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<0> Pilum, can u please give me an example? I'm a novice here in this field :D
<1> Emphasis on "virtual machine"
<1> document.forms['formname'].elements['fieldname'].value = parent.document.someRef.innerHTML;
<2> yes I will do
<2> however what should I read on ? java server pages? java? java applets or javascript ? or a combination ?
<0> tx Pilum... I'll try that
<2> or java beans?
<3> java applets
<2> ManOnFire: java beans and java applets are different?
<1> Java in general I was thinking. And java applets yes.
<3> i dont know what r java beans :)) !
<2> you know Pilum?
<1> http://java.sun.com/products/javabeans/ http://java.sun.com/applets/
<2> applets are cool
<2> they work on the client side?
<1> Yes!
<2> microsoft have activeX
<2> ?
<3> the only problem with them is that they take a lot of time to be loaded
<3> and not all the clients have java
<1> They can install java though.
<3> and actvivex works only on ie :(
<1> Just like Flash.
<3> yes sure
<3> ah what about flash ;)
<3> flash too is good
<1> Actually applets and flash can be compared easily.
<3> and maybe better than java
<1> Much the same thing. Only flash is easier to make graphical things in.
<1> "Better" is a question of what it's to be used for.
<3> sure
<1> Wohoo! Dave!
<3> but the most web appliacations dont need the sphisticated java
<4> Woo!
<2> its better to avoid them
<1> You don't know what you're talking about, VaranG|aN heh.
<1> If you want an irc client on your page it's the way to go if you ask me.
<3> the only thing that java is good for (now) r chat applications
<2> yes your right I never touched java applets
<1> Nonsense.
<3> on the client side !
<2> or worked with them
<2> I'll give them a try
<3> java is hard ;) i wish u a good luck :))
<2> well I heard java is similar to c#
<1> Lol
<1> Not by a long shot.
<2> syntax
<2> as in syntax
<1> Not by a long shot.
<3> maybe !
<3> but it's harder than c# anyway
<3> c# is easy compare to java
<2> what makes harder java than
<2> c#?
<1> They both have curly brackets. But other than that, the only thing they have in common is that they're run on a virtual machine.
<3> java had a lot of libraries
<1> Most languages do.
<2> because of that makes java harder than c# ?
<3> and the syntax too
<2> because of having more libraries?
<2> syntax?
<3> c# is made to be easy in use
<3> java is for the hard coders !
<2> but on what criteria your saying this
<2> ?
<1> That's the oversimplification of the day.
<3> just open a java applet and u will see the difference !
<4> Yeah!
<2> thats not an answer
<4> We all know Haskell is the best anyway.
<3> serach in google "java is hard" maybe u ll find more answers !
<2> lol
<2> bah
<3> i dont know i find it hard !
<2> yes but tell me something factual
<2> both c# and java are OO
<2> OOOOOO
<3> why microsoft made C# ?!
<1> Because they wanted a C-style language for .NET I guess.
<3> and an easier language
<1> Heh no.
<1> More like a rivaling language.
<1> Sun and Microsoft aren't exactly friends.
<2> lol
<3> and what people r searching for it ?
<2> Sun sued microsoft once for the J++
<1> Indeed.
<3> always the easier thing who gives u what u need
<2> and they won it
<2> now there's J#
<3> there is sth very good with java, it's a multiplatform language
<2> is it ?
<3> yes
<2> well .NEt is supposed to be
<2> in theory
<1> In theory it is, but not yet.
<3> it still dont work on unix i think !
<1> There is Mono.
<3> mono !
<2> Bono?
<2> :P
<3> there is some trojen in javascript do u know that !
<2> with javascript a chat can be made?
<2> do you know google's chat found in gmail ?
<2> what does that chat uses?
<3> ajax
<3> a technology called ajax
<2> yes ok
<2> I know that
<2> but
<1> There is no technology called ajax heh.
<3> he use xml
<3> yes !
<2> if they use ajax then they have to have a db
<1> Ajax is more like a word describing a collection of technologies.
<3> yes sure
<4> Haskell's the way forward, really.
<3> javascrit get some xml files ...
<2> yes i know
<2> so Pilum there has to be some db
<2> if using ajax style
<1> No there doesn't have to be any friggin db.
<1> When you use ajax you don't even have to store it.
<2> when you have a chat?
<2> how will the other guy/gal know?
<3> there is a db
<3> but there is a script who get informations from the db
<3> and change its to xml
<2> if you hava client ----- server ---- client
<2> the client must p*** to the server then to the client
<1> So?
<1> That doesn't mean you need a db.
<2> how will the other client see what the other client typed ?
<2> and vice versa
<2> what will the server do?
<1> Just store it in a file and p*** it on.
<2> ahh
<2> a text file?
<3> an xml file
<3> but it's a db anyway ;)
<2> why not a text file?
<1> Spot the xml lover heh.
<3> because u need a xml file to use ajax
<2> xml is nice
<2> well not exactly ManOnFire
<1> ManOnFire: No you don't.
<3> xml is better
<2> the xml communication is between the client and the server
<2> but the data can be stored on a text file
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