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<0> hehehe
<0> i'd like to see em too sometime
<0> the reason they have em is cause some people have 2-4 hour train commutes daily
<0> doesn't make any sense to go home
<1> that's what I heard
<0> i'm just glad the first two days of cl***es went off without any serious hitches
<1> docfu: so did the axe arive in one piece? :P
<0> yup
<2> heya Daakman
<3> hey
<4> evening, Sean
<2> Fred
<3> what is up?
<2> the sky.
<3> That's good, let's hope it stays there
<2> THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING! </Chicken Little>
<0> ahh
<0> chicken little
<0> the story of how whistleblowing liberals are destroying america
<5> Hmm ... just applied for a Federal Grant to help buy that darn wind turbine :)
<5> If approved, the Feds are going to pay 1/4 of all costs. Not to bad.
<2> hokay... 11:55... bedtime for Tama
<1> laters tama
<6> re
<3> Cynic.
<6> hey Daakman, what's up?
<7> +deja vu
<6> brb, have to shift my antenna out of the way so a car can get out of the garage
<3> Cynic: *sigh* on call this week...so, I've not been able to actually get away from work for any length of time
<6> (very adhoc net conncetion here)
<1> Daakman: ****0rz
<8> Good evening my little droobies
<1> j0 Greyfox
<3> XyZzY: very much so
<8> Heya XyZzY
<8> I Did It
<6> i'll be very suprised if i'm still here
<6> hrm.
<8> I've set up the most bizarre networking setup ever
<9> Hi, anyone can help me installing my Nvidia video card GF4MX440, I downloaded the driver for Linux32, I try to run it it says run it as root, but I am root
<6> Greyfox: does it involve a speaker tripod out on the driveway and a really long power/ethernet cable? ;)
<1> Jukii: man whoami, su, sudo
<6> Daakman: break the pager 'accidentally'
<3> Cynic: Yeah
<8> Cynic: Nope. I didn't feel like swapping out my switch for the wireless router so I plugged the wireless router into a plug on the switch
<3> I suppose I could do that, it automatically rings over to my bosses phone if I don't answer
<6> hey, anyone can drop a pager in the sink when they're doing the dishes and it goes off and gives them a fright..
<8> I set up a virtial network interface in the 10.dot range on my Linux box and am doing PPP over SSH from my laptop over wireless
<6> Greyfox: heh, that is pretty convoluted. good work.
<8> It was giving me fits for a while because I'd set up the wireless address but not the LAN address
<8> So I could ping the laptop from Linux but not the other way around
<1> Daakman: blame beepilepsy
<10> http://familywatchdog.us/ <-- have you guys seen this?
<9> Hi, anyone can help me installing my Nvidia video card GF4MX440, I downloaded the driver for Linux32, I try to run it it says run it as root, but I am root
<3> brb, gotta call someone
<8> You have to go away to call someone?
<3> yeah
<3> phone reception ****s like hell in my office
<6> Jukii: XyZzY already attempted to help you.. stop parroting.
<8> Ouch
<11> m000
<6> hey dogbert2
<9> <6>: I dont speak that language.
<12> hi all
<6> hey OM
<8> Heya OM
<12> hi Cynic, Greyfox
<1> wtf? a *** offender living directly across from a elementary school?
<3> back
<6> Jukii: what, english? he told you what manpages to read to find out what user you are, and how to change to root...
<12> XyZzY: best place for him, no?
<9> <6>: I am logged as root
<12> ****ing java SOAP, barfs on just about any message you give it
<3> I'm going to install a VoIP client on my work laptop so I don't have worry about how good my cell phone reception is wherever I go
<12> ``I can't understand your namespace... I can't understand your envelope'' </whine>
<12> Greyfox: when it works it's beautiful... perl serialises and deserieliases so nicely.
<8> Daakman: Yah, VOIP is cool
<11> Ho, Ha, Ha, Guard, Turn, Parry, Dodge, Spin, Ha, Thrust!
<3> Greyfox: Yeah, I've got a co-worker that uses it...he can be at home and someone call his office phone and he gets it on his laptop
<12> shove an array of references to hashes into the message and it comes out exactly the same on the other end
<6> Jukii: either you're wrong or the install script is wrong. If it's the latter, I guess you'll have to fix the script.
<8> OldMonk: Is some bozo making you do it in Java?
<3> Greyfox: I thought was pretty cool
<1> OldMonk: damn two of them within 2 blocks of a elementary school and one was 'cruelty to a child' <ironic>wonderful</ironic> I thought they couldn't live withing so far of places like that
<12> Greyfox: i'm doing it in perl -- the other bozo is doing it in java :)
<12> XyZzY: are there laws like that?
<8> Daakman: I've been playing around with asterisk lately. Asterisk gives me a woody. It lets you route from channel to channel however you want to. It's pretty much everything I've been wanting in a phone system for the past decade or so
<12> or injunctions on them?
<8> Well closer to decade and a half
<1> OldMonk: dunno. will have to inquire
<12> Greyfox: unfortunately in india it's illegal to connect voip and pstn to the same exchange :(
<12> as usual, government protecting big corporations
<3> Greyfox: Well, I'm not sure which VoIP client we have at work, but hopefully, it's a decent one
<8> OldMonk: Doh! Although I could see that driving everyone to VOIP a lot faster...
<5> OldMonk: You've got phone systems in India? Oh well wait ... I think DELL and IBM brought them over ;)
<12> misch: we graduated from coke cans tied to strings only a few months back :)
<8> Daakman: I'd suggest chucking the VOIP client and just installing an asterisk system and have IT handle incoming SIP. That gives you experience with it and the experience lets you leverage it into every aspect of your telecommunications world.
<8> Oh, and then attach a sip client to asterisk. Or better yet, a USB handset.
<12> Greyfox: there's a mssive gray market selling voip services illegally -- a couple get busted every month, and a dozen others spring up in their place
<5> Applying for a Federal Grant obvously requires a great deal of patience, work, boold, sweat and tears ..
<5> s/boold/blood
<3> htf do you sell voip services illegally?
<8> OldMonk: Sounds like it wouldn't be a problem if everyone were on pure VOIP. Screw the PSTN, just all go pure IP
<12> Greyfox: with our area that's a long way away
<5> Well .. VOIP is just not there yet. I do a lot of VOIP and have dropped calls, echos, congestions, you name it ...
<8> Aah, that ****s.
<12> Daakman: you setup an illegal private exchange, then sell people cards that allow them to make cheap long-distance calls through your exchange
<12> Daakman: dial local number, then auth code, then remote number, etc.
<3> Greyfox: I think, because we have a big contract with Nortel, we'd probably install their VoIP client
<3> OldMonk: oh
<8> Daakman: It's all SIP at the end of it, unless they're proprietary
<12> actually i don't claim to know exactly how it works, but it'd be something like that
<8> And AFAIK skype is really the only one that's proprietary
<5> Greyfox: SIP only initiates the session (hence Session Initiation Protcol). After that, it depends on a lot of things, i.e. codecs.
<5> As a matter of fact, one sometimes need a degree in Molecular Physics to make two different VOIP systems talk to each other - Proxy, Outbound Proxy, how to transmitt the SIP url and caller URL .. you name it ..
<8> misch: Yah but everyone seems to support the same codecs, so the hardest part of the process seems to be establishing the sip connection.
<5> Greyfox: Most have some sort of a fall back codec they can agree upon. Since those fallback codecs are not optimal, you have bad quality, echo and so on.
<1> geeze you'd think it would fairly simple program to do sound over IP
<5> XyZzY: I wrote the first voice chat client for Linux in '94
<8> Yah. Asterisk seems to encourage GSM
<1> misch: cool
<6> misch: duplex?
<11> fox news babes
<5> XyZzY: Its name was mtalk.
<1> I think I remember that
<6> Daakman: i'm finding voip pretty fascinating
<5> Cynic: No, no. It was like Walkie Talkie.
<3> before this job, all I knew about phones was that you could call another person with 'em...
<3> how it got there, I had no clue
<6> misch: ah cool
<5> Cynic: Yeah .. they made me 'honorable' donut in here for the program. Unfortunately that is all but forgotten.
<13> Daakman: phones are easy.
<8> With the digium FXO/FXS card in my system I can route calls from the PSTN or over VOIP (Once I find a provider that doesn't ****) into my asterisk box. I've got a standard wireless phone plugged into the FXS port and can route calls from the asterisk system to that phone or my room mate's SIP phone.
<6> misch: bleedin ingrates! ;)
<8> She doesn't really like the sip software though, so I might snag her a USB handset in the name of science.
<13> Greyfox: tell me when you find a provider that doesnt **** ***.
<13> looking for SIP, IAX, or either?
<6> i hadn't quite figured out the merits of SIP then
<5> Greyfox: I've got a Wifi wireless phone. Pretty cool, but its batteries last only for about 7 hrs.
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