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<Alexender> hellow world
<Alexender> anybody around.
<POLICE^> help me
<furtive> how?
<POLICE^> 1 mins
<POLICE^> <input name="Value" type="button" id="menu" style="overflow:hidden; width:191px; height:27px; z-index:23; border:#FFCC99 1px solid; background-color:#757575; font-weight:bold; color:#FFFFFF" title="Webmenu" lang="ro Romanian" onClick="a href="asl"" value="Value">
<POLICE^> <-- what error?
<POLICE^> onClick="a href="asl"" value="Value">
<furtive> javscript doesn't recognize html elements
<POLICE^> button action url ...
<POLICE^> yep
<furtive> onclick="location.href='foo.html';"
<POLICE^> tenks! (suport php code?
<furtive> no
<POLICE^> tenk`s
<POLICE^> hmz imput buton redirect new page?
<POLICE^> code?
<POLICE^> _blank
<furtive> was that a sentence?
<POLICE^> <input name="Value" type="button" id="menu" style="overflow:hidden; width:191px; height:27px; z-index:23; border:#FFCC99 1px solid; background-color:#757575; font-weight:bold; color:#FFFFFF" title="Webmenu" lang="ro Romanian" onClick="location.href='success_login.php?user_login=<?php echo $view['mail']; ?>'" value="Value">
<POLICE^> url .. new page ...
<furtive> target="_blank"
<POLICE^> onClick="location.href='success_login.php?user_login=<?php echo $view['mail']; ?>' target='_blank'"
<POLICE^> ok?
<furtive> no
<furtive> <a href=
<furtive> err
<furtive> <a href=".." foo=".." blah="...">
<furtive> jeeze, this is like talking with a caveman
<POLICE^> okey link is button!
<POLICE^> hmz tenks help!
<POLICE^> :>
<ht311> oh is furtive, he come out from the cave
<furtive> i'm full of maple syrup
<ht311> you went to sugar shack ?
<furtive> yeah. best one in past three years
<ht311> wow, i though this year will be a bit strange, since there is no snow around
<furtive> well there is that yes, but temp was still good for the sap
<furtive> i also went to mt tremblant this weekend to see a concert
<ht311> just in time to recover for spring
<furtive> yeah
<furtive> now i'm setting up my dev env on the new notebook, i'll get that js channel migration done soon, hehe
<ht311> you should see gray's anatomy this summer
<ht311> hehe, you saw the date changed? hahahahaha
<furtive> yeah, i fixed that
<ht311> hehe, "Sometime" nice
<Daverag> What would be the best way to check if the element I'm dragging is already inside a ul before executing the insertion code?
<[Torgo]> check it's parentNode
<[Torgo]> if(parentNode.nodeName == "UL") etc..
<Daverag> where ul is the string i want it to verify against?
<[Torgo]> huh?
<[Torgo]> sorry, you sounded like you knew what you were doing ;)
<Daverag> yeah i really should mention i don't first :)
<VaranG|aN> you can drag an element with javascript?
<VaranG|aN> an element like what?
<bobmutch> I need a bit of help
<Demonen> bobmutch: I'm sure someone can ***ist, but not until you state your problem.
<Demonen> What's it called when I use an xmlhttp object to fetch non-xml? It's not AJAX as there is no X involved...
<Demonen> Can I still use the term "AJAX" to describe it?
<Demonen> I'm using the "evil" innerHTML...
<VaranG|aN> ?!
<VaranG|aN> Demonen?
<VaranG|aN> Demonen: it is .. the it wraps the data into an XML and transfers it through HTTP protocoll
<Demonen> hmm... I'm using it to grab .txt files right now, and it comes out as exactly that in the other end, so I can container.innerHTML it
<Demonen> Is it still called AJAX? I'm not touching XML with it at all.
<VaranG|aN> ahna ghar mil-qtates qed jitratawna .. vera tradejta din jien? .. jew veru illi min qala imbaghad bellaha
<Pilum> Ajax is just a buzzword.
<VaranG|aN> lol @ buzzword
<VaranG|aN> yes it is
<VaranG|aN> Demonen what are you using ?
<Demonen> Yeah, it is, but I still want to know what to call this.
<Demonen> I'm just GET'ing some data off the server using an XMLHTTP object.
<VaranG|aN> are you doing a postback?
<VaranG|aN> is there a postback/
<Demonen> I'm not sure what a postback is. Please explain.
<VaranG|aN> if there isn't a postback then your using the XMLHTTP
<VaranG|aN> A postback is when you click a button
<VaranG|aN> and
<VaranG|aN> that button requests from the server data or something
<VaranG|aN> the server returns back the data
<Demonen> Well, technically I'm using a href with onclick="" so non-JS people don't get completely screwed, but I guess that is a postback. Yes.
<VaranG|aN> in that way you'll see a page refreshs
<Demonen> no page refresh...
<VaranG|aN> my question still ponders though how the hell does the XMLHTTPObject returns data throuhg the server
<Demonen> can you please put more text on each line so I don't think you're done explaining in the middle of your text? It is confusing, sorry.
<ascii_> i need some programming inputs and views here. i've got a div tag displaying some text, I want it t obe "editable", so onclick i make <teaxtarea> inside the div tag, with the innerHTML text. when the textarea is changed, i store it to my DB using ajax tech.the problem is to get it to go back to the div tags when focus is lost, any ideas?
<VaranG|aN> I use AJAX but I'm using the Microsoft version Callback of VS2005
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, what do you mean by returning data?
<Demonen> http://www.z0rz.net/~demonen/WebKonsept/Ajax/ <-- This is the exact stuff I use.
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, XMLHttpRequest.responseText
<VaranG|aN> yes but how it works
<VaranG|aN> why it doesn't refreshes the site
<ascii_> cause it calls the page in the background..
<VaranG|aN> in the background
<VaranG|aN> ?
<Demonen> Yes, in the background.
<VaranG|aN> or because it is called asyncronously
<ascii_> you can look at XMLHttpRequest in a very simple way, as a "web-browser"
<Demonen> http://www.z0rz.net/~demonen/WebKonsept/Ajax/test.html <-- Look at it.
<ascii_> a webbrowser that you can't see, but use..
<VaranG|aN> are you using a server langauge?
<VaranG|aN> Demonen?
<Demonen> The "magic" is in this line: xmlhttp.open("GET",page,true);
<ascii_> yes..
<Demonen> Nope, I'm that example/test I'm just fetching .txt files
<Demonen> regular, every-day textfiles.
<VaranG|aN> using javascript/
<VaranG|aN> ?
<Demonen> Yes. Look at the example.
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, the whole idea with ajax technology is to use both client side scripting(javascript) and server side scripting to dynamicly update web-content in your browser..
<VaranG|aN> yes I know
<ascii_> Demonen, you got any good tutorials or hints to my question?
<VaranG|aN> ascii_: I know how it works.... just the XMLHTTPobject I didn't knew
<VaranG|aN> how it was written
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, if yout windering how it works, read the RFC for the http protocol..
<ascii_> oh..many typos..
<VaranG|aN> I'm using the Callback microsofts
<VaranG|aN> so to tell you truth all the XML stuff is being
<Demonen> ascii_: not really, no. I'm just learning this now. Experiementing and drawing off expeience with other languages, mostly.
<Demonen> Anyway, my conclution has to be that I should discard everything VaranG|aN has said so far, and reset the "What should I call this thing, then?" question.
<Demonen> I'll just refer to it as XMLHTTP, and forget the whole AJAX buzzword for now.
<ascii_> you are trying to learn ajax?
<Demonen> I don't care what it's called, I just don't want everything to refresh every time I want a tiny peice of information updated.
<Demonen> :)
<Demonen> I want to learn how to do this: http://www.z0rz.net/~demonen/WebKonsept/Ajax/test.html
<VaranG|aN> I have pages done in AJAX and its cool
<ascii_> Demonen, what server side scripting do you use?
<VaranG|aN> with ASP.NET
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, i bet it is..
<Demonen> ascii_: For that, I use nothing. It just yanks .txt from apache.
<Demonen> Eventually it'll be Perl/CGI
<VaranG|aN> perl-cgi?
<VaranG|aN> (õ_Ô)
<VaranG|aN> how come people still use it?
<Demonen> Perl, you know, the scripting language? Used as a Common Gateway Interface.
<ascii_> cause it's powerfull as hell..
<VaranG|aN> ASP.NET 2.0 is much more powerful
<Demonen> It can do anything and everything I want and need. That's why.
<Demonen> ASP.NET 2.0 does not run on Linux/Apache
<VaranG|aN> who cares as long as there is IIS
<Demonen> Perl, however, runs on IIS
<Demonen> so if I write my stuff in Perl, it can run anywhere.
<VaranG|aN> anywhere .. as if your going to transfer your site every week to another machine
<Demonen> I don't need to be picky about the host at all, I just need permission to execute serverside.
<Demonen> I write scripts for other people with other webhosts.
<Demonen> I don't wanna tell people "No, I can't take your money. I can't script for your webhost"
<Demonen> Anyway, who cares? If you want to use ASP.NET, please do.
<ascii_> VaranG|aN, go read some stuff before you argue..cause your arguments are lame..
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