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<0> Coma: yeah..
<1> fredk_: Well, if a 4400 is as old as I think it is, no
<2> hi Coma, fredk_ :)
<3> No I mean a V440 btw :)
<2> Coma: i am like 80% sure im gonna be playing CoV with Shadur :)
<4> **** a v440
<1> fredk_: Ah, now that sounds a little better
<4> I've got a v480 and it's a turd.
<2> TenBaseT: if you enjoy screwing hardware it's ok then
<1> Oh, they're that bad then?
<2> whatever turns you on :P
<3> TenBaseT, it's the quad cpu 4U box?
<4> the 440 is yea
<3> TenBaseT, 480 = 8 cpu? :P
<4> No, the 480 holds 4 as well
<3> TenBaseT, so it's ****e?
<1> It just takes up 8U?
<1> 4 cpus, 8 U, 0 value :P
<4> well, I mean, if you like big noisy slow sun boxes that cost a fortune for support and spares, they're great.
<3> haha
<5> heya Coma
<1> Hey Sean
<3> TenBaseT, so, ultrasparc IIIi @ 1.593ghz == slow?
<5> considering you can get Xeons at twice that clock speed, I would think so
<6> TenBaseT, . . . at an old $job we had a Sun E5500... the annual maintenance contract on the box was like $20K(US)
<3> Tamahome_, cause clock speed is all that matters ;)
<5> yeah we had an E5500 at the hospital
<5> thing looked like a fridge
<6> It's not the clock so much as what you get done each clock cycle...
<5> but then, so did the mainframe (IBM S/390)
<3> well, i'm looking at picking up one.. but just trying to figure out if its a piece of **** or not :)
<6> so instead of renewing the contract on the E5500, we bought an E4500 for about the same price and kept it as a hot spare. :)
<5> Solaris still rocks my socks.
<4> fredk_: they're built like tanks. The hardware quality is spectacular, of course.
<3> TenBaseT ;)
<4> fredk_: that said, if I was a solaris shop, I'd much rather have a HP server running solaris x86
<3> TenBaseT, heh that bad huh
<5> TBT: does Whoracle run on SolX86 yet?
<3> obviously, it depends on specs. If its a quad cpu model it can't be THAT bad
<4> Tamahome_: dunno, DB's arent my area
<4> fredk_: no, it's not that bad, really, unless you're measuring in performance per dollar.
<3> TenBaseT, i'd be paying at most like 1500 or so
<4> the 440 is a little slower than the v480 I have, but it doesnt use those retarded fibrechannel internal disks
<4> so thats a plus
<3> Yeah
<3> from what I can tell they only come with 1.6Ghz cpu's?
<4> oh wait, my bad. the 440 /is/ faster than the v480
<4> the v480 comes with 1.2ghz apparently
<5> are those Sun Fire?
<3> Tamahome_, yeah
<4> yea
<4> the 480 is EOL now
<4> but the 440 is still sold
<3> at freaking $40K with 32GB memory ;)
<5> what the **** could you possibly run that would make effective use of 32GB?!?
<7> damn, it's cold.
<5> Rens: aye.
<2> Shadur: heh, same here
<8> i had pizza for lunch.
<1> The cold isn't too bad, it's the #(*&#^%$ snow that ****s
<3> Tamahome_, could stream 4-5 dvds from ramdrive?
<5> yes, snow must die
<3> ;)
<8> more damn garlic than i thought could fit on the thing.
<5> fredk: sadist :P
<3> the snow has been crazy here
<5> wow... Sun plugging Sybase on the V440 page... I didn't think anyone sane actually used Sybase anymore
<3> http://www.vg.no/bilder/edrum/1141157449321_474.jpg
<3> Tamahome_, suits dont know that
<5> eheh
<5> $13,995 for the basic dual processor/4GB model
<5> too rich for my blood!
<3> Tamahome_, I refuse to pay more than $1500 ;)
<4> Tamahome_: whoracle?
<5> TBT: heh
<4> didnt I read somewhere that Sun is going to start bundling and optimizing a free db with solaris?
<5> I think I remember seeing summat like that on Reg Developer
<4> hahahah this ia funny stuff
<4> http://web.archive.org/web/20050203012356/http://www.apple.com/macmini/graphics.html
<4> Lock the Target
<4> Or one 3D game. Go ahead, just try to play Halo on a budget PC. Most say they.re good for 2D games only. That.s because an .integrated Intel graphics. chip steals power from the CPU and siphons off memory from system-level RAM. You.d have to buy an extra card to get the graphics performance of Mac mini, and some cheaper PCs don.t even have an open slot to let you add one.
<5> heh.
<5> well, that was true of the HP my parents bought a few years ago... no AGP slot, and Intel integrated video
<4> hahahah yeah
<4> and look at the mac mini today
<4> intel integrated video.
<4> and no expansiobn
<5> indeed
<8> blah blah blah.
<4> I've never seen a HP without any expansion slots
<8> i still want one. :)
<5> it had *1* free PCI slot
<5> the other was the WinModem
<4> whats a modem?
<8> TenBaseT: something that poor people use to get to foodstamps.gov
<5> can someone educate me on British slang? what's a "blagger"?
<4> blag Verb. To lie, or use clever talk with profit as an objective, to wheedle or persuade for gain. E.g."I blagged a lift to work with my sister but had to get the bus home."
<4> Noun. 1. A con, a 'scam'.
<4> blag artist Noun. A person with a reputation for using clever talk for self gain.
<4> blagger Noun. See 'blag artist'.
<5> ah
<4> blaps Noun. Diarrhoea, the illness.
<4> blatts Noun. Diarrhoea, the illness. E.g."I daren't leave the house, I've got the blatts."
<5> hahahahahahah
<6> So that's where Blatt's Beer got it's name. . .
<5> wow... rumours that Oracle may acquire Zend
<0> KF: around?
<9> Tamahome_: Oracle is looking to throw money away as of late, it seems
<9> Tamahome_: They were looking to buy us too, according t a rumor a few months back
<5> wlfy: heh
<10> wlfshmn: who's you?
<6> this channel. Oracle wants to buy this channel. Larry needs a place to spout off without fear of being kickbanned. ;)
<5> hahahahahahahah
<5> Ka-bar++
<10> LOL
<11> man, I should have stayed in bed today
<12> what a cluster****
<5> heya Hans
<13> Strider: that bad huh?
<13> today was **** for me too
<12> first thing, my alarm clock fails to go off, so I miss breakfast.. then I run out the door, forgetting my room key, and my p*** to get on base.
<12> so I go and get that, make it there.. we go through things normally... but as I'm working with our system, I discover that the transmitter on our satellite dish is stuck on... this means it's unsafe to work with it, and we can't go through the standard satellite access procedure.
<12> so we had to cancel our satelite time for today... not only that, an option that they purchased has not been enabled, and we need to get the license file from the manufacturer in the UK
<14> I installed SuSE and I partially set up the network, It's a home network through a router with 3 PCs, and I manage the access the other PCs and the page of the router, however I cannot use the Internet connection, any site that has info on configuring the settings for internet via a router, or anyone in here knows anything about it
<15> Nik0s: Is your router a WAP as well? Does it have "mac filtering", and if so, have you turned it on?
<15> If you have MAC filtering enabled, have you added your SuSE box's MAC to the router so it can access it?
<15> siglite: Wanna come be our Exchange whore?
<16> how do you choose which linux to use out of all the distributions available?
<14> I'm logging to the router to check now
<15> b1999: http://www.distrowatch.com
<16> yea once again..the site if just filled with info..too much info
<14> I know that I have to set up manually my local IP address and enter the DNS servers manually also for the network configuration
<0> b1999: where's the problem?
<0> b1999: read on the major distros and choose one that fits what you need.
<16> thi'm using fedora 4 right now
<16> is that good?
<10> b1999: it's not like there's a clear choice... most of us only settled with a distribution after trying quite a few of them
<16> ya i know...
<10> b1999: and some people keep using different distributions for different purposes
<16> fedora seems to be ok for me..i'm a beginner somewhat.
<14> I think I don't have MAC filtering
<0> b1999: your questions are senseless..
<0> b1999: is a distro good just because *I* like it?
<16> yoz; no...but if you're experienced and it works for you then obviously you would like it
<14> Because when I log on to windows I enter each address manually (local IP, DNS) and I don't do anything with the MAC
<0> b1999: I used view and worked.. I suggest you do the same.
<0> b1999: there again.. read on the major distros choose one or two, give it a try and see which one you like best. Most of us are used to debian in here for example... on both desktop and server.
<16> i've noticed debian mentioned a lot in the channels
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