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<0> hi
<1> hello
<1> can anyone recommend a good IDE and compiler for java
<2> Free/OpenSource or commercial?
<2> Netbeans 5 for free, IntelliJ IDEA for commercial imho.
<3> Eclipse also.
<2> eclipse annoys the crap out of me. so I don't actively suggest it
<3> However, newbies shouldn't use IDEs. Non-newbies should just try a few.
<3> Eclipse is the most widely used, is free, is open source, can run on kaffe and gcj. The others, er, aren't.
<2> BlueJ seems to get alot of good press as a "teaching java" IDE. I've not used it thou.
<3> BlueJ ****s balls.
<2> I wouldn't say most widely used
<3> I used it to teach last year.
<3> I would.
<3> This year I'm using JCreator.
<2> widely used for those without sense maybe.
<2> or cents.
<3> Nonsense.
<2> people say swing is slow - i've always found SWT/Eclipse even slower.
<2> thou that seems to be SWT/GTK thou
<4> good night all
<3> Swing is fast.
<3> I've never coded for SWT so I can't say. If Eclipse is slow, that's not necessarily SWT's fault.
<2> i dunno - the 3-4 SWT apps I've used were all quite sluggish
<3> Again, that doesn't mean SWT is sluggish.
<2> more means that GTK is **** - but standard GTK apps don't suffer the same problems.
<2> its a pointless argument anyway. elcipse ****s and thats that :)
<3> Great logic.
<5> does anyone know what the web application 2.5 DTD might be?
<5> been searching around and can't seem to find it
<5> only 2.2 and 2.3
<6> anyone know how to redirect in a servlet bet first set the http referer header
<0> talios hehe eclipse anoys the crap out of ya?>
<0> what for?
<2> caverdude, the whole perspectives thing is annoying as hell - at least the last time I tried it
<0> hrm
<2> switching perspectives for different operations just seems clunky
<2> seemed
<3> It's only two operations that I use.
<3> Java and Debug.
<3> Seems sensible to me.
<0> ya its ok for me too
<0> but I don't use idea
<2> last time I tried the debug one it gave me a tiny as code window which was hopeless for any real code editing
<3> So you do real code editing in the Java perspective.
<2> and when you're doing code/hotswap/code/hotswap
<7> hello!
<2> if you doing code/hotswaps you can't
<3> You can keep to the Java editor.
<3> Perspective.
<7> could anyone pls help me with something VERY basic in Java?
<2> but then you loose the debugging
<3> melisa_mtl: Not unless you ask.
<3> talios: So then you switch back.
<7> i have a compiled a file in java and i want to run it now
<3> You can resize stuff anyway to make the Java editor a reasonable size.
<7> i have been told that the command i type is "java -cl***path . filaname"
<2> ricky_clarks, seems clunky - switching from one complete UI layout to another just to do things
<7> but why doesnt it work?
<2> and it -always- kept returning sizes to skanky sizes
<3> I don't tend to use hotswap much, guess I could try.
<2> its been awhile since i've used eclipse thou
<3> I think there are genuine **** things about Eclipse, don't get me wrong.
<2> i'd use hotswap even more if it wasn't braindead
<7> :(
<3> melisa_mtl: It's java -cl***path . cl***name
<7> thats exactly what I am doing but i get the error "exception in thread "main"java.lang.nocl***defFoundError: ***6_4/cl***
<3> melisa_mtl: What's the cl*** called?
<7> ***6_4
<3> melisa_mtl: So what do you suppose cl***name means?
<7> the name of the cl*** of course
<7> :(
<3> Right, see your problem?
<7> no:(
<3> You are doing java -cl***path . ***6_4.cl***
<7> what should I be doing?
<7> java -cl***path . ***6_4 ?
<3> Try it.
<7> when i do that then it gives me a different error msg
<7> what should I type then?
<7> ricky?
<3> You should look at the error message.
<3> They demand attention.
<3> Selfish bastards.
<7> huh? who demands attention? :(
<3> The error message does.
<7> what is the usual command line to run a file? do you know?
<8> hallo everyone
<8> melisa_mtl: TUTINDEX Quickly locate information about your topic of interest in the *big* tutorial index: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html
<7> clackwell...in all the tutorials i have found, they give this specific command ...java -cl***path . filename but it doesnt work here!!!
<8> melisa_mtl: you are wrong. please do the "hello world" trail in the sun java tutorial.
<3> Sheffield.. I go there sometimes. Hot girls.
<3> [melisa_ath's town]
<9> hi
<9> is there any method to get name of current function within this function in the java cl***?
<3> Sir_Fred: You can do it by getting the StackTraceElements from a Throwable.
<9> ricky_clarks: thanks. is there any simpler way? :)
<9> i'm affraid i'm not so advanced to do it. not yet, of course :)
<3> Then don't do it. There's no need for it.
<9> sure, you're right.
<9> thanks anyway
<9> i'll keep remember your advice :)
<3> De nada.
<9> bye bye :)
<10> Are all ADTs
<10> Are all ADTs ultimately based on an Array
<11> No, why would they be?
<10> I mean do they all manipulate the data structure array, is that the way they work, is a certain type of ADT just a cl*** with various methods that manipulate the basic array
<3> What's the A in ADT?
<10> Abstract
<10> Abstract Data Type the whole thing
<3> So why would the implementation have to be an array, if the thing is abstract?
<10> like the Array-Based implementation, the Reference-Based, Link--List... etc, I have a hard time in understanding the core of it
<10> so that an ADT can be described or used without referring or knowing its implementation
<3> That's like saying "I want a car, but I don't care what kind as long as it's a Ford Mustang '68.".
<10> :)
<12> I use SuSe linux and just got started with java. what shoudl be my CL***PATH ? some code im working with (very basioc) requires the java.utils.Scanner cl***... cant find it
<12> actually java.util.Scanner
<3> Nothing in your cl***path.
<2> have you installed java?
<2> and no - gcj does NOT count.
<12> I have some packages like a java runtime enviroment and a "java-devel" installed (.rpm packages)
<12> i have java and javac binaries
<12> i would think that the cl*** would have been installed too
<12> maybe they are in .zip form somewher?
<13> Muir: you shouldn't set your cl***path at all
<13> Muir: do "java -version" and look at the output
<12> ok
<12> java version 1.50.03
<12> Java (TM) 2 Runtime Environment
<12> Standard edition
<12> something about HotSpot too
<13> then it should have the scanner cl***
<13> unless your javac isn't the same VM
<13> try javac -version too
<3> Muir: What's the compile error?
<12> its the same version
<12> when i try to run the .cl*** file (after succesful compilation) i get: "Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoCl***DefFoundError: a/cl***
<12> "
<3> You run it with java -cl***path . cl***name
<13> not a.cl***
<13> just a
<12> it works not
<12> *now
<12> thanks
<14> javb ****z0r!
<14> b0rk b0rk b0rk
<3> roisted: Hey, that's the smartest thing anyone's said all day!
<15> is there anyone that understand the way the binary search works
<15> *understands
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