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<0> nezek: thats why I pointed you to the installation guides. There isn't any since this is all commandline based.
<1> i see
<2> nezek: You are confusing "compiler" with "IDE"
<3> nezek: try MS-DOS
<1> in cmd?
<3> yes
<3> cmd or command
<1> whats the basic command? do i can check its really exists
<0> check the place where you installed it. program files\java probably.
<1> cuz i've done this and it said "javac" doesnt exist
<0> its not in your searchpath. as documented.
<1> i tried C:/Java which is where i installed it last time
<0> Plain common Windows behaviour. When you install a game and try to run the .exe from the commandline you get the same results.
<3> cd Java
<3> then cd again for bin
<3> cd /bin



<4> Lion-O : dude you're playing the wrong games :-P
<1> what do you mean cd Java? its not a path
<0> kmh: Naah, this is fun (sorta) :P
<5> hahaha
<5> nezek: have you ever used XP?
<2> you are unlikely to have instlaled it to c:\java unless you did a custom install
<4> nezek : if you need an ide as well and a way to start it from your desktop, you might consider installing the netbeans bundle from sun
<1> jottinger, yes, for about 7 years now (:
<0> lol
<4> nezek : may we pity you ?
<1> wlfshmn i was talking about my former install
<1> its now installed in C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_06
<1> kmh you may shut up.
<3> haha
<3> nezek: try jcrator the LE version
<5> nezek: you've used XP for seven years and you don't know how it, like, works?
<3> don't install netbeans. it's a disaster
<5> netbeans rocks now
<1> can you please give me a basic command to test? i have a .java file ready
<5> but you have to use 5.5
<4> nezek : yessir
<4> javaq : na netbeans is no disaster
<1> no no leave OTHER compilers, just let me see one that works
<0> Netbeans is nice. It even hooks right into the PE9 application server. Immediate deploying.
<4> nezek : javac
<4> nezek : just find out where the javac file on you disk is, if you have no idea at all use search
<1> 'javac' is not recognized as an internal or external command, ....
<6> nezek: standard error, google or see first steps in sun java tutorial.
<1> javac.exe?
<0> for reasons already explained.
<5> Lion-O: provided it's local. >:(
<6> nezek: if you don't know about operating system environment variables, consider reading up on the subject, esp. on the special env variable PATH.
<6> good morning everyone.
<4> actually the only thing that bothers me with netbeans right now is that the gui freezes under certain circumstances, but i suspect that is Java/swing problem and not the netbeans code itsself
<0> jottinger: true, that is indeed also my beef with it. Not easy to deploy something to my Blade box :/
<4> nezek : you need to locate javac first and go to that directory where it is
<5> Lion-O: asadmin deploy --host hostname foo.ear
<6> kmh: i had that with jedit when using a large memory configuration for its jvm. going back to the default fixed it for good (and i opted to use a native editor for log file digging anyway).
<0> jottinger: yeah, but I meant from within the IDE :)
<1> ok, i know i can search google, i've done that - but i need someone to just guide me cuz i have no idea what im doing wrong, so please - listen
<0> Clackwell: morning!
<6> kmh: i am afraid with nb you need the large memory setting.
<6> hi lion
<4> Clackwell : yes i thing it a memory issue (at least partially)
<6> nezek: google for the exact error message that you get.
<1> kmh what is javac? whats the full name? javac.exe?
<6> nezek: programming usually only makes sense if you know a bit about the operating system, too. otherwise you'll stumble from missing concept to missing concept.
<4> nezek the full name is javac.exe or javac.bat, but that is not the issue
<1> Clackwell dont mistake me for a newbie, i know a lot - i just have problems with compilers.
<5> uh
<5> people who have problems like this are newbies
<4> nezek : as people told you above you need to locate it and then either move to that directory or update your path system variable
<6> nezek: do you know what PATH is on unix and windows? how to set it?
<5> this is newbie stuff
<5> and the installation guides for java go step-by-step
<6> nezek: do you know what the current working directory is, how operating systems like windows and unix locate executables that you ask it to execute?
<4> Clackwell : well i'm running it with default settings (when that happens - mostly if i let it idle in the background)
<6> if you can answer all of these with a sound "yes", proceed. :)
<1> no i dont know about that, guess your right
<1> but that why im here, ffs
<6> nezek: see faq for instructions on how to set up the jdk.



<5> haha
<6> or see the sun java tutorial for the jdk setup instructions.
<6> or see the installation notes of the jdk for set up instructions of the jdk.
<6> or...come here and ask, claiming to know a lot.
<6> oops, sorry, could not resist. :]
<1> or you can help me instad, i could have done that myself
<5> Clackwell: maybe he knows a lot, just nothing about installing and running stuff without point-and-drool interfaces
<0> nezek: so why didn't you ?
<1> kmh i searched, and found only javacl.exe
<1> is that the file?
<5> hahaha
<6> jottinger: oh yeah, you mean he is a certified mouse user?
<5> yeah
<1> lion-o, becuase i tried it and didnt manage to find the answer myself, thats why i came to a place where i can instant msg!
<5> "I always wondered what those letters on all those buttons were for"
<4> Clackwell : good idea
<5> magegzzek fooble git*click* quiop fagongil zizzer
<6> nezek: see the above sources for intructions. i suggest the instructions in our faq, as they provide everything you need in the shortest possible way.
<6> jottinger: shouldn't you spare the sarcasm for your boys? :)
<1> ...you know. i've always said that mircers are useless. they only say that know every thing, but ALWAYS point you to google, well my friends - enjoy your little bubble, and the Google god. you are jerks.
<5> Clackwell: nah, only two of them are awake, not enough targets for my sarcasm yet
<5> mircers?
<0> I am not using mirc
<5> I am not using mirc either
<6> mircers? dude, this is irc. what's the irc client have to do with anything?
<0> so how can this make me an mircer?
<1> what ever. IRC
<1> happy?
<5> nope
<5> you've upset me now
<1> or do you want to point me to a tut on google about it?
<5> not only are you a certifiable idiot, you've called me a MIRCER!
<1> idiots....
<6> nezek: why don't you refrain from bashing back AFTER you have read the instructions that we suggested?
<0> lol
<4> nezek : what actually did you install on your system before ? the jdk of sun ?
<5> kmh: he installed paint and minesweeper
<6> nez: you m...ight find them comprehensible, against all odds...
<6> dang
<5> chances are my babbling turned out to be an insult that he understood
<5> "How dare you say that about my mother"
<4> well i know he's annoying but mocking him does no good either
<0> and you see, sometimes Java and Linux have much in common. They both manage to attract the.. "not so bright people" :)
<5> kmh: he left, didn't he?
<5> That seems like good to me
<4> jottinger : if that was the goal you could have kicked 3 pages earlier
<5> "1) Because you're an idiot"
<4> jottinger : and spare him and us all the fuzz
<2> Lion-O: drive-by-stupidity will always exist, no matter where you are
<5> kmh: I don't even remember if I have an undernet ID :)
<0> wlfshmn: so it seems, yes.
<4> jottinger : ic
<6> kmh: it's the payment that we demand for helping the 100 other people.
<6> everyone coming here has to live with it or move on.
<6> or demonstrate to do better than we do on a long term basis.
<2> jottinger: and then you sober up, eh? ;)
<5> I wonder if anyone has an archive of that "Why Linux is Not For You" anywhere
<4> Clackwell : yes
<5> wlfshmn: well, I don't drink, so I have a feeling it's simply nostalgia for the days when Myth and Stormy were around
<5> shocking, rosc, etc
<2> jottinger: now those are days which were before my time, oh ancient one
<4> Clackwell : however i think there are better ways of compensation
<5> aiel
<2> now, shocking I remember well, and rosc somewhat
<2> aiel too.. ran off with shocking, evil little man ,)
<5> lucky man
<6> kmh: yeah, money, but it's hard to get people to pay anyone on irc.


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