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<0> heya Jostein
<1> ey yoz / Jostein / whyzzyrd /
<2> hey *
<0> oh, Lion-O , whyzzyrd as well :)
<1> ey K_F
<3> hi
<1> battering?
<3> anyone here have installed cvs server?
<4> Lion-O: read more carefully
<1> whyzzyrd: Battering is much more fun :)
<4> nonet: Most people are using Subversion instead.
<1> nonet: just try asking a question and do make sure you read the fine manual.
<4> Lion-O: just ask cheesky. She was battered last night ;-P
<1> :)
<3> ok whyzzyrd..
<4> right, I need to go and do this stuff, or I'll get the wife after me with "REDRUM"
<5> whyzzyrd: only real downside is that you can't install subversion on a windoze box, but there are native ports of cvs these days
<4> DaveHowe: client or server?
<5> whyzzyrd: both (for cvs) - there is a cygwin of the subversion client tools iirc
<5> whyzzyrd: just no server
<4> DaveHowe: no problem, windows isn't a server OS..
<5> wincvs is a gui client for cvs for windoze users, and comes with cvs svr as a nt service
<1> and since netbeans doesn't really like svn afaik, and because cvs is easier to setup I basicly went with the flow 8)
<5> whyzzyrd: its an opinion I won't argue with it - but the bottom line is, you can't get windoze user buy in unless you have a gui client and a windoze port of the server - and cvs has both, subversion neither
<4> lots of projects appear to be moving to svn, and most new projects appear to be using it.
<4> our worst servers, that need rebooted nightly run some JTI thin-client-fu for our finance system.
<5> whyzzyrd: I note with disfavour that 2003 is now so tightly tied to its extended form of dns its directory service won't work properly unless you allow it to be your primary dns server *sigh*
<1> ****y
<4> DaveHowe: another reason for not using it then.
<5> Lion-O: yeah. ended up having it "authoritive" for its own non-existent domain, then a forwarder to the real dns servers
<5> whyzzyrd: orders from On High - you *will* use exchange 2003...
<4> DaveHowe: our response to that would have been, get someone else to make it go in our environment then.
<4> DaveHowe: and we'd have not changed a thing about our solaris/nis setup to help it fit in.
<5> whyzzyrd: tried that - response was apparently "fine - as long as you realise the person who will be making it go will be your successor...
<4> DaveHowe: ahh, they'd have hell trying to get rid of us.
<5> whyzzyrd: my boss just dumped it down the chain, with orders to "make it work without ****ing anything else up too much"
<4> DaveHowe: I can't understand why anyone would want to run exchange..
<5> whyzzyrd: because MS make it
<4> but that's aside. I'm being distracted from what I'm supposed to be doing.
<4> DaveHowe: that'd be a good reason *not* to use it.
<5> whyzzyrd: not in the opinion of Suits. I think the necktie cuts off blood to their brains
<4> DaveHowe: the glossier the brochure, and the more expensive it is, the better it is, eh?
<5> whyzzyrd: no, they don't even bother advertising it to suits that hard any more - its just a case of "everyone else uses microsoft, so if you don't you are abnormal and strange"
<5> I wonder if I can get them on the ibm bounty scheme ;)
<6> hehe.. I must say, I like the change in marking from "Designed for Windows XP" to "Windows Vista Capable". Just the wording speaks volumes ;)
<5> wlfshmn: nobody knows yet, given Vista is likely to require the next generation of chips by the time they finally release it
<5> wlfshmn: its already going to look nothing like the betas - which means all the compatability testing that firms have done (at a fair expense) has to be scrapped
<6> DaveHowe: We havn't even considered testing against vista yet.
<6> DaveHowe: I has to be atleast Beta before I''m going to bother
<4> wlfshmn: We're just going to move to XP this year.
<4> wlfshmn: so vista's probably 5 years away for us, at least.
<5> whyzzyrd: our place can't move to a non-ms desktop - because our major project tracking system is IE only
<4> DaveHowe: we're already on about linux-based cl***rooms, with windows apps that aren't available for either solaris or linux coming in from TS boxen.
<6> whyzzyrd: yeah, I don't envision any of the places I work for moving to vista any time soon either
<4> DaveHowe: all our newer apps that would have been really difficult are moving to web-based stuff.
<4> DaveHowe: and I mean, we're still running dos apps on our 2k boxen.
<6> whyzzyrd: vista support is more of an issue in regards to customers though. Customers do the darndest things.
<4> DaveHowe: We've one particular app that was ported from BBC basic.
<6> whyzzyrd: once in a while you run into a customer who is updated to the teeth.
<5> wlfshmn: already had customers asking if we support it... *sigh*
<6> DaveHowe: Yeah. Those however are people who work off of a checklist
<4> DaveHowe: I presume "Well, Microsoft haven't weeven released it, how are *we* supposed to support it? "
<5> wlfshmn: our answer is "we will, once it is released. we don't support alphas or betas at all"
<6> DaveHowe: About all you can say though is "We won't be able to give a diffinitive answer until the product in question has actually been released, but it would be supprising if we did not support it at that time or soon thereafter."
<6> DaveHowe: nice and noncoittal.
<6> s/noncoittal/noncomittal
<4> non-coital is something entirely different eh?
<7> woot daylight savings time.
<6> whyzzyrd: yeah ;)
<6> safemode: tsk, way ahead of you ;)
<5> wlfshmn: I am currently supporting a product I don't understand, have never seen, have seen exactly four (broken) screenshots for, and for which we sell support...
<6> DaveHowe: joy.
<6> DaveHowe: Atleast I only support software I've written myself ;)
<6> which ofcourse means that I've got software for which I've had no caodechanges in 18 months but boatloads of supprot cases where MS apis are ****ing up
<5> wlfshmn: an american product, *my* second line for is via an indian call center...
<6> DaveHowe: *gasp* You do 1st line?
<5> wlfshmn: no, I do second line. however, We (as a company) are first line for this product, and I got it dumped in my case load
<8> DaveHowe: what is this product, so I can avoid it
<5> D-side: you aren't likely to encounter it - its a web-based archiving solution for groupwise 7
<6> DaveHowe: Ah. joy.
<6> DaveHowe: hehe, there were mumbelings about my having to write integration software for groupwaise a few omnths back
<5> wlfshmn: apparently I will (at some point) get training on this product (when the trainer visits from the states) at which point I have to write the smartbase for the first liners...
<6> DaveHowe: I think the danger p***ed though
<5> wlfshmn: not actually that bad - there is a nice exposed automation interface and plugin api called 3CPO
<6> DaveHowe: It's likelier I'll be integrating with OCS in that case
<5> wlfshmn: all the problems I have encountered aren't with the plugin, but with the embedded IE control that it uses, and/or limitations of the backend webserver (iis based, go figure)
<5> wlfshmn: more likely if you are integrating to the server (rather than the client) you would just use imap, pop3 or smtp
<6> DaveHowe: I would be accessing contact and calendar information primarily
<6> hehe, old cellphones with added features http://www.blocket.se/vi/7725601.htm?ca=12_s
<8> you're right, i certainly shouldnt encounter that.
<9> lol! wlfshmn thats hillarious
<9> that nokia, i think is a 5110 or 6110 or somethiong
<9> my friend had one back in the day, like 1998 or 99
<9> and i used to play snake on it
<9> thats before i even had a computer
<9> so i was even scared to use the phone in case i broke it
<9> i want a sony erricson w900i
<5> it does telephone convos, and sms, and that's it - all I want it to do
<9> that april fools #linux email is the first email ive ever got from that mailing list
<5> and its solid, hard to break, and cheap to get spares for
<10> hi
<6> Sarah-: hmm, I thought that was the opers list ;)
<9> maybe i should be opped then
<6> yoz: guess you weren't important enough ;)
<9> :P
<11> wlfshmn: nah.. more than people can think about ;)
<9> This e-mail is being BCC'd to the #linux chanops mailinglist
<9> woo im awesome then
<6> Sarah-: hmm. was that tomb raider thing worth playing, the new one?
<9> its not out yet
<9> but it looks awesome
<6> Sarah-: Legend?
<9> yeah
<6> Sarah-: ah, I thought you had played it oh well. I'll just have to check for myself then ;)
<9> comes out this month some time
<6> Sarah-: or on your neigbourhood torrent site since two days ago...
<9> lol
<12> hi all, anyone here using Debian? i got this strange error during apt-get, "debconf: warning: possible database corruption. etc...." Is there some way that I can repair it?
<4> ngine: Well, I'd use strace to tell me which file it was saying was corrupted, and restore from the last backup. If that didn't work, I'd got back over a few days.
<12> whyzzyrd: how im gonna do that?
<1> I need to get something to eat
<1> breakfast at 16:00... its all $SO's fault!
<11> ;)
<4> ngine: well, you do have a backup of the system?
<9> Lion-O thats not breakfast lol
<1> yoz: no really... I just told her "I'm hungry, feed me!" and she just laughed, sat on the couch and turned on a movie :P
<12> hmm.. I don't have
<1> Sarah-: its not anymore ;)
<11> Lion-O: oh.. 8)
<6> Lion-O: Damn womens lib ;)
<11> ;)
<1> wlfshmn: I need an upgrade!
<13> poof
<11> lol
<11> Nanuq!
<1> and getting my screen clear ASAP :P
<6> Lion-O: Actuall,y I think you need a downgrade ;)
<1> Nanuq: yo!
<6> Lion-O: from cvs20060402 to something like 19550402 ;)
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