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<0> CC is cheap if you always pay back at the end of the month...if you don't, they rob you
<1> yea they do
<0> and I don't pay for the overdraft unless I use it
<2> the best way is to get both.. ;) I do so.
<0> and it's really minimal even if I do...as long as I'm in the agreed amount
<0> I have it so there's enough to pay an unexpected bill if I need to
<3> smsie: yup. owing money on cards is a mugs game.
<0> if I had a CC, I know I'd use it all the time
<3> smsie: like a scooter missing incident?
<2> considering the fact that I pay ~20 EUR / year only for my cc plus insurance it's quite nice.
<0> whyzzyrd: yep. I went about 400 into overdraft that month...was the first time since I got the overdraft
<2> DaveHowe: heh
<0> DaveHowe: you were unlunky in how long you were out of work, which didn't help *at all*
<4> yoz: was unemployed for over a year, paying my cc bills *with* my CC
<2> DaveHowe: oh well.. O_o
<4> smsie: seem to be setting in at the new place; that money should make a decent dent in it while keeping Becky in the manner to which she should be accustomed :)
<4> yoz: didn't help I split/divorced my wife not long before I lost my job, and had all that crap to pay for...
<0> DaveHowe: if you can, I'd keep living at not much above what you were until you got at least some of the CC paid off
<0> DaveHowe: putting "driving license" way up the priority list would be good too
<4> smsie: definitely, on both counts
<4> smsie: plan is not to raise our overall standard of living (so netto for food, no special expendatures outside normal) until the CC is at least six monthe better off
<1> how bad off is the CC?
<0> DaveHowe: at that rate, how long would it be to clear the CC?
<4> smsie: but having an extra 20-30 ukp a week to spare for becky is going to make a lot of difference - and that's not a drop in the bucket
<4> fredk: you don't want to know, trust me. *I* don't want to know....
<1> haha
<0> DaveHowe: I could be uncharitable and suggest a job, but I won't...
<4> smsie: I suggest it to her frequently - but she has no usable skills. I do suggest she get herself on a training course...
<1> DaveHowe, no usable skills at all?
<1> haha
<3> DaveHowe: she got no arms n legs then?
<0> DaveHowe: she could stack shelves...
<3> DaveHowe: I see plenty of people with "no usable skills" getting paid reasonable money to staff checkouts.
<3> and in studentsville, they're even cute, some of em.
<4> whyzzyrd: yeah. its on the game plan, her doc has started to spring for anti-arth drugs for her, so her limbs are getting back to normal again
<4> whyzzyrd: keeping an eye open for that sort of job for her, or shop ***t in the local stores
<1> Yea, something like that should work
<1> She got any interests?
<4> other than the Tagging? not noticably
<5> bwhahaha http://www.itswalky.com/comics/20060401nightmare.gif
<1> none?
<4> trying to get her to walk that path - she is doing some web design training, given she *is* bloody good at the tagging thing
<1> if tagging is what I think it is, isnt like, kinda illegal?
<5> DaveHowe: tagging? there is money in vandalism now? ;)
<0> fredk-: "tagging": making logo type things for websites
<1> Ahh
<1> DaveHowe, she draws well?
<4> wlfshmn: Tagging is taking one or more static images, combining them using PSP or Photoshop filters, then adding a name for use as a online "chop"
<4> fred: dunno, its all done with prexisting images on pc.
<1> DaveHowe, artist for ILM? :)
<5> DaveHowe: I know. It's also writing your tag every you can get at with a can of spraypaint ;)
<4> wlfshmn: I know, but that's an americanism. I don't think I have ever seen the phrase used outside of the states - banksey isn't called a tagger, for example
<5> DaveHowe: banksey is more than a tagger I would say, he atleast has an agenda
<1> DaveHowe, you can go work for google and she can work for ilm ;)
<5> DaveHowe: And I'm not american, and first came into contact with tagging (that naughty kind) in .se, so it's gotta have some spread ;)
<1> wlfshmn, its used here too
<4> fred: no intention of jumping ship from current lot unless pushed. This was a just-in-the-nick-of-time role for me, and it looks like it could be fun
<1> Yeah
<4> fred: which to me is more important than getting a bigger paycheque and having to relocate
<1> DaveHowe, relocate is too much work
<1> though, i'd gradly relocate to hawaii from norway ;)
<1> gladly heh
<6> fredk-, try taking a consulting job in another state, keeping 2 apartments and commuting back and forth every weekend
<1> Ka-bar, sounds painful
<1> especially from hawaii ;)
<6> haha
<6> yeah, kinda hard to drive that.
<5> Ka-bar: Well. It's your choice. You couldg ive up on one appartment. All you need to do is dump your gf ;)
<7> me to gf: "I love you"
<7> gf to me: "awww!"
<1> the nearest state from hawaii is like a 5 hour flight
<7> me to gf: "APRIL FOOLS now go do my laundry"
<6> wlfshmn, well, considering she's gonna be my wife in less than a month, I don't think that's gonna happen. And my kids are here in NH, too.
<7> she's a little unhappy.
<5> D-side: no **** ;)
<6> D-side, you *are* a rotten bastard. ;)
<5> D-side: maybe you should question why she took the ink cartridge out of the printer before walking off with your laundry.
<5> Ka-bar: Once she is your wife, can't you relocate her to you insteaD? ;)
<7> as if i'd let her near my printer
<4> fred: this was the first decent job I even interviewed for in my current city for well over a year - jobs in the UK are bloody hard to get right now
<7> also, how ghetto do you think I am? inkjet? never under my roof.
<1> DaveHowe,yea, and if you like it..its all good :)
<6> wlfshmn, the problem would be lack of job opportunites for her where I am in nowheresville, NY
<6> and I still have the issue of my kids being up here in NH
<6> but, this is a consulting gig and won't last forever, so we can hang tough for a while and rake in the ca$h while it lasts.
<6> reason I took it in the 1st place is $65/hr...
<1> Ka-bar, hard to argue $65/hr
<6> to hack FreeBSD... yeah.
<4> fred: well, they are introducing a *lot* of microsoft into the local mix - going from a netware-only shop to a full blown Exchange 2K installation; that's on a large-national scale, but unclustered... yet
<5> Ka-bar: Ah, yeah, thats a good motivator.
<1> DaveHowe, yea, how is clustering of exchange?
<4> fred: so getting to play with a lot of 2K3 servers,
<4> fred: dunno. we are going standalone so far, but on SAN, so that clustering is an option if we go that route later on
<5> DaveHowe: Can't say I mourn the loss of a netware install, but replacing it with exchange sounds like a large step sideways
<4> wlfshmn: reconsider. novell is morphing into linux; three four years from now, only legacy installations will be still running the cl***ic kernel
<4> wlfshmn: linux only shops by the back door :)
<4> ok, its SUSE rather than debian, but still....
<6> lots of ssh attacks from china and korea last night...
<4> Ka-bar: yeah. got sick of that, stuck a filter rule to limit sshd to just the ranges I dial in from
<6> DaveHowe, yeah, I did that for a while when I knew which addresses I would coming in from.
<4> Ka-bar: I *only* use my sshd from work, and that is a fixed ip, more or less
<3> Ka-bar: I just put up with it.
<3> Ka-bar: I restrict root logins, and I have only a few user accounts on the machine, and make sure they have strong p***words.
<6> I know that port knocking isn't perfect, but it should at least cut down significantly on the 100KB logwatch emails I get every morning...
<3> Ka-bar: why don't you just blackhole .cn and .kr at the router?
<4> Ka-bar: considered just running it on a nonstandard port? the major scan attacks seem to come in just on port 22...
<6> had a m***ive dictionary attack running last night
<3> Ka-bar: and .ro while you're at it.
<6> heh.
<6> but that would require me to do more work, to identify and blackhole those address ranges. :)
<7> Ka-bar: i WONDER where that might have originated from
<6> D-side, heh... not unless my corpulent ex-sister-in-law AS/400 wizard has learned how to control botnets. :-D
<6> which I kinda doubt...
<6> hmmm
<3> Ka-bar: if you just block by cl***-c every time you see one, you'll probably have a decent range built up in no time.
<7> that woman is really designated cl*** C
<7> :D
<6> no, she's cl***less
<7> no argument here
<8> re
<7> heh
<8> mine was successful for about 17 years :)
<8> whyzzyrd: how long have you been married?
<3> nearly 3 years, but we've been together about ten.
<8> good, wait for another 10 years for it to start going sour
<3> ok
<7> well
<7> what about our parents?
<7> mine have been together for 30 years.
<7> that counts doesnt it?
<8> parents don't count, they're a different life form altohether
<8> altogether
<7> no argument.
<3> heh
<7> you win.
<7> i was justtrying to make whyzzyrd feelbeter ):
<3> they have different values
<7> :) even
<8> hehheh
<3> D-side: don't worry about it.
<9> my amsn show error ip-restrict-nat ...
<7> boo hoo
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