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<0> and we're pretty sure you're only aware of your own meat curtains
<1> funny how some "category" of people always manage to bite the hand which might feed them.
<0> he's probably romanian
<1> jottinger: aye
<2> J2SE ?
<3> j2se sdk yes
<2> would be the right package
<0> but it's 100MB
<0> so don't bother getting started, it's clear you're not interested
<1> jottinger: more ;) I excluded the demo's and samples.
<0> Clackwell: irony and logic have no place here
<0> so shhhh you damn jew
<2> i have trouble finding the download links
<2> :)
<0> the big red/orange "DOWNLOAD NOW" doesn't clue you in?
<1> cartman_: thats because you spend too much attention to this channel.
<1> try /reading/ what the browser tells you
<3> cartman_: http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
<4> Windows Offline Installation, Multi-language jdk-1_5_0_08-windows-i586-p.exe .52 MB
<2> Lion-O you do understand that what you just said make it impossible to believe that i would have any iddea what to do with the app once i download it
<0> no, we're pretty sure you have no idea
<3> cartman_: are you illiterate?::)
<1> cartman_: not really, thats what the instruction is for.
<1> if you can't read then thats your problem IMO.
<0> you can claim to run a botnet to DOS people who'd otherwise try to help you, but we know you are too stupid to install software
<4> cartman_: sounds like you need the sun java tutorial instead. and the installation notes for the jdk.
<2> now that just pisses me off
<1> awwww
<1> I feel soooo sorry.
<0> which thing pisses you off?
<2> you guys
<2> :)
<0> that people can't magically inject literacy into your iron skull?
<0> a lot of children have that same problem
<0> "What? I have to... to... 'think' for myself?"
<4> "literate me!"
<3> cartman_: well i offer you to outsource compiling.. you give me .java and $1 and i send you .cl*** file?
<3> :))
<2> this one time i killed a boy parents and feed them as chilly to him
<0> don't you mean "chili?"
<2> whatever
<1> cartman_: You mean to make us believe you can actually cook?
<1> naaaah
<2> wolfey got paypal ?
<4> hm. i think he ate the brain of that child himself. can you say "mad cow disease"? that what happens if you eat brain. :)
<2> :)
<0> When you've been attacked by an alligator, nearly gored by a boar, cut via switchblade, and taken a bullet in the calf... somehow, whiny kids over IRC don't mean much to you
<3> cartman_: nope
<3> :)
<4> +'s
<1> Clackwell: auch :P
<3> cartman_ but i can pick up western union money order
<3> :)
<2> this totally ****s
<2> im getting only 32kb /sec download
<3> now now:)
<2> and going down
<4> had you started 15 minutes ago...
<2> :(
<2> nope
<2> just now
<2> :P
<2> what should i do once i open the app
<4> had you started 15 minutes ago, instead of wasting everyone's time, including yours, in here...
<2> i got the code .java
<3> javac file.java
<4> cartman_: learn java. you are not going to get spoonfeed through this stuff.
<4> -e
<2> java is not for mortals
<2> Clackwell will i get only command line ?
<2> aint a graphical interface also ?
<4> cartman_: BEGINNERSBIBLES Download these two bibles (free of charge): 1) Sun Java Tutorial (http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/) 2) Bruce Eckel's "Thinking in Java" (http://www.bruceeckel.com/)
<2> you mean i should learn java only for compiling something ?
<2> ill never use this again
<4> success!
<2> in fact .. all i do is html and actionscript
<3> cartman_: damn, can you set PATH to point to java's bin folder?
<4> cartman_: yes, to compile something you are usually required to learn a bit, like how to use the tools to compile stuff, etc.
<2> html has nothing to do with any programing language and actionscript is C based
<3> then type javac file.java in console??
<3> cartman_: would you manage that?
<3> :)
<4> try using realbasic, vb, c++ compilers, etc. all without knowing a single bit about the stuff.
<2> lol
<2> well i usually read the manual for what ill use in the future
<2> for what ill never use i ask people to instruct
<2> and thats it
<2> java looks to complicated for me
<2> and not just for me
<4> alright, move one, vent elsewhere.
<4> on, rather
<4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MdD5Qt3El-k
<4> http://bobsutton.typepad.com/my_weblog/2006/08/marges_***hole_.html
<2> ok the install is now complete and has created folders : jdk1.5.0_08 / jre1.5.0_03 / jre1.5.0_08
<2> what next please
<1> installing the JDK doesn't create all that.
<4> cartman_: see faq, getting started section
<4> yeah, jre1.5.0_03 must have been there already.
<2> jdk1.5.0_08
<2> is what i need
<1> amazing how 100Mb is too much but keeping 2 JRE's (each approx. 70Mb) around proves to be no problem.
<1> anyway... dinner time, finally something usefull to do 8)
<2> ./bin javac
<2> my god i managed to compile de java file
<2> hahahaha
<2> screw you guys
<2> :))
<5> are you going home?
<3> :))
<3> LOL
<1> here we go. Now to see what can be done on the commandline with Java. I think thats a fun way to spend some time this evening
<3> :))
<3> learned to do ansi
<1> ansi is useless if you wish to be compatible with several platforms.
<6> Lion-O: I think there's a Java ncurses thingy
<6> Lion-O: There was even an AWT implementation which used ncurses to display its widgets, although I dunno how well it worked and if it's even still developed
<6> Lion-O: I think you can also get readline support for Java
<6> Lion-O: Take a look at, er, there was some database tool I used which was commandline based and written in Java
<6> Lion-O: henplus
<1> rhowe: yeah, I've found a few of those online but its not what I want. I mean; if I wish to extend native Java I can do as wolfey suggested and merely start using ANSI codes. Nah, I'm going to look at how I can write up my own methods to do what I want.
<7> hello
<7> guys, can anyonea please explain or give a link to a tutorial about what all these 3 operations do: int k= (i>>>26) + (9|13) + (15^8) ;
<7> thanks
<1> rhowe: so basicly see what happens if I, saw, try to abuse AWT or SWING on the commandline. Probably not going to work, but you can learn a lot from experimenting.
<1> Zdrenga: Sun's java tutorial. java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ iirc.
<7> i am more than new to java, i don't really know what to look for
<1> Zdrenga: arithemetic operations I'd say
<7> do these operations have names?
<6> Lion-O: There's an AWT implementation which I think looks somewhat like 'dialog'
<1> rhowe: *nod*
<6> Lion-O: Means you just use normal AWT code and it'll run on the console kind of as easily as in X or on Windows
<6> Lion-O: I'm sure it's not quite that simple, but it is a noble effort :)
<6> Lion-O: charva - that was it, I think
<1> rhowe: oh, I'm pretty sure its going to be hell and I'll be giving up after my first beer. But hey; it'd be cool (IMO) if I can expand my cli toolkit with some nice methods.
<6> http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/
<1> yups
<6> http://www.pitman.co.za/projects/charva/images/charva1.png
<6> It looks pretty neat
<1> rhowe: indeed.
<6> Lion-O: It's native code interfaced via JNI though, so it isn't as portable as something which is pure Java
<6> Lion-O: You'd effectively have to port ncurses to Java to do it in pure Java :)
<1> hmm, yeah.
<6> Or you could just ***ume every terminal is ANSI :P
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