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<0> K_F: that's icmp ping, not tcp ping
<1> good point
<0> netcat is a good source of a full handshake tcp ping though - but obviously, not in broadcast mode
<0> could try a ucp ping in broadcast of course
<0> could try a *udp* ping in broadcast of course
<0> sorry, typo
<0> watching narutos here
<1> what is that?
<0> what, udp?
<1> narutos
<0> ah. an anime series smsie introduced me to :)
<1> seems like some anime or something?
<1> ah, yeah
<2> K_F: some hentai prolly
<1> hehe
<0> whyzzyrd: oddly not - although ninja girls in short skirts feature
<0> no doubt smsie could find me some naruto hentai if I asked ;)
<0> nmap is good at making udp pingsweeps :)
<2> oddly eh?
<1> whyzzyrd: enjoy
<0> yup, oddly. for anime, its surprisingly sparse in the provision of fanservice :)
<3> DaveHowe: has naruto stopped with the filler ****e yet? I've not seen it in months, I got bored with the crap plots
<0> smsie: no idea - rewatching from eps 1 with becky
<3> DaveHowe: ah
<4> smsie 4 or 5 weeks left of the filler crap
<3> DaveHowe: you'll get to see the 15 episode marathon fight with the bloke on the bridge again then :)
<3> tojoe: I might start to watch it after that
<0> smsie: oddly enough, that's what I am watching right now :)
<5> is lvm better ?
<3> haha
<0> c13: better than..?
<5> the normal partitioning !
<5> i got the choice between normal or lvm partioning..
<5> dunno witch is better
<0> c13: depends on what you want to do with it - lvm allows volumes to span over physical disks, and segments to be moved on or off individual disks for maintainance
<4> smsie although i'm not 100% sure, in 175 they say 4 weeks left and in 176 26 weeks, dunno whats true
<0> lvm is a huge, commercial-quality volume management system - damned good,and pretty well established in the unix world
<3> Jostein: I don't think I've seen it since about 150. I think the curry of life arc was the last I saw
<3> umm...s/Jostein/tojoe/
<6> hi guys
<5> DaveHowe, well im gonna install ubuntu... i dont know what choice to make lvm or not
<1> probably not
<7> c13: if you dont need dynamic volume handling capabilities, you dont need lvm
<7> c13: if you dont know what that is, you dont need lvm
<3> c13: if in doubt, not
<6> i need some help
<5> Jostein, what are dynamic volume for ?
<1> HandS0me: down the corridor. third door on the left
<0> c13: unless you know what you are doing, lvm is just useless overhead - ignore it and just partition as normal
<3> HandS0me: lots of lube, nice even strokes, not too hard
<3> HTH, HAND
<1> rofl
<5> cool and now what distro would you suggest personally ?
<3> c13: ubuntu is fine
<0> c13: for what?
<5> workspace no servers.
<5> smsie, just fine?
<0> c13: nothing wrong with ubuntu; knoppix is probably a better live cd, debian more mainstream, but ubuntu is a good solid distro
<1> DaveHowe: I like ubuntu as a live-cd for ppc
<8> specially because it _is_ based on debian.
<0> yoz: so is knoppix
<1> it has saved some OS X installations
<5> what is the most popular distro out now?
<0> yoz: although knoppix iirc isn't exactly ppc friendly, so you may have a point there
<8> DaveHowe: but we're talking about real distros not live cd's or am I missing something?
<0> c13: sadly, the dead rat
<1> only problem is that the HFS+ filesystem has to be shut down properly for it to be writable
<8> ah.
<5> DaveHowe, so dead rat is better than ubuntu?
<8> DaveHowe: agreed.
<1> c13: most popular != "best"
<0> c13: no. just more popular
<1> just most ignorant users using it
<0> dead rat is the microsoft of the linux world, if that makes sense
<1> "best" will always be a subjective term
<8> wtf is dead rat?
<1> yoz: redhat....
<0> for big corporate though, the choices are really only dead rat or suse
<5> i got fc5 but wanna change to ubuntu good choice or stay with fc5?
<8> ouch.
<8> dead rat! *chuckle*
<0> and although suse is gradually losing some of its bad habits, it used to be a more open-source-hostile distro than even the dead rat
<8> DaveHowe: SuSE is going to lose important people.. and their releases seem to be worse than ever.
<0> even now, the commercial forms of dead rat and suse will disown you if you install *anything* other than stuff from oracle or via their package managers
<8> DaveHowe: at least that's what I read about it.
<5> betweem fc5 and ubuntu in here what would be your choices?
<8> c13: ubuntu because it's based on debs
<8> c13: if you want rpm go for fedora.
<9> c13: what are you planning to do with it anyway?
<5> just use it...
<0> yoz: sorry to hear it - I am going to de commercially supporting it from now on...
<5> normal desktop
<9> c13: then it only depends on personal taste. Try both, see what you like best.
<8> DaveHowe: seems novell "makes" important people leave ;-)
<3> DaveHowe: suse is easy to support. There's zero flexibility
<3> it's not very *useful* for exatcly that reason
<8> it was nice to get into the linux world with SuSE.
<0> smsie: corporates like that though
<3> DaveHowe: indeed
<0> suse used to be a good distro, back in the 6.x days
<9> aye.
<5> and now what is a good distro
<9> back in the days where YaST was also usable on the console.
<9> c13: the one you like best
<8> I started with 8.0 everything before that I never knew of.
<0> suits took over though, and tried to turn it into a commercialized, single-install-with-licence ms clone
<9> DaveHowe: they did a pretty good job.. I mean, SuSE 8.x was very slick, same can be said about 9.x
<0> yast 1 was excellent - flexable, easy to use, console based...
<1> not to mention slackware and phat linux
<1> :)
<0> yast 2 *still* ****s
<0> mmmm
<0> first distro I ever had was zipslack :)
<0> back in win95 days
<5> DaveHowe, what ya use now
<0> c13: debian personally, but I keep current with the commercials
<10> K_F: Don't mention phat linux. EVER.
<1> Shadur: hehe, I was unlucky enough to "use" it once
<1> just love how you had to enter absolutely all the hardware details manually
<1> anyways, I'm off. later
<0> c13: although I prefer solaris, tbh
<5> project looking gl***
<8> a new week is going to come again.. ts ts.
<0> yeah, another weekend ends - and yet, there is always another weekend to come
<0> going to be a good week
<0> Becky's birthday tomorrow, and farmer's market fri/sat coming
<8> DaveHowe: yeah.. ;)
<8> DaveHowe: oh sounds good..
<0> going for a curry tomorrow night - then that's it for my "fun" budget this month
<0> but its been fun
<8> ;)
<0> night out to remember on friday, and becky's birthday tomorrow
<0> not bad for a first month, when most of the money has to go on bills
<0> and just in time to give becky a good birthday
<11> Uhm...
<0> you came here to meditate?
<9> aaahhuuummmmmmmmm
<0> or medicate? :)
<9> or get a blue carpet
<11> Tv Time...
<11> away
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