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<0> And then someone who doesn't have internal expertise, and/or problems
<0> So basically it's a bit limited market :)
<1> berekely-database2...how are ya?
<2> PolarWolf: there are still a surprisingly large number of firms out there with netware servers that need support. we have contracts from about 20% of them...
<1> (ie db2)
<0> DaveHowe: Yeah, but how many of them actually need much support :)
<0> DaveHowe: Generally it just runs
<3> ummmm, fine...back at my place now, was house sitting overnight for my brother...fixed up the wireless stuff at his place, so coverage is good downstairs and upstairs...
<0> Serving printers and files like there's no tomorrow.
<2> PolarWolf: given how many obits a typical edirectory struture will accumulate if a node drops dead? quite a few
<4> PolarWolf: e-directory/NDS blows up if a gnat farts
<1> you just wanted wifi porn on the ****ter...adnit it
<1> admit*
<3> naww...
<2> but yeah - normally novell just runs and runs, and you can't knock it over with a hammer
<0> whyzzyrd: Never really had that problem :)
<2> well, unless its clustered and you know how to make icmp packets :)
<0> whyzzyrd: But interesting way of wording :)
<4> PolarWolf: If you lose a server in a replica ring, all hell breaks loose.
<0> whyzzyrd: Can't say I share that experience
<2> whyzzyrd: actually, only a little hell breaks loose. if you lose the master replica now....
<0> And we've had 3 of the damn things running for ages
<3> you'll hafta promote someone else to take over master duties :)
<2> ok, so AD ****s more, but that still leaves plenty of room for edirectory to ****
<0> But hey, just because I never saw the problem doesn't mean it doesn't exist
<0> DaveHowe: If you apply plenty of KISS, AD will be as reliable as NDS
<2> all NOS ****, all DS ****, all hardware ****s
<2> the only question is really how much, and ****age tolerance levels
<0> I don't think we've ever had AD downtime since it came operational, two years ago
<0> We had our share of policy ****ups though, but that's because of some undocumented features, MS breaking its own claims about everything being SID based and incompetent administration
<0> Nothing undoable.
<2> you go around believing vendor claims?
<0> Only had to use adsiedit once
<1> grrr....popups on an iPAQ ****
<0> DaveHowe: No. I just get reminded every now and then about *why* I shouldn't
<2> s/on an iPAQ //
<5> Hi, I just got a new external HDD and am searching for the "right way"(tm) to set it up for mainly backup purposes. I'm tempted to use LVM but I fear little chance to get my data back if I should ever mess up the lvm-layer, as it shall be splattered all over the disc :-S Any thoughts/suggestions?
<0> tuxlifan: Yeah, Just mkfs the thing, and tar things over to it.
<2> tuxlifan: fat32
<6> tuxlifan: unless you need multiple partitions on it, i fail to see why lvm comes into the picture
<6> or if you want to expand one virtual disk to span two drives in the future
<2> OxD: even then. just slap fat32 on it and be done with it.
<6> why in gods name use fat32?
<0> It's a backup device, not something you want to use in a live volume like LVM would
<2> OxD: compatability. its a backup device, and there isn't much in the world can't read/write fat32
<6> doesn't fat32 have a 2G file size limit?
<0> Yeah
<2> yup
<6> so its completely useless for any decent sized backups
<5> OxD: well, I need/want multiple partitions because I'd also like to use it from OS X, which I occasionally need to reboot into :-S
<0> tuxlifan: So use a compatible filesystem
<0> FAT32
<6> tuxlifan: well lvm doesn't let you do that
<6> ok i see where fat32 came from
<0> FAT is a lot. But compatible is definitly among that.
<5> PolarWolf: yes, but I thought that separating the backup from the occasional daily-use stuff might be good?
<6> but doesn't osX support ext3 or something unixish that linux does too?
<0> tuxlifan: *shrug* depends on your own diligence in how you deal with the data
<2> OxD: yeah. and you can load a ext2 driver for windoze too. but fat32 can be read in dos, windows, linux, bsd, osx, os9...
<0> tuxlifan: Besides, I won't even start how wrong it is to 1) mix live data with backup data on the same device and 2) even consider data on a disk a "backup"
<5> PolarWolf: 1) well, good point :-) 2) that "backup" is only as a preparation and 'I don't want to get out that huge CD pile' stage for CD-backup (and DVD as soon as I get one) *smile*
<7> odd...there is a wifi network in the area ... i can ONLY connect to it if I am in a certain 2x2 foot square in my living room ... i cant even see this network anywhere else in the apartment
<0> Steakk: Could be a directional antenna
<7> true, true
<7> BUT
<7> if they are smart enough to know how to use a directional attena, wouldnt they be smart enough to at least put a WEP/WPA key on it? :)
<0> Steakk: Maybe it's by design *shrug*
<3> Steakk...stealing signals again huh?
<0> Steakk: There are people who are willingly running an open network
<2> Steakk: maybe it is literally in the flat below you, and the arial points up so there is a lobe there?
<0> I do, for one
<7> DaveHowe, below me is my shop .. and its not there
<7> pw: possibly
<7> db2: always
<0> If my ISP reports me to the authorities on the accusation that I've been downloading kiddie pron, I can always claim someone else hijacked my connection
<0> If I protect access, I can't
<7> if you protect it, you should never be accused...
<0> Steakk: Depends on whether or not I was downloading kiddy pr0n :)
<7> i hope you aint, heh
<0> Of course you can replace the kiddie pr0n with whatever else controversial material
<7> kitty porn? heh
<0> Bomb building plans, music, moviez, warez, etc
<2> g0at...
<3> sh33p
<3> l4mb
<0> c0w
<0> h0rs13
<7> OxD...
<7> OxD porn would be controversial
<0> Steakk: Uh...I'd rather look at doorposts ****ing
<7> LoL'
<2> not my cow... oh bugger. I forgot to visit the bookshop today
<2> is l4mb child pr0n for sh33p lovers?
<3> egad :)
<4> Strider: you still in the ***hole of nowhere?
<8> tu quelquun qui parle francais?
<0> AshCrow: #linuxfr, maybe
<8> thanks :P
<9> cable.rogers.com is a US ISP aint it?
<7> yeah
<2> yeah
<10> whyzzyrd: yes
<10> Bjprn-: no, it's Canadian
<10> Rogers is the cable company for the eastern half of Canada
<10> western half is Shaw
<10> (they're also a cell phone company)
<7> so, i hear that TX dont have broadband per-se, but more of a `latino net`, where you give the data to a mexican, who runs it to its destination via an `underground TCP/IP railroad`....now, if that is true, does that mean if the mexican sees a walmart, that you will endure packetloss?
<10> boo, hiss
<7> still early yet
<7> its only 11:34
<10> Steakk: of cousre, if it's tequila, it has built in work detection and removal
<7> heh
<0> I wish FTP would just die a silent death
<2> it ****s, but the alternatives **** more
<0> So find something new
<2> that would **** too :)
<0> Yeah, because the larger the infrastructure to change the harder it is and the slower it goes
<9> FTP is fast
<0> Look at ipv6.
<9> it simply needs to be secured..
<2> Bjprn-: all the secure forms **** even more
<2> ftps really, really ****s
<2> sftp is dog slow, and loads cpu excessively
<0> FTP ****s because to be really fast and such, it needs *two* ports which are annoying to forward and NAT
<2> PolarWolf: PASV?
<0> Doesn't always work. And like I said, for ftp to run well you want active.
<2> PASV is no slower or less reliable than active - unless you are using a browser as a client, of course
<0> DaveHowe: Bingo :)
<0> DaveHowe: Which in this case is the problem at hand
<2> PolarWolf: tell them, if they want to use a web browser, connect to a website :)
<0> DaveHowe: Haha
<11> !seen Jemand
<7> ya know, its funny ... myspace.com has those idiots that auto-generate accounts, then in their profile somewhere have links to a porn site ... then they go around, adding EVERY MALE that subscribes to myspace to their friends list .. the males accept the friend request, and start postin stuff like `thanks for lettin me be your friend!", or "What kinda things are you into, etc?" thinking its a ****in real profile and not a pron ad...****in people are idiots
<12> Jemand: wtf was that?
<0> Looks like most browsers will honor the server's wishes, so I'll tell the guy to look into the server config to force PASV
<11> yoz, i tried to see how i quit last time
<12> Jemand: I'm afraid that doesn't work..
<11> looks like it, yeah
<12> 06:50 Jemand (tux@vip.rulex.net) has quit (Ping timeout)
<12> satisfied? ;)
<11> yes cause i had a nice friday :-p
<12> good.
<7> http://www.steakk.com/funnies/dog.jpg
<3> gawd, whatta picture
<7> i aint racist, but that **** is just funny
<7> http://www.steakk.com/funnies/twins.jpg <-- and they wonder why the world thinks of them as sluts?
<2> Steakk: I would think of them as welcome in my bedroom anytime ;)
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