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<0> whyxxyrd: actualy i managed to crack both sides
<1> XyZzY: It all depends if the card would fit in the slot with a paper thickness added.
<1> XyZzY: I presume they really are fragile, and you weren't that rough with it?
<0> never
<1> XyZzY: you could try just using a portion of a floppy label
<0> actually I just used a piece of scotch tape wrapped around it. turns out only one part of one side cracked a bit. they should at least have one side a plate of metal
<0> whyxxyrd: if you think those are fragile look at those mini-sd they have now. yikes
<0> about the size of your index fingernail and about as thick
<2> can someone tell me what is the best mp3 player for linux?
<3> iplay: the one which works and which one you like best.
<2> i don't like a specific one, i want to try one
<2> in your opinion
<3> iplay: there are plenty available.
<2> witch is the best?
<4> What brand of Linux?
<2> fc5
<3> iplay: I already told you.
<3> iplay: there is no "best". There are too many variants for that.
<4> FC5 has no MP3 support, you will have to google and download MP3 enabled players.
<2> so please tell me one, cause i don't know any
<3> iplay: www.****inggoogleit.com, fedora.redhat.com, www.freshmeat.org
<3> ofcourse you can also consult the fedora package repository.
<0> found the better way to run the nvidia installer. sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-<latest> --x-module-path=/usr/lib/xorg/modules/
<4> I believe Mandriva and Linspire are the only distro's that over MP3 out of the box.
<4> over = offer
<4> Those two distro's cost money though.
<3> iirc, not sure, the same applies to SuSE. afaik their 10 release can also play mp3's, just not some other formats like divx and the likes. But I'd have to try to be sure 8)
<4> MP3 has a patent which one needs a license to legally play.
<4> Legally decode that is.
<5> ByteEnable: not true
<5> legally *encode*
<5> or decode using hardware
<5> no license is required to decode witrh software
<4> very true: http://www.mp3licensing.com/royalty/
<5> even encoding in software is a grey area...Fraunhoffer don't demand money for it AIUI. They just reserve the right to do so at some point (or somethin)
<2> what do i need to play mp3 files in xmms ?
<6> iplay: the installation of a codec
<3> However, no license is needed for private, non-commercial activities
<3> (e.g., home-entertainment, receiving broadcasts and creating a
<4> $60K for unlimited decode license
<5> ByteEnable: that's misleading
<3> ByteEnable: read that faq again.
<4> lol.
<2> PolarWolf: and what codec is that?
<3> You can distribute the stuff /if/ you don't have commercial activities going on.
<4> A distro has to pay a royalty to ship a legally enabled encoder and decoder
<6> Lion-O: No. Just to implement the algorithm.
<5> ByteEnable: no, it doesn't
<6> Lion-O: As a user you have no issues with them :)
<3> PolarWolf: ah, then it appearantly is a little misleading
<5> ByteEnable: please desist from spreading FUD
<4> MP3 decode is open source and royalty free so therefore its not ship.
<6> Lion-O: It's what I understood of it last time I bothered to look
<3> this doesn't apply to distribution at all.
<3> (the website)
<5> ByteEnable: please do not spread misonformation like this. It's completely untrue at worst, and at the very best it'#s simply misleading
<6> iplay: An mp3 codec. This **** is documented all over the place, generally as a FAQ for the distribution in question
<4> OpenSuse, Fedora Core, and other open source distro's do not ship with MP3 playback because they would have to pay a license fee.
<6> iplay: Together with a walkthrough to get it going
<5> ByteEnable: not true
<4> Retail version of Linux DO have MP3 playback because they have paid royalties.
<3> ByteEnable: After reading that site I highly question that.
<5> ByteEnable: and fedora is hardly "open source"
<4> smsie: Its fully open source.
<3> Besides, I'll have a go later on, iirc SuSE does allow mp3 playback out of the box. But I'll see 8)
<3> tiem to get going
<5> ByteEnable: let me spell this out to you. AS long as I do not generate revenue from my distribution of mp3 playback software, I DO NOT NEED to pay a royalty
<6> Fedora says:
<6> "MP3 encoding/decoding support is not included in any Fedora application because MP3 is heavily patented in several regions including the United States. The patent holder is unwilling to give an unrestricted patent grant, as required by the GPL. Other platforms might have paid the royalty and/or included proprietary software. Other Linux distributions not based in a region affected by the patent might ship MP3 decoders/encoders or they might have
<4> openSUSE 10.1 will with gstreamer, because they have worked out a deal.
<6> edora Core cannot and does not ship MP3 decoders/encoders in order to serve the goal of shipping only free and open source software that is not restricted by software patents."
<5> ByteEnable: you're just spreading FUD. Stop doing it
<6> There ya go. It's a principle thing.
<4> http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php?story=20051223114511873&query=gstreamer%2Bmp3
<6> Now STFU
<4> http://www.linuxelectrons.com/article.php?story=20051223114511873
<6> ByteEnable: I fail to see the relevance
<4> Relevance is that you can get MP3 playback for free with gstreamer.
<4> If you sign the license agreement.
<6> ByteEnable: I can get mp3 playback for free with a great number of players and codecs
<5> you can get mp3 playback for free *anyway*
<4> PolarWolf, me 2.
<4> wmv, mpeg4 and so on.
<6> ByteEnable: You seem to fail to understand the difference between "free" and "free"
<7> :o/
<6> Not uncommon.
<8> hello averyone
<6> cheeksy: Everyone does
<6> It's undernet, what'd you expect
<7> PeeWee: not as bad. i keep lagging and disconnecting
<6> Stability? Hahahaha!
<7> PeeWee: can YOU give me stability?
<6> cheeksy: Sure
<7> PeeWee: what kind
<7> thats where lag starts. either me or PeeWee
<6> cheeksy: Various kinds, depending on your exact needs
<7> PeeWee: i have really high demands. can you fullfill them?:o)
<7> hmmmm
<6> cheeksy: If all else fails I'll buy you something on batteries
<7> PeeWee: can't be settle with toys.
<7> settled even
<7> what, so young and IT doesnt work already?
<6> Oh, it works fine
<7> oh really.
<6> Sure
<7> prove it!
<7> lol
<6> Go lie on the table, I'll be right with ya :)
<9> hello
<7> do i look like a blowup doll to you????
<6> cheeksy: blowup dolls get the bed
<9> im having trouble trying to hotsync my palmpilot... somebody can help me?
<7> PeeWee: so unfair.
<7> LeScout: come back later. we are having life and death conversation.
<6> cheeksy: Oh dunno. It is possible to promote :)
<7> pro-what?
<7> where do you even learn such words
<6> IRC
<9> ;)
<6> I sharpened my english skills by wasting time online
<7> did whitecap teach you again and didnt explain what it means?
<6> cheeksy: http://www.f2by.com/catalog/images/horse.jpg
<6> cheeksy: There ya go, webcam capture
<0> what you need things powered by AC and not DC?
<7> LOL
<7> its something i really really DONT want to see at 3.15am!
<0> too close tobedtime for dreams eh?
<6> cheeksy: Why are you even up at this time :)
<10> PolarWolf: yeah.. 'cause the rest of us don't stay up to 3am? ;)
<7> i have insomnia
<7> i had a really bad break up
<7> not that i am upset about break up
<6> cheeksy: Nah, you just like us too much :)
<0> Ooo we can help comfort you
<7> right
<6> Break up? As in relationship?
<7> aha
<7> sort of
<6> *again*?
<7> men can really turn tables around
<0> either that or batteries died and out of cucumbers
<7> oh shush
<7> XyZzY: you are disgusting. sit quietly
<10> cheeksy: doesn't healikng after a breakup involve a few bottles of wine, your girlfriends and a lot of trashtalk?
<4> XyZzY, Is cheeksy gay?
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