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<0> now my stuff in other editors becomes peppered with :w's and 1G's
<1> tried emacs too, but the curve was too steep. I just keep going back to textpad as "good enough"
<2> sukotto: once you get proficient with vi and learn some shortcuts and macros, you'll be flying around your files like you wouldn't believe
<1> yeah, that's my most common mistake with any editor. :wq
<0> i even type :wq instead of /part in irc ;)
<2> Tangram: heh yeah me too, especially when i'm forced to use a windows box
<2> hah
<1> expanding/collapsing code segments. now that makes my mouth water.
<0> :)
<2> yeah, i just found out about folds 1-2 months ago. now my files are filled with {{{ and }}}
<2> sukotto: give vi/vim/gvim another shot, and stick with it for a week+. you'll be glad you did
<1> I'm not totally happy with textpad right now. Am doing asp/javascript apps and it's a pain (especially writing asp fucntions that output javascript functions that do work :-)
<1> Pilum , sorry to go off /topic
<2> btw guys, i've got an on-topic question =P
<0> :)
<2> if i specify an html file like so to open a new window: document.open('foo.html'); and then write to the new window with document.write(), the contents of the new window are completely overwritten. why is that?



<0> i think you're looking for window.open() ?
<1> You might want to name the child window
<2> Tangram: ah yeah, typo
<0> hmm ok
<0> i don't generally use document.write(), but doesn't it overwrite the page contents?
<2> summary of my question: http://rafb.net/paste/results/f3CLyB93.html
<2> Tangram: so document.write() overwrites the contents of the target?
<0> i'm not 100% sure, as i don't generally use it, but that's my recollection
<2> Tangram: is there a way to append?
<0> well what i do is just use document.createTextNode('foo');
<0> and append the node into the DOM using element.appendChild()
<2> thanks, i'll google that
<2> btw, is that valid in ie5?
<0> yes
<2> sweet
<2> and firefox/opera too, i ***ume?
<0> yup
<3> document.write() clears the current document if called after window.onload has been triggered.
<0> http://www.quirksmode.org/dom/w3c_core.html
<3> Use DOM methods instead.
<3> Or even innerHTML
<0> there's your confirmation... ;)
<2> thanks. playing with it now
<2> can you include html code within createTextNode() ?
<0> hmm... if it works, it won't work the way you want. you need to use document.createElement('tagname')
<4> ppl> hi..._
<2> Tangram: i'm trying to append a whole block of html code to the end of an existing html page. is that possible, or do i have to break up the html block?
<0> the 'easiest' way would be to use innerHTML i guess
<0> document.body.innerHTML += 'string of new HTML to append'
<3> Hi ]stalker[
<3> As for editors I agree with fatbrain.
<2> Tangram: hrmm, i must be doing something wrong, because using innerHTML, my content isn't being written: var foobar = window.open('foobar.html', 'foobar'); foobar.document.body.innerHTML += 'extra content'; foobar.document.close();
<0> as an aside, why not just put the extra content straight into foobar.html?
<2> Tangram: it's dynamically generated
<0> ok
<0> well other than the obvious recommendation of using a server side language to generate it ;) let me think for a minute
<3> As could the document in the popup be. :-)
<3> foobar.document.close()?
<3> You haven't opened it heh.
<0> yah, i'm not sure about that part either
<5> anyone know how to print without scaling in ie7 ? or control the scalling
<2> Tangram: this is exactly what i'm doing: http://rafb.net/paste/results/M2UgEz10.html
<3> Line 4: receipt.document.body.innerHTML+='extra content';
<3> And drop line 5.
<2> Pilum: what about line 4?
<2> Pilum: i commented out line 5, but the same behaviour occurs
<3> I pasted the correction.
<3> Although a text string as a direct child of body isn't right.
<2> omg hah, why the heck do i have brackets around the text??! =P
<3> Beats me.
<5> IE7 is **** with .print();
<5> :@
<2> Pilum: with the change on line 4 and removal of line 5, "extra content" isn't written: http://rafb.net/paste/results/XsaBtJ54.html
<3> And no errors?
<5> Pilum you played with print scaling
<5> know ifits possile to turn off
<2> Pilum: unfortunately, no errors
<3> NeoFuture: No, I haven't and I don't know.
<2> Pilum: any other suggestions?
<3> I would do it serverside.
<2> Pilum: i think the reason innerHTML isn't working is because the page hasn't fully loaded yet. is there a way to wait until the page loads before setting .innerHTML?



<0> window.onload
<3> Yes.
<0> http://dean.edwards.name/weblog/2006/06/again/
<6> that is far too advance for him :)
<2> if i use var foo = window.open(..); should i end it with foo.close(); or something similar?
<0> ht311: fair enough
<2> heh
<0> litage: no. that will actually just close the popup
<2> ah right =P
<2> if i use var foo = window.open(); why should i note use foo.document.close(); ?
<3> Because you're not opening a document?
<0> those are unrelated functions. window.open() opens a new window. document.close() closes a document that's been previously opened by document.open() in order to use document.write()
<2> gotcha
<2> i guess i'll do this server-side. thanks for your help guys, i really appreciate it
<6> litage: you need to forget what you see about document.open .write and .close
<0> server side is definitely the best way to do it
<7> anyone who could tell me if I somehow can use the tab button as normal in html textboxes ??
<6> you need to handle the onkeyup for the tab key yourself, insert a tab character at the caret postion and cancel the event after
<8> intercept key #9 in onkeypress .... insert the character or spaces manually and return false
<7> alright, thank you! =)
<2> is it possible to make a submit button open a new window and post data to the new window's url?
<8> set target="_blank" in the form tag
<5> can you turn off headers and footers with CSS when printing
<9> Can javascript do dictionary arrays? Im ***uming no?
<9> Oh it can :D
<7> [Torgo] still cant get the tab function to work in text boxes; http://erxz.com/pb/1632
<10> hi
<3> NeoFuture: @media print
<2> [Torgo]: thanks for that!
<11> is there a way to delete a record when user left the page and going to another one?
<9> Isnt there a window.onunload?
<11> yeah but i want to conmbine with that php script that will delete record from db
<9> Yeah so ajax
<9> XMLHTTPRequest
<6> define "leaving" , and it is not a job for javascript anyway
<6> ***ume you know the user is going to another page of yours, you shoudl handle it on the serverside before serving the user the new page
<9> I was going to say something to that effect but ***umed it was too obvious... Im guessing the user is leaving for real
<11> i got "who is on this page right now" and i want that if user leaves it will delete him from the db
<9> There are better ways
<11> how
<9> E.g. Make 'right now' mean 'within the last 5 minutes'
<9> And then when you show the list, delete all records which havent had activity in 5 minutes or more
<11> and if user wants to chat with this user 1 on 1
<6> and need to send a heartbeat to the server once a while
<11> and user is not online right now
<6> then "attempting to connect .... failed"
<9> ^^
<11> but how he knows ?
<11> i cant ping thier ips
<6> well it really depends on how you do your chat
<11> i want to make chat 1 on 1
<11> like " there are 390 users in this page.. chat with one of them
<6> make it first, and you will have your answer along the way
<11> i did it
<11> but i got problem when user trying to chat with user that left the website 30 secounds ago
<11> got me?
<6> how you start your chat session?
<11> with php
<6> ....
<11> using mysql db to p*** the messages
<6> so the page keep on refreshing?
<9> :o
<11> yeah
<6> so if one of the user pages are not refreshing, then you consider the user is offline
<6> and tell the other user he is gone
<11> brb
<12> alert(treeID);
<12> alert(this.treeID);
<12> both lines are inside a method
<13> Hello AM1A`, sk8ing
<13> Hello ht311
<12> treeID is defined as a private property
<13> ht311 you use ASP.NET ?
<12> only the first function works


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