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<0> they throw out 70 years of combined exp., and then cry like a wuss when the lower priced help they retained can't figure out how **** works
<1> dogbert2: doesn't suprise me, they were probably the most expensive staff.
<2> man
<2> we have "the bobs" at my office right now.
<0> whyzzyrd...yeah, and now that it's been a bad month, they are literally drowning on all levels...
<2> I **** you not. It's the bobs.
<2> his name is even bob.
<3> hah
<2> and we're doing this ****ing waste of time bull**** "process streamlining" stuff that basically boils down to a ****load of worthless meetings and him getting a bunch of consulting dollars.
<2> so "the bobs" pissed me off pretty good the other day.
<1> siglite: We do quite a bit of that.
<1> siglite: pisses me off no end
<0> siglite, i'm doing some consulting...heh
<2> he stated in a room full of people "expertise is commoditized. You can always buy expertise. It's sales and people skills that matter."
<2> at which point I nearly stood up and said "yeah, if that's the case, I'm sure the development team will gladly hand over the development projects to the sales team. And they can manage the firewalls from now on. Good luck replacing us."
<0> siglite, all departments look at IT staff as useless (except when **** is br0k3n)
<2> I swear the guy is catbert.
<2> the development and net. eng. teams have been calling him "the bobs" for about three weeks now.
<1> dogbert2: no, even then we're useless, because we let it break.
<2> I might change his name to catbert.
<0> yeah, whyzzrd...<shrug>
<0> s/catbert/mangina/
<1> One of my colleagues was just away on holiday.
<1> We "fixed" his b0rk network connection that he was complaining about by supergluing a specially procured bright pink cable between the wall and his PC.
<1> We left a note saying his old cable wasn't camp enough.
<4> "camp"?
<5> wlf, whyz
<1> wlfshmn: erm, probably easiest if you read it as "gay", but it's not quite.
<6> wlfshmn: slang for "overtly homo***ual behavour" - although some camp commedians are straight, but do it for the laughs
<7> HAHAHAHHA
<8> hii
<7> siglite: dude dude dude
<1> DaveHowe: ta. I was getting in a mess trying to explain that.
<7> siglite: crash.net uses query string params to ASP pages for datbase queries
<9> hm. time for me to mess about with ZFS in a while.
<7> siglite: as like part of the sql statement...
<1> DaveHowe: this is our colleague that has a portrait of the queen on his wall.
<8> haze somebody from here fc5 test 3 (fc 4,92) ?
<1> DaveHowe: and is obsessionally tidy. And colour-coordinates things. Like he has his "Blue" "Red" and "Green" PC's. Every light on each is of the colour specified.
<1> DaveHowe: he spent hours modding the cases to all look perfectly the same, he's ported the vents on the front for airflow.
<8> haze somebody from here fc5 test 3 (fc 4,92) ?
<10> holas nesecito ayuda con linux
<1> matias26: english
<11> matias26: i think you want #linuxlatino
<10> no
<1> matias26: or try #linuxlatino
<10> good bye
<9> hmm, oddity. I think I have a cl***ic case of b0rk hardware
<1> Lion-O: what's up?
<1> Lion-O: cables not pink enough?
<6> whyzzyrd: its a pity those are additive primes - you could have gummed a colour filter over the light :)
<9> whyzzyrd: 200Gb software raid1 which b0rks when re-sync is about 7%, very annoying
<1> Lion-O: duff disk I expect
<7> whyzzyrd: you do java crap right?
<9> aye
<1> schitzo: define do?
<7> whyzzyrd: program java crap?
<11> hehe
<7> whyzzyrd: better yet, have you ever usedjgroups?
<1> schitzo: I'm not a java monkey. I code only if I absolutely have to.
<7> s/edjg/ed jg/
<7> whyzzyrd: then nevermind
<1> schitzo: I expect #opennms on freenode would find you some good java programmers.
<7> I'll just wander over to #java her ein a second and ask
<7> usually the undienet java folks haven't been that helpful unless it's a cross pollination from in here too
<1> schitzo: the opennms guys have always been good to me when I was trying to make their stuff go.
<1> schitzo: They are a decent bunch, and if one of them has a little time, and you're not asking stupid questions, they do help..
<1> schitzo: much like here really
<7> whyzzyrd: it's not NMS stuff though. more messaging.
<1> schitzo: indeed, but java they can program in their sleep.
<7> whyzzyrd: heh
<1> schitzo: and you should look at opennms.
<7> whyzzyrd: for cache cluster consistency?
<1> schitzo: er
<1> schitzo: no, for what NMS'en do.
<1> Lion-O: at least it's raid-1, which you can recover from either disk no?
<7> whyzzyrd: heh, yeah. I've looked at it before. I'm on something else at the momement though
<7> whyzzyrd: I have ADD when it comes to projects
<9> whyzzyrd: yeah, nothing wrong. just annoying
<1> Lion-O: yeah, but it ****s. It's like when a disk failed here at home the other week. a right PITA, but I got all the data I wanted off it.
<1> Lion-O: the wife's still using her lappy instead of the desktop. I never got around fixing it.
<12> grrr...$boss still does not have the VPM set up from my place to the office yet
<9> whyzzyrd: hehe ;) Well, it seems I'll be having to bring $customer the bad news. But first I'm doing some more tests since the disks seemed to withstand a few tests.
<13> keep the disks cooler :)
<14> whyzzyrd: lol. That's the other machine set up now. I'm off to lunch.
<1> Lion-O: If you recover the data elsewhere, you could try re-initalizing.
<1> Viking667: heh, I'm off to sleep
<15> hi
<15> i've a huge network (more than 200 desktop) i wanna mesure the bandwidth usage for all of it (snmp is enabled by default) wonder which tools is gonna handle it better
<15> rrdtool, mrtg ... ,any advices ?
<11> nay: have a look at mrtg or rrdtool
<11> oh, i see you already know about them ;)
<11> there's another one called iptraf which either uses rrdtool, or uses rrds at least...
<1> nay: or opennms if you want to drill down to cpu and memory usage on the desktops
<15> i need a remote stuff, iptraf works localy
<15> i m using nagios
<15> but it's trafic plugins are a little bit bad
<1> nay: why do you need to know this information? Surely you can graph the uplink ports on the switches.
<11> nay: ok look at rrdtool or opennms as whyzzyrd suggested.. i don't think mrtg is scaleable enough for production use on a network that size, myself
<1> Cynic: I've mrtg on many many interfaces
<15> no i need trafic on each interface my switsh are a basic one
<1> nay: opennms will give you what you want, but managed switches are the way forward really.
<1> Cynic: You just have to not have all of the snmp polls going out at the same time.
<11> whyzzyrd: i'm thinking more of maintenance of mrtg.cfg, etc..
<15> whyzzyrd: i ve already an NMS (nagios) i just need the to know the bandwidth usage !
<7> nay: can also look at Cacti
<11> whyzzyrd: mind you, the setup here is very manual and ridiculous... it probably doesn't apply to most sites
<1> nay: if your NMS won't tell you this in an integrated manner, your NMS ****s g0ats.
<15> cacti can't be used on my SID, i ve a conflict package :(
<15> why: Nagios isn't so bad trust me :)
<15> it just need some times to get it working , things i really miss
<1> nay: I'll not trust you. If nagios was that good, it'd do SNMP performance stats, graphing, and reports.
<12> christ almighty...why in the hell do windows and linux use differnt jacks on my soundcard for lineout?
<12> everytime I reboot to the other OS, I gotta switch the jack around
<7> Steakk: you have to jack off your sound card?
<1> Steakk: probably because you're not p***ing the right incantations to the soundcard driver module in linux. (or for the right, read the same).
<6> driver differences I imagine. see if the driver has a config switch for that
<15> well, it notifies,makes a pretty maps, handle 100s of nodes without pb ...what to ask more !
<15> i've tried HPopenviewn Opmanager, What'sUp ... all ****s
<7> Steakk: or linux just hates you
<12> whyzzyrd: I was googlin for that when you said it...there has to be a module string to p*** along
<12> schitzo: pfft
<1> nay: no, you ****. If you can't get HP openview to do what you want, you've not read the fine manual enough.
<1> nay: I've only ever trialled openview, but I couldn't find anything I wanted to do that it couldn't.
<1> nay: what I couldn't do was afford it, and the minimum hardware spec it demanded.
<15> anyway, i prefer Nagios much more , i got this as a conclusion
<1> nay: For my site, Openview on Solaris demanded a fully loaded E3500.
<6> nagios rocks
<1> nay: but you're here, asking for something it doesn't do. We tell you a handful of ways, and you tell us that nagios is the best, it's what you're using, but it won't do what you want. Hence, it's not the right choice for you. Is it?
<7> whyzzyrd: stop tryign to be logical dagnabit
<1> schitzo: logic is the root of all problemsolving.
<4> yeah! You confuse our users. ;)
<15> u know what , just for this i ll run it on nagios, and show u the results on that chan
<15> Nagios powa
<9> 'you'
<1> schitzo: that and a good dose of gut instinct.
<15> thnx whyzzyrd :D
<7> whyzzyrd: and a swift smack with a 2x4
<7> hah
<7> give the man a donut and look what happens.
<1> schitzo: one swift smack by 2x4 applied
<7> whyzzyrd: oh yeah, blame that on me.
<1> schitzo: ;-P
<9> he's putting his powah to gut use ;-)
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