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<0> aybabtu: erm, no. black radiates heat better than white
<1> when i used emerge once time it broke (couldn't even download the kernel for compile).
<2> dave ehhh?
<1> dpkg hasn't broken yet :-D :-D
<3> just no ... black absorbs heat, white reflects ... you may notice that white is white because its reflecting light and black is the absence of light
<0> Pujolaia: gentoo uses emerge. deadrat (spit) uses rpm, as does suse; you want dpkg, run debian
<1> DaveHowe: i thought distros could run various softwares
<0> aybabtu: indeed. however, radiated heat is more a factor than absorbed heat for a caliper; it isn't exposed to enough direct sunlight for absorbing light to be an issue
<1> is there emerge dpkg
<3> this is stupid
<1> geewrd: ?
<0> aybabtu: that is why radiating fins are more efficient black than white
<1> i just typed emerge dpkg and got an error
<4> Pujolaia: RTFM comes to mind.
<1> 'emerge' is not recognized
<1> Lion-O: ?
<1> Lion-O: what is rftm
<3> OoOoOoOoOo
<4> Distributions usually center around a specific package manager.
<3> reach for the moon
<0> Pujolaia: manuals should always be in rtf format :)
<1> hrmm, but Lion-O i thought all linuxes could run the same softwares
<4> Pujolaia: read the ****ing manual.
<4> Pujolaia: they can.
<1> Lion-O: can i run dpkg in gentoo
<4> Pujolaia: sure. But it would be useless.
<1> i would like a sources.lst file that has the gentoo sites
<1> hrmm
<1> i didn't know useless software happens just from installing on another linux
<3> r
<1> so if i run debian, i have to run it on all my networks computers?
<1> :<
<4> Pujolaia: then you'll have to create your own software repositories first OR fully switch from the gentoo to Debian repositories. For someone running gentoo you're sure clueless.
<2> radiating fins are for absorbing heat and radiating it
<2> aren't they?
<1> well
<1> i thought dpkg checked sources.lst
<0> geewrd: they get heat by conduction, and emit low energy photons
<1> can't i just put gentoo sources in the sources
<4> Pujolaia: It doesn't.
<1> hrmm
<1> my teacher says "evrything is a file in linux"
<1> there must be file with sources.lst
<1> i would just put gentoo sources in
<3> Pujolaia: is this a wind-up ?
<1> dpkg -i gaim for example
<4> s/mines/mine/
<1> why was i banned
<4> Pujolaia: I suggest you first start reading up on this before spouting off total nonsense and as such wasting our time.
<2> rofl
<5> does a Razr do MP3 ringtones?
<1> i like gaim but i need it faster
<1> so i switched to gentoo
<2> I think some of them do schitzo
<4> I see it doesn't get the point.
<5> geewrd: hmmmm
<2> maybe they all do
<2> pujolaia just asked me to get him unbanned
<2> he should know I have the influence of a 2 year old around here
<4> I think we've seen enough stupidity for one evening.
<6> hello
<6> i have suse 10.1 - what free disk space do i need to full install it?
<5> what's the manual suggest?
<4> burg: check the installation manual, it will tell you.
<7> At least 20gigs... :P
<6> loool
<7> Per partition
<6> please don`t make fun
<5> that's all we do around here
<7> It's pretty much a given here...
<6> ok.....have any link with the install manual?
<0> burg: suse 10.1 will tell you how much disk space it is going to need when you get to the point of choosing components - but yeah, about 20gb is right for a full distro these days
<7> http://www.opensuse.org
<4> burg: http://www.suse.com/ is a good place to start.
<0> burg: its on the same dvd as suse 10.1
<7> Yeah, what all they said too
<6> i am runing windows now and i wanna make a partition for linux, just to install it and learn
<6> i was thinking at about 10 gb :|
<4> burg: Should be enough. Like I said; rtfm. Besides; you'll probably need 2 partitions.
<6> well i`ll let some unpartitioned space and start install it
<0> burg: that's fine. you won't get sources, but should be looking at selecting packages rather than just a "thrown on everything and hope"
<6> but dunno what space to have unpartitioned before starting install
<4> DaveHowe: actually.. SuSE makes a good selection.
<0> burg: if you really really want to start with something trivially fixable, go with a livecd version - suse has that.
<6> i have ubuntu livecd
<6> but i want to install it
<0> Lion-O: yup, if you take "typical" but if you take "full" it does that - gives you every bloody thing...
<4> DaveHowe: hehehe, yeah 8)
<7> http://www.tldp.org and http://www.linux.org/
<7> burg: both sites have excellent beginner HowTo documents
<8> Mem: 2060628k total, 2044884k used, 15744k free, 2628k buffers
<8> Swap: 1951888k total, 236940k used, 1714948k free, 1441840k cached
<0> burg: make a "typical" install - should be about 6gb, including swap
<7> I've used the Beginner HowTo on Linux.org myself and it's very good.
<8> Whoah, first time to actually hit swap
<4> DaveHowe: thats why the manual suggests against it. But when people don't want to bother they get what they deserve IMO 8)
<0> burg: if you need anything that isn't in there, you can add it later trivially using YAST
<4> PolarWolf: hmm :-)
<8> Not to mention use more than 20% of the available memory :)
<0> burg: so - go with typical, leave the space available for later installs, and you have up to a further 3gb of installs available in your 10gb of allocated storage
<6> and with a full install?
<4> burg: probably 20 or 30Gb. But why bother? Do you really need 5 IRC clients, 10 mail programs, 20 browsers?
<0> burg: you are probably pushing 20gb with a full install. those sources take up stupid amounts of space expanded
<0> burg: go with typical, then look though the YAST listings for other stuff that looks interesting *after* you have typical installed and running
<9> does anyone know of an opensource web monitoring solution or point me in the right direction? to monitor end user activity, generate reports, ...
<4> Currahee: sourceforge.net has plenty. It all depends on what you wish to monitor. And there is always snmp. But you probably need auditing, so perhaps look into SELinux a little more.
<9> I'm looking for something the CEOs can look at and feel the power they wield over everyone
<9> Lion-O: But thanks I'll do a search there
<0> hmm. now there's a thought
<0> found "netflowguide" referenced on the rddtool site the other day
<0> http://people.ee.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/rrdtool-1.0.x/rrdworld/netflowguide.html
<0> but no sign of it at its original site or anywhere else online. does anyone know if it evolved into something else or just went under?
<0> cheeksy is bouncing well :)
<10> I always thought she'd be good at it
<0> and yet, we lack an avi of the process :)
<11> Anyone know how I can check my CPU's operating frequency?
<0> topangea: bios probably shows you that - most modern biosen do
<4> topangea: check /proc/cpuinfo
<4> smsie: not really ;)
<11> hmm
<8> Heh, all my virtual machines crashed
<11> I see BogoMIPS, but that's about it
<10> Lion-O: oh?
<4> smsie: the ban seemed to have expired and he started blabbering again so I set a ban to shut him up 8)
<5> smsie: yeah.. pay attention.
<10> Lion-O: I banned him until Saturday
<4> smsie: aha!
<0> smsie: he was banned, but not kicked. it was a sword hanging over him just in case he didn't get the hint
<4> smsie: time to expand the ban then. That moron doesn't take a hint.
<10> DaveHowe: nono, this was a couple of days ago
<0> smsie: ah, ok. he may just be on a dynamic ip and it changed then
<10> possibly
<10> he was "pujol" a couple of days ago
<4> ah yes, still exists.
<11> is there somewhere I can find the actual CPU frequency rather than BogoMIPS?
<5> a tuning fork
<10> I told him if he whined about his ban again, I'd ban him for a month
<4> topangea: that file HAS the actual frequency
<10> he messaged me now asking to remove this ban
<10> **** him...too stupid
<4> smsie: ah, I think I see whats up. His IP didn't resolv. So the ban probably was for the host only.
<11> what do you mean? I don't see it anywhere when I cat /proc/cpuinfo
<4> topangea: pretty dumb are you?
<4> topangea: What makes you think the contents of that file won't go off your screen ?
<11> ahh..I see, this kernel does not have it compiled in
<11> thanks for ***uming I'm an idiot
<11> this is an embedded device
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