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<0> but when i start with an empty tree ( so the object is null), after that it refuse to refresh my japnel
<0> any idea ?
<0> ^^
<1> hmm havent played with gui's for long time
<0> same for me
<0> last time i was working on java, it was java 1.2
<0> i'm working on this problem for 6 hours now...
<1> hmm, SAnDAnGE last i heard he went to work
<2> seems he missunderstood some stuff I said yesterday...
<2> too bad
<1> like?
<2> Also at least 6 supporters are required to be somewhat active, leaving and joining the channel, participating in the channel discussions, etc. while the channel is in pending state
<2> that's what he wrote...
<1> oh, they only need to join the channel
<2> no,..
<2> " as soon as all supporters say yes, they have less then 48 hours in which at least 6 of them have to join the channel at least once"
<2> that's what I said
<1> so, they only need to join the channel .. :P (after they said YES ofcourse...)
<1> X cannot monitor conversation of channels
<2> so.. to be more clear... it's urgent that in the first 48 hours of pending at least 6 supporters need to join the channel, after that, during the next 5 days of pending, all supporters need to join the channel
<1> ok
<3> any programming channel?
<1> XroX - this channel is for questions regarding the java programming language
<3> Sorry
<4> Clackwell - I dont understand why you just dont take a stab at it... this registration thing.
<4> Ok, so maybe you have to try 2 times, so what.
<2> he's afraid
<2> dunno of what...
<2> there are channel who tried lots of times
<4> indeed
<2> channels*
<5> teralaser : http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143&q=state+of+mind++bbc
<5> cool thing
<1> he is simply concerned that some of the supporters arent active
<4> in #economics we had a supporter, he was there EVERY night for 4 weeks
<5> MbGone : yes but there should be enough for the channel
<4> then, as I supplied the application , he went on some course for 3 days :/
<4> Morale : You never know.
<5> MbGone : if of the original ones is out of reach just pick another than waiting for too long imho
<1> well, its up to him, as far as i know there is one supporter who hasnt reply to the mail
<4> Forget about yura, Clackwell , .... /msg x info gives -X- LAST SEEN: 21 days, 15:47:41 ago.
<1> that might be a problem :P
<4> kmh : Your link is SOooooo cool.
<1> evening rob
<6> evening
<4> Dr. Rob_itall
<6> tera
<4> I watched kmh's cool video link.
<6> you did?
<4> yeah.
<4> It is about using humans as computers.
<6> where is it?
<4> www.espgame.org :)
<4> the video is here though : http://video.google.de/videoplay?docid=-8246463980976635143
<7>
<6> long movie
<4> but you ended watching quite a bit of it , I see
<4> He forgots to mention, that neural networks are often in many cases better than humans , when it comes to recognizing CAPTCHAs
<6> he shows the url's now
<4> espgame.net is actually espgame.org , but google tells you that.
<6> google is smart
<4> I had a discussion the other day. Is Google far superior to other search engines ?
<6> i would think so
<6> offering discussion group searching is also a big plus
<5> teralaser : captchas is only the intro. he's after something else
<4> kmh , thx, I watched the whole thing.
<5> ic
<5> just came across it yesterday by chance
<5> Rob_uknow : with discussion group you mean the usenet ?
<4> kmh yeah the search terms left in the url were quite diffent.
<6> http://groups.google.com/
<4> different
<5> wellafaik that is essentially just dejanews (which was bought by google)
<6> helps me find alot of answers to more advanced java problems
<5> yes
<5> but that is not not something with is an original google thing
<6> I wonder which jobgroup makes the most use of google
<5> IT professionals still ?
<6> kmh, the nice thing is, is that they offer it all combined on 1 page
<5> or pornstars ?:)
<6> pornstars google alot?
<5> Rob_uknow : well dejanews was doing exactly that
<5> Rob_uknow : no, but they might use google
<6> well, then dejanews just didn't know how to promote itself enough
<5> and there's booble.com
<6> never heard of
<5> Rob_uknow : well they did just that google recognized the potential bought them like youtube
<5> it is "clever" since on most keyboards b is next to g
<6> huh?
<6> b is below g
<5> Rob_uknow : below is next
<5> next as is neighbouring keys
<6> i'll just google for that
<5> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dejanews
<8> hohoha I getting mad with reflections aa, ok I am back to reallity : I am trying to acccess a field that is private, BUT using the setAccessible method I change the permissions, then I get java.lang.reflect.Field.get(Unknown Source) ... what should I do ??
<6> its made private for a reason
<6> what are you trying to accomplish anyway?
<8> just playing with reflections to learn stuff ... (not really accomplish something as such. more like learn more about java)
<8> it is private .. but using the setAccessible you suppose to be able and access it ...
<8> if I will not put the setaccessible i get sun.reflect.Reflection.ensureMemberAccess
<8> so it obvisouly doing something .. (gives me permssions) but then sun.reflect.UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.ensureObj comes in the game
<8> and makes me thing why I dont understand this!!
<1> dududa - changing access is a bad practice
<8> yeap it is .. but in my case seems to be good practice because I cannot accomplish anything .. !
<1> whats the exception you are getting?
<8> two lines will follow (sorry about that)
<8> at sun.reflect.UnsafeFieldAccessorImpl.ensureObj(Unknown Source)
<8> at sun.reflect.UnsafeObjectFieldAccessorImpl.get(Unknown Source)
<8> any ideas now ?
<1> thats part of the stacktrace , i am talking about the cl*** of the exception
<8> java.lang.IllegalArgumentException
<8> is that what u meant ?
<6> field.setAccessible(true); String s = (String) field.get(object);
<6> prints me the value of a private field
<1> yea, can you paste your code (not here, but in a website like the one in the topic)
<8> I think Rob_uknow gets my drift
<6> http://javafaq.mine.nu/lookup?53&wb=true
<8> yeap
<8> thats it
<8> thats wonderful, thanx Rob_uknow
<6> yw
<1> which reminds me, where can i register to the site ?
<6> register where and what?
<1> to javafaq.mine.nu, if i want to post articles and such
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