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<0> ++
<1> hello
<2> Hello.
<1> I want to overwrite the .pop() method
<1> so it can pop() elements from the middle of an array as well
<2> Look up prototype.
<1> I used Array.prototype.pop = function(el)
<1> but when I tried cleaning the current array with: this = []; i got an error
<1> Error: invalid ***ignment left-hand side
<3> set this.length to 0
<1> :D thank you
<1> btw, isn't there any kind of function like the one i'm describing builtin to javascript?
<4> splice
<5> hrm
<1> splice pushes items into the array
<1> i want to pop them out
<5> splice does that too
<5> [1,2,3].splice(1,2,null); => [2,3], and leaves original array like [1] // iirc
<2> http://devedge-temp.mozilla.org/library/manuals/2000/javascript/1.5/reference/array.html#1193766
<4> http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Core_JavaScript_1.5_Reference:Global_Objects:Array:splice
<5> Pilum: update your urls ;)
<1> I see
<5> devedge-temp is so 1999.
<2> I just did. :-)
<5> ;)
<4> hehe, the tricks is add mdc to the google search string
<1> splice is by index number. none by element?
<5> err?
<1> err?
<1> umm I have a problem with the this.length = 0; thingy
<1> Array.prototype.pop = function(el) { var arr = this; this.length = 0; alert(arr); } resets arr too
<2> Indeed.
<1> any ideas?
<4> s/dose/don't
<1> it's part of the fun ht311, javascript is flexible (:
<5> flexible doesnt mean == everything you can do with it is *ok*
<4> there is a fine line between fun and dumb
<5> for intance, replacing intrinsic functions with custom ones are bad
<5> extend == ok, replace == bad
<1> I am extending
<5> err, you'r replacing, if your code look like this: Array.prototype.pop = function() { ... } your replacing intrinsic pop function with your own.
<5> tihi, eos
<1> let's see you say that to the creator of prototype.js :P
<2> It's not like he's invented prototypes.
<1> but he's done some usefull modifications
<5> hehe, Prototype == big pile of trash
<5> only reason ppl use it is because they dont know how to write js code
<2> Does he replace anything though?
<1> wrong, I use it becuease it helps me write code faster
<2> And I agree with fatbrain for the record.
<4> I don't think he replace anything
<5> I dont think so, not that I worked that much with prototype
<5> ^bit: wrong, it helps you achieve what you want to do without having to type that much.
<5> I doubt it actually makes you write code faster :P
<1> in fact, I'm building my own smaller framework right now cuz prototype.js has a lot of useless crap
<1> hehe true :P
<5> I've written a few frameworks, mostly for my own personal and professional use.
<4> geeze, another useless framework in the work
<5> (as long as he keeps it private, who cares ;))
<1> hey, why do you think it's useless?
<5> define *it's*
<5> what do I think is useless?
<5> Your framework?
<1> my framework
<5> If you find use for it, good for you.
<4> juding by you use the word "framework"
<1> that's silly...
<4> same logic you call prototype has a lot of useless crap
<1> I used prototype and read guides before I started calling it crap
<5> errm
<5> Let me see if I can find my core.js and post it somewhere... mostly because you wanted me to do so :
<5> :P
<4> don't give me your crap, my crap is better :D (or more crappy)
<1> but doing $("#example .yeah") instead of document.getElementById("example") and then god knows what to get the cl*** is much better
<1> anyways, do you have a solution for Array.prototype.pop = function(el) { var arr = this; this.length = 0; alert(arr); } ?
<1> it can with my frame work :D
<2> One word: bloated.
<4> may I add a f-word in the front?
<2> You may.
<5> hrm
<1> useful if you ask me...
<5> brb, phone
<4> still f-bloated. I always wonder why people are too lazy to give the element an id
<6> hi
<1> ...wrong again. you cant always give it an id
<6> anyone know nuline370 ?
<1> somethings $("#example .yeah") is an array of elements
<1> or even wrose $("#example li")
<4> either case, it is slooowwww
<1> err! $("#example li") is just like doing document.getElementById("example").getElementsByTagName("li") how is that slower?
<1> the only this slow about it is that you have to type more
<2> Because it doesn't have to go through whatever $() does before it does the document.getElementById("example").getElementsByTagName("li") part?
<2> s/doesn't have/has/
<4> need to scan the string , to decide to use getelementbyid or getelementsbyCl***Name every call to the 4()
<4> s/$()
<4> and I just don't have a case in my app to do anything base on cl***Name
<2> Anyone implementing getElementByCl***Name needs to have their heads examined if you ask me. :-)
<1> lol Pilum why?
<4> I have to agree on that.
<4> cl***Name is just a cl*** name in css, you give extra meaning to the name and create another layer of mess
<2> Because I haven't seen one of those yet which isn't a hog, and there are better ways to identify an element than by what cl***(es) it has.
<2> Exactly.
<1> what other ways, Pilum?
<2> IDs and names.
<1> IDs can only be used for one element per document, if you want the document to be vaild
<2> Then you use names....
<4> or any attributes your want
<1> and names are just for <input>'s and <textarea>'s arn't they?
<2> Wrong.
<4> read the spec again
<1> you cant add any attr to want, that's invalid too
<1> you*
<4> not according to my namespace
<1> Well I dont know where are you checking, but according to Tidy Vaildator you can't add names to elements other then <input>/<textarea> and you cant add attributes that dont exist
<2> Tidy Validator doesn't follow the specs then.
<2> http://www.parkscomputing.com/html4/
<1> http://validator.w3.org/
<1> <ul id="example" name="hi" blah="hi2"> two errors:
<4> http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/links.html#adef-name-A
<1> there is no attribute "NAME", there is no attribute "BLAH".
<1> ht311 thats only for <a>
<4> it is not an input or textarea
<1> plus it's for anchors
<7> I am trying to add input fields using javascript function in a registration form but only the first value can be retrieved from $_POST.. http://paste.devpipe.com/914
<1> it serves a diffrent perpose. and in anycase there are a lot of other elements that cant use names
<2> hehjokl: Never use "javascript:" in your code
<2> And that's "name", not "Name"
<1> so cl***es are the only way some times(:
<2> Bull****, ^bit
<1> you have any other saggestions?
<2> Wrap 'em and use getElementByTagName on the wrapper's child for example.
<1> suggestions*
<1> and how do you identify which of those children you need to work on?
<2> It's called planning your HTML structure.
<1> a few months ago I built an app that had a list of users in random locations in a list. the only way I could identify them was with cl*** names.
<1> the elements are not always in a permanent position, you cant always plan where they will be. thats when you use cl*** names.
<2> Sheesh.
<2> You can plan if you're not completely ****ed in your head. As for position, that's where this thing called CSS comes into the picture.
<2> As for right now... I'm too tired for this.
<5> *yawn*
<3> exit
<8> someone can help me plz ?
<4> just ask your question
<8> i want use the multiplexor in java
<4> this is #javascript, not java
<8> i have a infinite loop in a java for showing a moving image and i cant show the rest of my html
<8> javascript sorry
<8> this is a js file
<4> you have the page somewhere?
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