as bad as he is :)
<4> kosmo: even more reason why his surfing shouldn't be showing up :)
<1> anyways, now i will try and set some GPOs to restrain any java application on the computers
<0> DaveHowe: "fox guarding the hen house"
<1> and when we move the hq, i move everything except the voip gw from cisco to linux
<4> kosmo: or ideally, target some manager who is annoying and remap all the logs so it is "his" surfing that shows up...
<1> and God have mercy on them :)
<0> DaveHowe: heh
<1> wow, nice quit message redblue had
<1> TenBaseT: if other people would have the same selling issues, i wouldve understood
<0> DaveHowe: but, that is all changing for reasons I cannot get into at this moment. I have a job to finish before my craptop battery dies.
<0> then I must show and go to the dentist :(
<1> but when they all have the same lists, and the .hu .ch and other ones live up to their quote easily
<4> kosmo: if nothing else, "compress" yesterday's log by way of sed.... :)
<1> then of course we do have a problem
<7> morning
<1> hi steven
<1> TenBaseT: plus that this was my first fired dude
<1> and it was bitter i must say, but being caught playing by $boss when we have an inspection from the general hqs that IS stupid
<4> kosmo: had an easier "out" on my network. we had a proxy that didn't log, which was "owned" by one of the subdivisions that used our bandwidth. so if you really wanted to do something out of band, just change your proxy to that...
<4> kosmo: and it was one of the chairman's pet projects, so nothing was ever said :)
<0> DaveHowe: hahahahahah.
<4> kosmo: in fact, the report we built for "abuse logging" explicitly excluded all subs proxies by ip
<4> (which is normal enough - given they would have the top slots due to the load)
<1> DaveHowe: i checked to show you a report i made a few months back
<1> DaveHowe: you would've loved the "2 hours average a day spent on unusual sites with unusual downloads"
<1> that to be read as "pr0n all the way baby"
<1> cant find it though, the IT manager i had then laughed every time he remembered it ;)
<8> smsie: poke!
<4> tavi-san: it was a crystal report - so it dereferenced IP by novell login, sorted by bytes received inbound; it could then drill down to site (again, sorted by inbound) and then down to actual data transactions
<4> crystal is good at that sort of thing
<4> I would have appeared close to top of the list every day for isos and **** I was getting - not that I used the proxy of course :)
<1> DaveHowe: hahaha
<1> DaveHowe: luckily, here i only irc and that's about it
<1> i got a full 100 mbps line @ home
<1> campus line :)
<1> i can live with that :)
<4> created a firewall group "able to byp*** proxy and go directly to web" and then added the "firewall supervisors" group to it.. which purely incidentally included me
<4> that meant it byp***ed the net nanny too - which was pretty restrictive
<1> DaveHowe: evil, i like you :P
<1> i used to just be the only one that p***ed through the ciscos freely... :)
<4> exactly how restrictive varied over time. normally someone in management at board level would bitch and lock down on the catagory list. then one by one departments would scream blue murder as sites they "needed" were blocked by websense and ask for exceptions - all of which were referred to the board member in question for approval
<9> DaveHowe: Yeah. Tell me about it. It makes it a -bitch- to surf for pr0n at work.
<1> i just didnt use the proxies at all :)
<4> wlfshmn: well worst case I could have just sshed to the firewall itself and used it as an outbound proxy :)
<1> anyways, in about 1.5 months i will prolly get my promotion, and have my own office, not this cube i live in
<1> that should solve a lot of issues ;)
<9> DaveHowe: I have a firefox running in a vnc session at home over the ssh-tunnel
<9> DaveHowe: not for pr0n though, but to leech torrents ;)
<9> DaveHowe: but I -could- surf pr0n over it if I wanted to
<1> wlfshmn: torrents with pr0n? :P
<4> wlfshmn: yeah. I was *very* careful not to do anything like that at work. my machine was so clean it would have been suspicious :)
<1> in .ro there is a whole pr0n torrent network with only dvd rips of the best pr0n :)
<10> i tried using xinerama, but my desktop ends up looking garbled, here's a screenshot: http://junk.****software.com/garbled.jpg
<10> any ideas on a cause?
<1> DaveHowe: speaking of clean, i got a gift while i was at kaspersky
<4> wlfshmn: but yeah, I could surf what I wanted, and if I really needed to surf for stuff that must not under any circumstances leave a trace on my machine - I would just vnc to the websense server and use a web browser directly on there :)
<1> with a t-shirt with a big spot on the back saying "i wish my t-shirt were as clean as my computer, KASPERSKY ANTIVIRUS"
<1> i enjoyed that, found it really funny
<9> tavi-san: the tracker I use has a sub-tracker with nothing but pr0n
<9> tavi-san: thing is though that commercial pr0n is just so crappy it isn't worth the bother
<11> wlfshmn: any invites left? ;)
<1> wlfshmn: heh, it pays to be "hitec"
<9> I don't think the pr0n tracker even requires invites
<1> DaveHowe: oh, pics?
<9> DaveHowe: Precisly!
<12> dave: depends, if you're 18 I'd prefer the pr0n route :D
<4> exel: no, she is :)
<12> can you even _talk_ to her normally man?
<12> I've worked with a 10 year difference once, it's a damn challenge
<9> exel: who cares? ;)
<12> good point :D
<4> exel: she is geeker than I am in selective areas - mostly to do with graphics packages like PSP
<11> DaveHowe: does she play ad&d?
<9> DaveHowe: Oh, a geek-modified artist-type
<9> Clone: noone plays ad&d anymore unless they are -oldtime- geek
<4> Clone: no, but I don't either - used to GM it, years ago. she plays MMORPGs like Runescape though
<9> Clone: It's D&D 3.5th Edition ;)
<11> wlfshmn: hehe.. I cant transfer, I have too many ad&d books..
<4> got *all* of planescape, including the elemental planes boxset and the official modules
<9> Clone: I play 3.5th, and I have too many of those.
<9> Clone: although I should sell off the most part and just stick to .pdf's
<4> bits and pieces of other stuff - was just starting to collect spelljammer when the Wizards took over
<1> wlfshmn: i expect some nice screenshots from DDO by tomorrow ok?
<11> DaveHowe: selling? I DM planescape as the main campaign :)
<9> tavi-san: I'll try to remember that ,)
<4> Clone: nope, would sell my body for medical experimentation before I let go of any of my books :)
<9> Clone: I never did get into planescape, aside form the computer game
<11> wlfshmn: torment really is nice.. best rpg I ever played.
<4> planescape is really really good for stomping on players when they need it
<11> DaveHowe: you've got exactly my taste :) vampire all the way here ;)
<4> any game where actual gods might have to pick adventurer-pieces out of their toes if they don't see them there....
<4> Clone: used to gm a Concordance, back when that was just wolf/vamp/sorc
<4> no elves, wraiths, ghosts or whatever else they are putting out these days
<11> DaveHowe: nice.. havent played ww campains in a while though.. not enough time to prepare the stories..
<9> Clone: planescape looked like it was intended to make forgotten realms look like a low-magic campaign ;)
<4> Clone: tell me about it. I planned out a wonderful module - wolves raiding a sorc site "stolen" from them, but deep in vamp territory... and the vamp players bolluxed it by wiping the sorcs out before the wolves even got close...
<4> wlfshmn: actually, very little magic in planescape campaigns, unless its in the City of Doors
<11> wlfshmn: nah, it's more like a very weird setting that has endless potential if you dm it right.
<4> wlfshmn: its just too unreliable, given the alignment planes
<4> wlfshmn: dumped a bunch of players into the chaos plane :)
<4> Clone: you really think I let them have those? :)
<11> DaveHowe: now Limbo really is nice to gm, I had players touch the altar of change for two 4 hour sessions ;)
<11> DaveHowe: it's from the tales of the infinite staircase... but I am loosing myself here again ;)
<4> Clone: I cheated. I had them in a red indian teepee, smoking something illegal, and got them to describe their dreams....
<4> Clone: I know. I have that - might have it in ebook too, come to think of it
<4> Clone: then next session, they "woke" to find themselves in limbo, but still where they had dreamed they were....
<4> I am sure you can imagine what was going on there... particularly as they didn't know they were planescaping at all :)
<13> to wlfshmn
<4> Clone: and no, I never did explain how they got from a teepee to limbo
<11> DaveHowe: hehe, yeah I can imagine.. that's really nice.. having players play planescape as clueless primers.
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