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<0> not at all
<1> i'm trying to make my own website from scratch that's all...
<1> i don't do coding jobs...
<2> Using a WYSIWYG editor can and will give you bad habits though.
<1> what sort of bad habits, pilum?
<2> You shouldn't even touch one until you've mastered both HTML and CSS.
<1> really?
<2> Bad markup and style habits.
<1> =/
<1> i'm using dreamweaver and i think it's sort of OK...
<2> If you aren't fully aware of the complexities of HTML and CSS, you cannot use a WYSIWYG with good result, even if it might look good at first glance.
<1> aww...
<1> a friend of mine (who IS a web developer/designer) recommended that to me... he said that could save me a lot of headaches...
<2> I've met very few designers who understand the complexities of HTML and CSS heh.
<1> they must be very good then...
<2> Mostly because people aren't aware of or care about the advantages of good markup.
<1> well i guess i'm in the "aren't aware" group...
<3> mmm.. hot chocolatmilk
<1> do you solely work on javascripts?
<1> hello edd_
<4> #asp' got a real wanker .He kicked me and my client crashed. I didnt do anything.
<4> hey AufWiedrsehn
<2> AufWiedrsehn: No.
<1> what else do you work on?
<2> These days, C++, LUA and even some Java (purely against my wishes hehe).
<1> i actually got interested in webdev because of graphic designing... =/
<1> i've got some java books here i don't use, heh...
<2> Oh I don't use either of those for web dev.
<2> I use PHP serverside.
<1> ohhh...
<1> i did come across PHP with wordpress...
<2> Graphic designing and webdev have little to do with eachother really.
<1> the problem with me is, except for the design itself, i don't know how to start any coding from scratch...
<2> Web designing is a whole different field from graphic design.
<1> i know, but then someone recommended to me that i can use my graphics to design a page...
<2> That's a bad start.
<1> that's how i wound up wanting to learn more about webdev
<2> Graphics should augment a web design, not define it.
<1> pfft...
<1> for someone supposedly (finally) doing something on her own, i must be very terrible then...
<2> Just look at the really big sites out there.
<1> oh well, at least i try =P
<2> That's good.
<4> I agree. Go to volvo's site. Its so slow that by the time you start using it you are already fed up . FLash is not always good
<2> As long as you also listen to advice you might do well. :-)
<2> Exactly, edd_.
<4> The best sites have the fewest pictures. (I block pictures mostly anyway :) or use lynx )
<1> =]
<2> Ideally, a page should be usable in lynx. :-)
<4> mmm.
<1> i know... and then someone tells me to make the site look clean, use more and more of CSS...
<2> And when using CSS for all layout that is indeed possible.
<2> Even when the visual version of the page looks very complex.
<1> and i'm, like, oh my god, i haven't even mastered anything...
<1> ... and here comes another one and another one...
<2> Hehe.
<1> i should just probably stick to graphics, eh...
<2> Webdev and web design are both huge topics.
<1> i know!
<1> and i feel so small...
<1> =/
<2> Gargantuan even. :-)
<4> i know how you feel i wish i started before 95. That way idve been around when nothing really existed
<1> haha! exactly!
<1> i feel so... left behind...
<1> lol
<2> With a WYSIWYG (!)
<4> :)
<1> whoa!
<2> Learn from my mistake, that's all I say. :-)
<4> And stay away from intellitext. Its makes you lazy.
<1> i haven't even heard of that...
<1> i'll just steer clear haha
<1> 96...
<4> its like autocomplete. It finished your words for you. Its very good to speed you up .
<1> i was only in sixth grade then. =]
<4> finnishes.
<1> oh!
<2> I was young and everyone were making geocities pages.
<2> (Hence my comment that myspace is geocities 2.0 :-P)
<1> seriously? hahaha...
<1> i do think myspace is not very organized...
<2> Neither is/was geocities.
<1> goodness, when you look at the myspace profile page it even says you are connected to your own network... wth... =/
<4> :0
<4> but you are. else you wouldnt be :)
<1> that's... looking at it in another light
<1> lol
<4> I mean if you are not connected to your network then another network is your network but thats your network so you are notconnected to it etcetcetc.
<4> :0
<1> i mean... is it not supposed to tell you that that is your own profile page? you know... something like that... and the people you're connected to... you can't keep track of which of whom are connected directly to you coz the page doesn't say and every profile just has that link "Add to Friends" or whatever, instead of just displaying something like, "This or That is on your friends list" or whatever...
<4> I dont know . Never used/been to myspace. So i got no clue what u r talking about . :)
<1> oh.
<1> i should have just shut up. lol.
<4> :)
<1> hey, i gotta go...
<1> nice meeting you, edd_, Pilum... and thanks...
<2> Np.
<1> auf wiedersehen! =]
<4> k bye
<5> hello, is there a function that serializes objects?
<6> hello
<6> is there a wayto get to a parent function above this?
<7> Why is this true: when I hide something using the style.visibility = "hidden" method, the element is hidden, but there is space for it reserved on the page, but when you use style.display = "none" to hide an element, no blank space is left behind and the other items in the page move to fill in for the now hidden element.
<8> exactly as designed
<8> use whichever you need
<7> but why does one leave space reserved?
<8> because it is supposed to
<7> you don't know the rationale behind it?
<8> yes, sometimes you want the space to remain, sometimes you don't
<7> when would you want the space to remain?
<9> when it impacts your layout to do otherwise
<7> oh
<8> exaclty
<8> button bars, dhtml controls, etc..
<7> Thanks for answering my inquery!
<9> sure
<6> anyone good at object oriented javascript, if you can call it that :)
<8> no, you cannot call it that
<8> object related, sure
<10> foo foo foo
<11> am I lagging?
<8> if you want to
<11> I don't want to
<12> Are you a plumber?
<11> nope
<8> just constipated then?
<11> naw... been regular for most of my life
<13> rofl
<11> nice
<11> editplus is crashing on me about 8x a day recently
<13> i love notepad++
<13> great editor
<13> not notepad but notepad++
<9> jedit ftw
<14> www.dhtmlgoodies.com
<14> that dude r0x!
<8> for oldschool, sure :P
<2> Heh. Been years since I saw that url.
<6> sorry i got distracted
<6> basically i want to call a functions parent
<6> or an objects parent, not a node
<6> but a objects
<8> functions do not have parents. If they belong to an object instance, use 'this' to refer to the owner
<6> right
<6> ok
<6> i would like to access a parent, i end up declaring the var like this:
<6> var name=spin; eval(name+" = new masterObject()");
<2> Don't eval.
<2> If you can possibly avoid it.
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