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<0> UGH
<1> D-side: absolutely. And I thought applicable to the convo as well.
<2> Those arent clocks.
<0> i'm going to ****ing kill him
<0> this idiot muppet is getting on my last nerve holy christ
<0> "why should I use your hosting service when I can get it for $8/mo elsewhere?"
<1> D-side: uh, muppet? How many little white peices of paper did you eat?
<0> "we dont have popups"
<0> siglite: he looks like a retarded muppet, like they might use on sesame street to introduce the concept to children
<1> lol
<2> which concept? popups?
<2> hosting?
<2> retards?
<1> TenBaseT: retards, I think
<2> hahah
<1> TenBaseT: or maybe surrealistic poo.
<2> <muppet> THIS IS A NEW WINDOW ITS ON TOP
<2> BOTTOM!
<2> TOP!
<2> BOTTOM!
<2> ITS A POPUP!
<2> hahah that would be some evil muppet ****.
<0> haha sounds like you're flipping a coin to see which role you get tonight
<1> D-side: HAHAHAHAH
<2> ahha yeah I figured one of you would make that connection.
<0> you put it right over the plate man.
<1> D-side: and being a catcher, you couldn't resist?
<2> D-side: oh great, here come the baseball analogies. I'm not letting you pitch.
<2> hahahahahaha
<0> man. paybacks are mother****er.
<0> FYM
<3> cp /dev/hda /dev/hdc will do the trick if hdc is as big or bigger than hda
<4> I want to clone /dev/hda to /dev/hdc, so whenever hda crashes, i can boot with hdc
<4> safemode hda is 41,1GB, hdc is 40GB
<5> polsin: then either of cp or dd would work, except for booting, where you'd need dd.
<4> dd copy empty space too, i don't want that ..
<4> Viking667 nope, it will not work, hda is 1,1GB bigger than hdc
<5> polsin: uhmm, what do you think is ON a hard drive aside from files?
<5> polsin: mrm. Then you have only one option. cp and lilo/grub the drive.
<4> I only use 5GB, but dd also copies the free space
<3> cp rysnc etc etc
<3> plenty of tools
<5> And you have the problem of: what happens when your hda files no longer fit in your hdc?
<3> just aptitude search backup
<4> safemode there are too much tools :)
<4> that is why im asking here ..
<4> Viking667, nope, the problem is, when i run dd, i got 'no free space left on hdc'.. because hdc has 1,1GB more (free) space
<5> rsync might be better in the respect of it only applies changes since the last run.
<5> polsin: hang on - which drive is bigger? hda? Or hdc?
<4> hda = 41,1GB
<4> hdc = 40GB
<5> so hdc is SMALLER, not bigger.
<4> jep
<4> but I only use ~5GB
<5> yeah. That's what happens with dd. ya get the lot. Use something aside from dd.
<4> yes, there are too much tools i can choose from .. that is the problem :)
<3> he doesn't wanna do the research
<5> yeesh.
<4> safemode you think so ?
<4> this is ALSO a part of my research
<6> hah
<5> polsin: if you've done ANY research, you would surely have SOME idea...
<4> yes, imagepart, rdiff-backup etc
<5> imagepart is probably like dd, which you don't want.
<6> synapsis: what does your research tell you?
<4> well, i can make on both disks a partition (35GB), and copy only the partition
<4> Sagoro to do more reseatch =)
<5> you want to record the files, but not necessarily their position on disc. Unfortunately, you also have to record the partition table, and the partition sector code.
<7> Sagoro: That like plants, the Sagoro reproduce a***ually.
<6> synapsis: that's good information, thanks
<4> Viking667 that is my weakpoint, i don't know much about part tables or boot records
<5> polsin: how do you get the drive bootable? Repeat and rinse on other drive.
<0> back.
<5> polsin: oh, and you HAVE to do it while the second drive is in the first drive's place, or it won't work.
<4> so dd won't work for me, also partimage won't work for me ..
<5> polsin: i.e. copy files over, burn a rescue CD/bootable CD (Knoppix, Ubuntu, INSERT, your-distro-CD), shut comp down, swap drives, boot CD, mount drive rw, chroot to drive's root partition, run lilo. Simple.
<5> Rinse and repeat each time you change kernels.
<5> polsin: if you understand all that, I can then explain a gotcha that caught me out.
<4> I understand yes :)
<4> usually use knoppix for it
<5> then, when you mount the drive rw, make sure there are no --o nodev,noexec options on it when you do mount.
<5> else when you get inside the chroot, you won't be able to lilo the drive.
<4> hmmkay, because of noexec?
<5> no, because of nodev
<5> but noexec will not make things good either
<8> Viking667: obviously
<5> so it'll have to be: mount -t ext3 -o rw /dev/hda1 /mnt/hda1
<4> i'll note that :)
<5> Jostein_: that caught me out, the nodev one. Knoppix mounts hard drive partitions nodev. took me a couple of hours to figure that out.
<5> Right. It's time I made lunch.
<6> WTF are you doing?!?!
<8> WTF are we doing?
<8> *grin*
<8> evening
<9> hey Jostein_
<8> hey Cynic
<8> slow night? as usual? :P
<9> naw
<9> busy midday
<9> billing run today, and apathetic, soon-to-be-redundant workmates not making life easy
<8> I see
<8> Ive had a pretty slack week so far
<8> Been attending a course in MS "Sharepoint"
<8> some portal crap stuff :P
<8> Not really what I consider "advanced stuff" that cant be handled with a hangover :P
<9> heh
<9> i like free stuff
<10> D-side, eh?
<6> home
<0> Ka-bar: hm?
<8> Cynic: anyway. Im in the coursing/tutoring business
<8> Cynic: afaik I've traded MS Biztalk for MS Sharepoint. Which is a -good- trade :P
<8> Cynic: Might as well earn it while I have time
<11> what exactly is Sharepoint, anyways?
<12> Tamahome: MS Portal server
<11> ah
<8> Tamahome: some free component that comes with win2k3 server
<11> oh
<8> Tamahome: covers 99% of your portal needs
<8> Tamahome: unless you want to customize it. then it is a hell of HTML+CSS from the deepest levels of hell
<11> CSS with IE is *always* hell
<8> I mean... Imagine CSS used as the old table-style formatting, mixed with oldtable-style formatting and 20 stylesheets
<8> all stored in DB, so its uneditable
<13> I need help with an issue, my product supplyer is telling me their version of custom Linux OS would have to be reprogrammed to run a web browser, is there any web browser that if installed on this said OS version of Linux is fully self contained and would run no matter the changes to the original code of Linux ?
<8> Its a OK product by all means, but customizable it's not :P
<14> SPY-v-SPY: get a sane distro, problem solved.
<8> SPY-v-SPY: you have two choices. get a sane distro w/virtual machines. or ditch the retarded product
<13> can't change the OS, it's specific to Squirrel Point of Sale Software
<3> the kernel has nothing to do with if you can run a webserver or not
<11> why the hell do you want to run a web browser on a Point of Sale device?
<13> To connect a second software designed for Internet
<14> SPY-v-SPY: so its not Linux anymore, simple.
<8> SPY-v-SPY: I see you missed my point about "virtual machines", but I'll take it you dont really want help
<14> SPY-v-SPY: go back to your supplyer, find another channel to troll in, have a good life. Bye.
<13> not true jostein
<14> ROFL: http://www.realvnc.com/pipermail/vnc-list/2002-July/032070.html
<14> really, this has got to be some pos.
<14> *from a Linux point of view*. Don't forget we're in #linux here.
<14> and since that software talks about being Windows based...
<8> SPY-v-SPY: keep uit to the channel, thank you
<13> np
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