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<[Torgo]> you have to manually remove the dom references
<sk8ing> how?
<ht311> set it to null
<sk8ing> thanks, another two questions: can I specify a destructor?
<sk8ing> so it will remove the references when t leaves the scope?
<ht311> nope, i hope there is one
<sk8ing> hmm
<sk8ing> and the 2nd: how do I specify a reference, like THIS IS REFERENCE not a copy
<sk8ing> ?
<ht311> it is always a reference
<[Torgo]> all non primitives are p***ed by reference
<sk8ing> it is a primitive
<sk8ing> at least I think so
<[Torgo]> then it cannot be by ref
<sk8ing> hmm
<sk8ing> tx
<sk8ing> no work-around for this?
<[Torgo]> work around? you ask as though it's a bad thing
<sk8ing> it is not a good thing
<[Torgo]> why would you want a reference to an integer?
<sk8ing> that's for sure
<sk8ing> heh, consider this:
<sk8ing> scrollTop
<[Torgo]> an integer
<sk8ing> for cross-browser compatibility you have to search for it in more places
<sk8ing> now, if you want to set it
<sk8ing> you have to search again
<[Torgo]> what?
<[Torgo]> whatever book you're reading, burn it
<sk8ing> I'm not reading a book
<[Torgo]> figure of speech
<sk8ing> I think you don't follow
<[Torgo]> not sure why i try to help you
<sk8ing> it's a discussion, I'm not asking help right now
<[Torgo]> but you clearly are in need of it
<sk8ing> let's say you want to set the scroll to some value
<sk8ing> are you following?
<sk8ing> you want to scroll the page to some value
<sk8ing> now, to do that, you'll have to look in document.documentElement
<[Torgo]> wrong
<sk8ing> in document.body
<sk8ing> wrong?
<[Torgo]> wrong
<sk8ing> where do you have to look then?
<[Torgo]> scrollTop is a member of the window cl***
<sk8ing> unfortunatly it isn't there most of the time
<[Torgo]> you need to ***ert it
<sk8ing> by the way, scrollTop doesn't appear as a property of the window element, not from what w3c is saying about it
<[Torgo]> and yet, there it is
<[Torgo]> what's your point?
<sk8ing> the point is that a value may not reside in the same place
<sk8ing> and a global reference will be really useful
<[Torgo]> best pick a better example then
<sk8ing> when you want to set it
<sk8ing> well, you got the point
<[Torgo]> you're talking about a cross-browser api
<[Torgo]> setScrollTop
<sk8ing> why execute a function every time you have to set something when you could just use the reference
<[Torgo]> because there is no reference -- have you not been following?
<sk8ing> that's the point, now do you see why it's not a good thing that it's missing?
<[Torgo]> nope
<sk8ing> k...
<[Torgo]> you clearly need a better grasp of the js language if you cannot see why primitives need to p*** be value
<sk8ing> why would they have to be p***ed by value? come on, and those references are not eaven real references
<sk8ing> are pointers
<sk8ing> since you can set them to null after you're done with them
<[Torgo]> so you'd have 1+1 use references?
<sk8ing> 1+1 is a constant
<[Torgo]> 1 is a primitive
<sk8ing> 1 is a constant. x = 1; x is a variable
<[Torgo]> wrong
<sk8ing> x is a primitive type
<sk8ing> as in "defined inside the core"
<[Torgo]> check typeof on both
<sk8ing> they're both ints probably
<sk8ing> but 1 is a constant
<[Torgo]> wrong
<ht311> there is no constant in js, primitive is primitive
<sk8ing> so there's no difference between 1 and x?
<sk8ing> where var x = 1;
<sk8ing> ?
<[Torgo]> nope
<sk8ing> lol
<sk8ing> than 1 = 3; should make sens
<sk8ing> sense
<[Torgo]> you can just lol yourself out the door
<[Torgo]> getting a bit tired of this
<sk8ing> well, I think I have a point
<[Torgo]> nope
<sk8ing> k
<VaranG|aN> what is the code to create a new HTML image ?
<VaranG|aN> the line of code
<[Torgo]> document.appendChild(document.createElement("IMG").src = "foo.gif");
<VaranG|aN> thanks [Torgo] :)
<[Torgo]> np
<sk8ing> can I define custom operators for my objects?
<[Torgo]> such as?
<sk8ing> =
<[Torgo]> to ***ign an object?
<sk8ing> no, the = operator
<[Torgo]> yes, the ***ignment operator
<sk8ing> or any other
<sk8ing> something like this
<sk8ing> var x = new MyCl***(); x = 4; - and that would be evaluated to x = 4*2; let's say
<sk8ing> x being some private member of MyCl***
<sk8ing> the second x
<[Torgo]> nope
<sk8ing> k, tx
<sk8ing> question: how do I refer to a higher scoper var? function () { this.x = 1; function () { xspace } }
<sk8ing> how do I refer to x from xspace?
<sk8ing> *scope
<[Torgo]> should already be in scope
<sk8ing> I see, so x = 3; should be ok?
<[Torgo]> try
<sk8ing> I've been forced several times to use this.x;
<sk8ing> but I'm in a lower scope and this.x will refer to that scope
<Ruy> hello
<Ruy> if I have a HTML code, with 4 select object with the same name "country", how can I know by javascript, what select object have a ONCHANGE event ????
<Tarantino> how do you write " signs to html text with document.write?
<Tarantino> ahh- single quotes:-P
<freed> Hi, am wondering if anyone can point me in the right direction with a link or some info. Am wanting to have the bullets in my html <ul><li> list be visiable upon mouseOver.
<sk8ing> css
<sk8ing> look for display property
<furtive> it's not display
<sk8ing> oh, he doesn't want the whole list to be shown
<sk8ing> sorry, I haven't understood the question
<freed> hmmm, maybe i could use li:hover or something
<furtive> just the bullets, or the whole list?
<sk8ing> list-style I guess
<freed> the bullets
<furtive> liRef.style.listStyleImage = "???
<furtive> "
<freed> so you mouse over and one shows up for the item you moused over, by default you see no bullets
<furtive> or .listStyleType = "???"
<furtive> yeah, can probably do it with li:hover
<freed> i dunno, ill read up on thoes though
<freed> hmmm ok
<furtive> check that IE supports it too
<freed> k, thanx
<sk8ing> no
<sk8ing> it doesn't
<sk8ing> ie supports :hover only for anchors
<furtive> so you'll have to onmouesover it
<freed> li:hover{display: inline;} to show it, and display: block to hide it works
<freed> ie...what a pain
<sk8ing> lol
<sk8ing> no man
<sk8ing> display: block; shows it
<sk8ing> but as a block element
<sk8ing> you need display: none;
<sk8ing> that's what I thought first time I saw it too :P that it blocks the displaying :D
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