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<0> nezek: thats why I pointed you to the installation guides. There isn't any since this is all commandline based. <1> i see <2> nezek: You are confusing "compiler" with "IDE" <3> nezek: try MS-DOS <1> in cmd? <3> yes <3> cmd or command <1> whats the basic command? do i can check its really exists <0> check the place where you installed it. program files\java probably. <1> cuz i've done this and it said "javac" doesnt exist <0> its not in your searchpath. as documented. <1> i tried C:/Java which is where i installed it last time <0> Plain common Windows behaviour. When you install a game and try to run the .exe from the commandline you get the same results. <3> cd Java <3> then cd again for bin <3> cd /bin
<4> Lion-O : dude you're playing the wrong games :-P <1> what do you mean cd Java? its not a path <0> kmh: Naah, this is fun (sorta) :P <5> hahaha <5> nezek: have you ever used XP? <2> you are unlikely to have instlaled it to c:\java unless you did a custom install <4> nezek : if you need an ide as well and a way to start it from your desktop, you might consider installing the netbeans bundle from sun <1> jottinger, yes, for about 7 years now (: <0> lol <4> nezek : may we pity you ? <1> wlfshmn i was talking about my former install <1> its now installed in C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06 <1> kmh you may shut up. <3> haha <3> nezek: try jcrator the LE version <5> nezek: you've used XP for seven years and you don't know how it, like, works? <3> don't install netbeans. it's a disaster <5> netbeans rocks now <1> can you please give me a basic command to test? i have a .java file ready <5> but you have to use 5.5 <4> nezek : yessir <4> javaq : na netbeans is no disaster <1> no no leave OTHER compilers, just let me see one that works <0> Netbeans is nice. It even hooks right into the PE9 application server. Immediate deploying. <4> nezek : javac <4> nezek : just find out where the javac file on you disk is, if you have no idea at all use search <1> 'javac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, .... <6> nezek: standard error, google or see first steps in sun java tutorial. <1> javac.exe? <0> for reasons already explained. <5> Lion-O: provided it's local. >:( <6> nezek: if you don't know about operating system environment variables, consider reading up on the subject, esp. on the special env variable PATH. <6> good morning everyone. <4> actually the only thing that bothers me with netbeans right now is that the gui freezes under certain circumstances, but i suspect that is Java/swing problem and not the netbeans code itsself <0> jottinger: true, that is indeed also my beef with it. Not easy to deploy something to my Blade box :/ <4> nezek : you need to locate javac first and go to that directory where it is <5> Lion-O: asadmin deploy --host hostname foo.ear <6> kmh: i had that with jedit when using a large memory configuration for its jvm. going back to the default fixed it for good (and i opted to use a native editor for log file digging anyway). <0> jottinger: yeah, but I meant from within the IDE :) <1> ok, i know i can search google, i've done that - but i need someone to just guide me cuz i have no idea what im doing wrong, so please - listen <0> Clackwell: morning! <6> kmh: i am afraid with nb you need the large memory setting. <6> hi lion <4> Clackwell : yes i thing it a memory issue (at least partially) <6> nezek: google for the exact error message that you get. <1> kmh what is javac? whats the full name? javac.exe? <6> nezek: programming usually only makes sense if you know a bit about the operating system, too. otherwise you'll stumble from missing concept to missing concept. <4> nezek the full name is javac.exe or javac.bat, but that is not the issue <1> Clackwell dont mistake me for a newbie, i know a lot - i just have problems with compilers. <5> uh <5> people who have problems like this are newbies <4> nezek : as people told you above you need to locate it and then either move to that directory or update your path system variable <6> nezek: do you know what PATH is on unix and windows? how to set it? <5> this is newbie stuff <5> and the installation guides for java go step-by-step <6> nezek: do you know what the current working directory is, how operating systems like windows and unix locate executables that you ask it to execute? <4> Clackwell : well i'm running it with default settings (when that happens - mostly if i let it idle in the background) <6> if you can answer all of these with a sound "yes", proceed. :) <1> no i dont know about that, guess your right <1> but that why im here, ffs <6> nezek: see faq for instructions on how to set up the jdk.
<5> haha <6> or see the sun java tutorial for the jdk setup instructions. <6> or see the installation notes of the jdk for set up instructions of the jdk. <6> or...come here and ask, claiming to know a lot. <6> oops, sorry, could not resist. :] <1> or you can help me instad, i could have done that myself <5> Clackwell: maybe he knows a lot, just nothing about installing and running stuff without point-and-drool interfaces <0> nezek: so why didn't you ? <1> kmh i searched, and found only javacl.exe <1> is that the file? <5> hahaha <6> jottinger: oh yeah, you mean he is a certified mouse user? <5> yeah <1> lion-o, becuase i tried it and didnt manage to find the answer myself, thats why i came to a place where i can instant msg! <5> "I always wondered what those letters on all those buttons were for" <4> Clackwell : good idea <5> magegzzek fooble git*click* quiop fagongil zizzer <6> nezek: see the above sources for intructions. i suggest the instructions in our faq, as they provide everything you need in the shortest possible way. <6> jottinger: shouldn't you spare the sarcasm for your boys? :) <1> ...you know. i've always said that mircers are useless. they only say that know every thing, but ALWAYS point you to google, well my friends - enjoy your little bubble, and the Google god. you are jerks. <5> Clackwell: nah, only two of them are awake, not enough targets for my sarcasm yet <5> mircers? <0> I am not using mirc <5> I am not using mirc either <6> mircers? dude, this is irc. what's the irc client have to do with anything? <0> so how can this make me an mircer? <1> what ever. IRC <1> happy? <5> nope <5> you've upset me now <1> or do you want to point me to a tut on google about it? <5> not only are you a certifiable idiot, you've called me a MIRCER! <1> idiots.... <6> nezek: why don't you refrain from bashing back AFTER you have read the instructions that we suggested? <0> lol <4> nezek : what actually did you install on your system before ? the jdk of sun ? <5> kmh: he installed paint and minesweeper <6> nez: you m...ight find them comprehensible, against all odds... <6> dang <5> chances are my babbling turned out to be an insult that he understood <5> "How dare you say that about my mother" <4> well i know he's annoying but mocking him does no good either <0> and you see, sometimes Java and Linux have much in common. They both manage to attract the.. "not so bright people" :) <5> kmh: he left, didn't he? <5> That seems like good to me <4> jottinger : if that was the goal you could have kicked 3 pages earlier <5> "1) Because you're an idiot" <4> jottinger : and spare him and us all the fuzz <2> Lion-O: drive-by-stupidity will always exist, no matter where you are <5> kmh: I don't even remember if I have an undernet ID :) <0> wlfshmn: so it seems, yes. <4> jottinger : ic <6> kmh: it's the payment that we demand for helping the 100 other people. <6> everyone coming here has to live with it or move on. <6> or demonstrate to do better than we do on a long term basis. <2> jottinger: and then you sober up, eh? ;) <5> I wonder if anyone has an archive of that "Why Linux is Not For You" anywhere <4> Clackwell : yes <5> wlfshmn: well, I don't drink, so I have a feeling it's simply nostalgia for the days when Myth and Stormy were around <5> shocking, rosc, etc <2> jottinger: now those are days which were before my time, oh ancient one <4> Clackwell : however i think there are better ways of compensation <5> aiel <2> now, shocking I remember well, and rosc somewhat <2> aiel too.. ran off with shocking, evil little man ,) <5> lucky man <6> kmh: yeah, money, but it's hard to get people to pay anyone on irc.
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