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<NeoFu7ure> i think he is in holding still
<NeoFu7ure> there is more story with him
<NeoFu7ure> and i have this funy feeling
<NeoFu7ure> edgar aint dead
<dave-e> edgar died donkeys ago
<NeoFu7ure> he dies ep 12
<NeoFu7ure> right at the end
<NeoFu7ure> i dont think he is dead
<NeoFu7ure> they played it too much
<dave-e> ;)
<ht311> NeoFu7ure: he is dead. there is no zombie in ctu
<NeoFu7ure> ni dont think h is dead thinte`l come ouand find a pulse
<NeoFu7ure> 8erfgqpf;2hy['2q4gv4
<NeoFu7ure> FUKINKEYBOARD
<NeoFu7ure> i think they will find him still breathing with a pulse and there will be a way to see what the nerve gas does and how to treat it
<NeoFu7ure> ht311 then how would you get paid ?
<ht311> we got the money already
<NeoFu7ure> **** em then
<ht311> all spent, we are over run the dead line (not really our fault)
<NeoFu7ure> nerve gas it is
<furtive> no, use those ruffy pills and knock'em up for more cash and ***, then go with the nerve gas.
<NeoFu7ure> im considering closing my company and getting a job
<ht311> some company want to play us to document and review their current business process and review there system. if they are happy, give us the contract to built a new one for them
<ht311> as soon as i get half a million in saving and pay off my house, i am going to retire
<NeoFu7ure> i dont think i can be bothered anymore
<NeoFu7ure> lol
<ht311> Investment Quebec approveded our R&D loan
<NeoFu7ure> dont talk to me about R&D
<NeoFu7ure> ****in ***holes in the UK
<NeoFu7ure> "noo you cant do R&D you need to fund that yourself" no wonder half the ****in country aint even heard of CRM and the other half think its a coffee machine
<ht311> our technical reviewer need us to explain to him what is http, ui etc
<Pilum> UI = Ugly Interface
<ht311> hehe, not bad :)
<NeoFu7ure> http://www.affinitygo.net/
<NeoFu7ure> :(
<NeoFu7ure> i cant be arsed anymore
<NeoFu7ure> i hate brand building
<dave-e> I'm so glad I never got into this ****.
<dave-e> I'd suffocate in waffle.
<NeoFu7ure> whats the codes for " and "
<NeoFu7ure> front ad back
<NeoFu7ure> the weird ones
<NeoFu7ure> lol
<NeoFu7ure> “getting started”
<NeoFu7ure> them ones
<NeoFu7ure> lol
<ht311> i hate my codes
<NeoFu7ure> i hate you too
<NeoFu7ure> unmm yeah your codes too
<furtive> hi ht311
<ht311> lo
<ht311> opera ****s :) there is no document.stylesheets
<furtive> who uses opera?
<ht311> hehe, just bored, try to get domapi running there. that seem to be the frist problem
<ht311> hmm opera seem very annoying ....
<furtive> i don't think i ever used it for more than 10 minutes.
<furtive> i'm in process of migrating wiki to permanent host. almost done, just need to map port to a url and then update dns servers. channel site will now consist of a blog and a wiki
<ht311> for user is not bad, just seem is kind of annoying for development
<ht311> nice
<furtive> could be
<furtive> i wish i had email address for all the ops here
<furtive> hard to speak to everyone
<ht311> I don't ever add my name to wiki :)
<furtive> yours is there, it's empty though
<ht311> oh
<furtive> hehe
<NeoFu7ure> furtive neofuture@msn.com
<furtive> thnx neo :-)
<NeoFu7ure> or neofuture@gmail.com
<furtive> uh, which do you check?
<NeoFu7ure> both
<furtive> heh, k
<furtive> gnight
<furtive> best part of new wiki is that if code is between <code> or <pre> tags you don't have to escape anything. I think that was the biggest flaw of old wiki
<ht311> domapi really need a wiki, another guy complaint about doucments :D
<furtive> hehe, any cold fusion wiki out there?
<furtive> i really like wiki, was real useful at my last job.
<furtive> at current job i'd rather use wiki too but have to use lotus notes db instead
<ht311> got quite a few example running in opera now
<furtive> you're a very generous man ;-)
<ht311> I am just bored, sick for java this week
<furtive> ah
<furtive> i hear you
<furtive> js is soothing
<ht311> the component that don't require css unit support are working ok
<furtive> i'm tired. don't feel like web server config stuff right now.
<furtive> woohoo, shutout for Huet
<ht311> [Torgo]!
<[Torgo]> lo`
<ht311> it is kind of running in Opera now :)
<furtive> It ain't over until ht311 sings
<ht311> but will be very hard to get it fully supported
<[Torgo]> yeah?
<[Torgo]> worth it?
<ht311> no document.stylesheets support at all. that will be hard to get anything running that require css unit
<furtive> ht311: did you look for alternate solutions to the document.stylesheets tihng? i've got some links but nothing useful from what i saw so far
<ht311> the drag unit is not working also
<[Torgo]> hmm.. i don't think anything uses that
<[Torgo]> safari doesn;t support dynamic styles, so i steered clear of relying on it
<ht311> you do get the rule and change the content
<[Torgo]> not on safari
<[Torgo]> hmm, ms released an update to the "Windows Genuine Advantage" crap
<ht311> i use the alternative method , run the exe in win2000 mode
<ht311> but they start put it in the setup msi now
<furtive> you guys need to get better licenses, hehe
<ht311> i have valid key, but i still like to run the cracked version :D
<ht311> got msdn too
<ht311> [Torgo], i will leave that swapNode issue on FF1.5 to you. not used debug in there ;)
<[Torgo]> thanks :P
<ht311> I think is worth to integrate the quick opera fix, at least the testes are mostly working, good enough to get A- :) going to play a bit more on the weekend and let you know what happen.
<ht311> only 3 changes so far
<ht311> Opera8.5 working too
<furtive> good night all. blog/wiki news tomorrow.
<SufiBlade> 'night
<[Torgo]> all too easy
<[Torgo]> http://forums.itweek.co.uk/thread.jsp?forum=17&thread=71611
<ht311> heh
<ht311> some dojo/turbowidget stuff are not working in Opera too :)
<[Torgo]> alright, that's done. now, what's this about sortNode?
<[Torgo]> the nodeSort test page works fine in 1.5
<[Torgo]> something specific to listgrid?
<ht311> swapNode
<ht311> about drag drop col header
<ht311> funny, working on my machine ....
<[Torgo]> ah...
<[Torgo]> yeah, recreated it
<[Torgo]> sheesh, what did they break now
<[Torgo]> this is exactly why i don't support betas
<ht311> yup, that's annoying. FF1.5 is not beta
<[Torgo]> only in name..... only in name.
<ht311> but it is just an annoying release, memory hog
<ht311> hmm, why my copy is working ... it was broken this afternoon ...
<ht311> i added try catch around insertBefore
<[Torgo]> i've gotten sidetracked
<[Torgo]> trying to fix these damn css errors in the colsole
<ht311> is about time ;)
<[Torgo]> got all of them but the ie specific ones
<ht311> try condition comment
<[Torgo]> within the css?
<[Torgo]> thought that only worked for includes
<ht311> checking ..,
<[Torgo]> i use this on the site:
<[Torgo]> <!--[if gte ie 5.5000]>
<[Torgo]> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="/css/ie.css">


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