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<1> yet everyone does, i dunno, spending $400-500 a year just so people can talk to me hardly seems worthwhile
<0> that's wierd... I was always told that it was landlines that were really expensive in .jp
<1> xyzzy free minutes are next to .nil
<1> tamahome they are ridiculously expensive :)
<2> docfu: that's about what you pay here
<1> but I've got yahoo DSL and the yahoo phone
<1> xyzzy yeah but no free minutes, maybe lik 20 a month
<3> cheeks: though the noise lasted like a minute or so.. prolly there was a big bird outside flying .. i would like to think that way..
<1> in america there is this huge 'we'll give more for your money' cellphone war, but in japan it seems like they just come out with newer phones, same old ****
<3> docfu: i'm probably the only person in States who doesn
<3> t have a cellphone
<1> tsokolat yeah you are because i moved to japan ;)
<4> docfu, welcome to the world of heavily regulated telecommunications
<1> Liandrin keeps the competition at bay
<5> tsokolat: and i just discovered i can text message US :o/ and you have no cell phone :o/



<2> docfu: I just hate the attitude buisness has about a cell phone. I was told that I would be less professional if I did not give them my cell phone number. this year I've lost my cell phone permanently
<4> cheeksy, GSM?
<5> yes i believe so
<1> xyzzy give who your cell number? customers?
<3> cheeksy: i'm not into texting!
<2> docfu: the buisness
<5> tsokolat: same as typing!!! :o)
<6> My cell number is printed on my card.
<5> well with 1 finger.
<6> It's also included on our (public) employee directory.
<1> xyzzy yeah it was the same **** when i worked at security
<2> cheeksy: 00100 ?
<4> cheeksy, international text message is supposed to work on GSM networks, but there are frequently misconfigured Message Service Centres that don't know how to route
<1> basically, they wanted my cellphone number so they could demand i come in to work
<5> 00100 what?
<3> cheeksy: i typed too much numbers 8-9 hours a day, i don't want to type numbers using a phone..
<3> type*
<7> hmm
<1> hey nanuq
<3> and cheeksy: texting is like typing english like a moron.. heh
<7> hey doc, cheeksy, Liandrin, XyZzY, Jeremy, tsokolat..
<2> cheeksy: heh. it was a thinkgeek joke t-shirt. counting on your fingers in binary
<1> fire up that mac mini yet?
<2> j0 Nanuq
<5> your cell phone is your personal thing unless your work provides you with one.
<3> hiya Nanuq
<1> nanuq well i'm thinking about getting one
<5> XyZzY: ah. well i am hangover.
<1> and you are the only son of a bitch i know who owns one and its collecting dust
<7> docfu: get a macbook instead
<5> Eric!
<7> docfu: want it?
<2> I've been fighting a migraine all day
<1> i don't want a laptop
<1> nanuq you selling?
<4> XyZzY, bleagh
<7> docfu: might as well, hrm
<2> I am sorta considering a iMac - sorta cool
<7> Liandrin: and how'd that do?
<7> er, go?
<2> Liandrin: you too yes? I pity you
<4> Nanuq, I implemented the basic idea, then kind of lost interest in it
<4> Nanuq, I keep thinking I should dust it off and make it a proper IME
<3> okay, so my co-worker uses this 3 separated crooked keyboard,, looks funky
<1> oh MS natural?
<8> any ideas why is it i cant traceroute my other public ip? considering that is used and switched on
<2> tsokolat: did he make it?
<4> <-- enthusiastic user of Microsoft ergonomic keyboards
<1> nanuq what model mac mini do you have? the bare minimum?
<3> she uses it everyday at work
<2> kernel20: lots of reasons. most common is a firewall
<4> tsokolat, I can't type for more than ten or fifteen minutes without an ergonomic keyboard
<3> i'm using an ergonomic keyboard but the 3 crooked keyboard is bizarre
<1> nanuq so are you going to come visit me?
<2> did not know they had one that split into three parts
<9> heh I don't like MS ergonomic keyboards, tried one for a while the 6000 or whatever and it was really annoying, switched back to good trusty logitech products
<1> libolt i can't stand those new keyboards



<4> libolt, the 6/7 split causes trouble for M$ vs nonM$ ergo users
<1> libolt whats the point of having home/end/pgdown etc vertical?
<8> i dont enable firewall
<2> this Saitek Eclipse keyboard is rather nice too
<1> xyzzy that the one that lights up?
<7> docfu: yeah, the first of them
<4> docfu, makes the keyboard slightly narrower
<2> docfu: yup
<7> docfu: 1.25GHz G4, 40G drive, 256M RAM
<7> docfu: installed Tiger
<8> traceroute ipaddress only marks * but when i ping it i can
<4> docfu, there's always been complaints about how much desk space the Natural keyboards require, which is partly why they came out with the Natural Elite
<1> nanuq you just never use it what?
<8> any ideas why is it i cant traceroute my other public ip? considering that is used and switched on
<1> Liandrin ahh
<2> kernel20: *rawk*
<1> thanks for reminding me
<0> filtering ICMP?
<4> docfu, what's even better is that the new vertical arrangement of the editing keypad is different from the old Natural Elite arrangement
<8> XyZzY?
<7> docfu: well, tired of OS X for one
<1> if my friends come to visit i'll have to make them bring me an old fashioned keyboard
<7> docfu: maybe it'll work better on intel
<1> nanuq why?
<2> we heard you the first time
<4> traceroute works by sending UDP packets with short TTLs and getting ICMP time-expired messages in response
<1> nanuq slow?
<1> nanuq oh i got my hanko btw
<7> docfu: more ram would help, never got around to that
<4> docfu, nifty
<7> docfu: where's mine?
<1> um
<9> I've switched to using a logitech mx 5000 keyboard at home and still have the trusty cordless comfort duo (mouse/keyboard) at corp
<8> you said lots of reason
<1> i already told you, a hanko is a stamp with KANJI
<4> docfu, some day when I have money I inetnd to get one of those
<1> otherwise its just a stamp :)
<8> i have give u onen
<4> s/inetnd/intend/
<7> docfu: yeah well, fine, kanjify me
<1> liandrin mine was a gift from a friend, its pure ivory
<7> docfu: what's the kanji for "BIG WANG"?
<1> nanuq i can't without making you sound like a girl
<6> $995 for a 1-year SSL certificate from Verisign or $99/year from GeoTrust?
<8> i can trace route any ip only ip on my netscreen route i can't traceroute
<10> hehe
<1> jgaddis neither
<6> Funny that one even has to consider.
<7> jgaddis: $9.95 one time from Bob's Discount Certificates
<10> this might be bad...
<1> jgaddis people are so ****ing stupid they'll accept it no matter what :)
<8> ?
<6> If it were that easy, I'd just generate one internally and sign it w/ our CA.
<10> we shipped the first unit of a new product line... on friday, with 3 hours to spare before the end of quarter, serial number 13, and while we were prepping it we were being over-flowin by thousands of crows
<9> it appears debian's preparing for the switch to gcc 4.1 or atleast including the ocmpiler
<1> crows?
<1> strider birds?
<10> docfu: yes
<1> weird, hey
<4> Strider, what does it do?
<10> docfu: for whatever reason, where our office is, we get 10s of thousands of crows at this time of year
<3> strider: in my culture, crows are bad luck. ;/
<1> when i went up north yesterday on the train, there was this house (or 2 or 3) that was literally burning to the ground right next to the train tracks
<10> Liandrin: auto-acquire satellite transceiver...
<1> THAT was ****ing odd
<10> it's sad, I can't navigate my own company's website.
<10> hehe, I shouldn't have ignored my crackberry this morning.. but the folks called me at 6am on a saturday morning..
<4> I refused to visit a former employer's site, thanks to a really obnoxious piece of Flash on the front page
<1> liandrin flash adds are getting bad
<4> this wasn't an ad :|
<1> christ, there was a samsung mobile phone ad on theonion.com that nearly killed my computer
<4> it was actually created in-house and put on the front page of the site on purpose


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