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<0> Clackwell : a disturbing fact is that I already have gl***es
<1> yay_: but you have found the "Nested Cl*** Summary" on that DateFormat api docs page, haven't you?
<2> what is the best freeware java applet to connect to irc w?
<1> basix: no idea. investigate and give us a list, including your ratings.
<2> witty
<2> just thought that, maybe.. since this is a java chat room..
<2> and it is on irc
<2> that some of you maybe have experienced a few java applets to connect to irc
<1> we are java programmers. probably all of us use normal irc clients, not some applet crap.
<2> yea
<1> and since we are java programmers we know better than to fiddle with java irc applets. :)
<2> java ppl can make anything worth a damn
<2> ;)
<2> can't*
<3> basix: undernet has some webbased one. if you want to write your own jibble.org has an IRC api
<1> schitzo: but he wants the BEST!
<2> i can't write in java
<4> basix: But you can write in #java
<2> true
<2> haha
<3> Clackwell: yeah, undernet wouldn't be the best.
<4> FreeNode
<2> Clackwell: i am looking for an applet for my website
<3> although the splits seem to have stopped recently.
<2> normally i do use mIRC
<2> im usign pjIRC now
<2> it actually is a very beautiful applet
<1> this channel focusses on java software development.
<2> just was curious if there's anything better
<5> basix: http://www.googleityoumoron.com
<2> lol
<2> well sorry clackwell..
<2> it wasn't in the topic
<2> c0s- sometimes people opinions are better
<2> people's*
<3> yeah, opinions are just like a$$holes. everyone has one.
<5> your opinion is the best....you are the best judge of your work...
<2> yeayea
<6> what's the problem here?
<2> there is no problem
<1> and no spoon
<2> what is a good windows GUI java compiler?
<6> JCreator
<2> thx
<6> very fast and not bloated
<2> freeware?
<1> look?
<6> yes
<6> not the pro though
<3> wonder if he clicked on the wrong button on his browser
<1> ;)
<3> it's somewhat scary how the XMPP stuff is like the IRC protocol once you get to the API layers
<7> bah java refuses to listen to my setbounds for my damn window frame
<7> i have set the numbers inside frame.setBounds(); to everything from 0 to 500 and it still wont size the wawy i say
<7> any ideas
<1> caax: maybe you need to use layout managers consciously? they determine which of the utility stuff gets used and which gets ignored (such as bounds, possibly).
<7> ok
<8> I'm looking at some code that calls Foo.cl***.getName() -- that looks to me as though it'll always return the string "Foo". Is that right?
<9> yes it's right
<8> I wonder how that came about. That's the only use of cl*** Foo in the entire project.
<8> I suppose it's probably vestigial.
<8> Oh, hm. I suppose it's possible that someone's later using that string to generate an instance of the cl***, isn't it.
<8> Yeah, now that I take a closer look, I see the pattern. ANTLR stuff.
<9> :)
<10> are there any clever ways to print execution time in java ?
<11> what is the equivalent of getchar() in java?
<12> read() ?
<11> I'll try that, thanks
<12> depends on which stream you use
<12> see api docs and tutorial
<11> text stream, so read() would probably work
<13> hi all
<14> a question: what are the advantages of using Java Studio Standard, which is not free, over Java Studio Enterprise which is free? I just started today learning about this IDE, but I find it kind of hard to figure out this issue...Any help would be appreciated
<12> I've not heard much about either
<12> why are you looking ar an IDe in any case
<12> there is certainly no reason to nuy one early on, and once you are adept (maybe you are) the choice of IDE is usually very clear
<12> nuy = buy
<14> the thing is that I've just entered a company, and they use SUN ONE (now Studio Standard), but I find it hard to figure out why does the standard edition is $600+ and the Enterprise one is for free
<12> sorry I can't tell you
<14> k no problem
<12> sun 1 is the olde forte revamped, as it was completely horrid I've never gone near sune one
<14> sun really needs to do some organization with all those development tools out there
<12> I see no reason why the tools they put out aren't used by many professionals
<12> eclipse seems to have the 0$ market and IDEA has the cost market
<12> and no one needs the sort of fancy stuff that MS put out for their stuff, to code good and efficient Java
<12> I think the whole whose IDE is better issue is a silly argument, it's a matter of picking the tools that help your productivity best, and amoung developers that's necessarily hetrogeneous
<12> <gets off soap box> :)
<14> I agree
<14> I'm a newbie to the Java IDEs world, and I just started learning some stuff about them, but I feel this Standard/Enterprise thing makes no sense to me
<14> they even are offering the java studio creator for free
<14> quite a battle SUN is making against .net platform
<12> I must admit I don't see it
<12> the IDE's are not part of the architecturs
<12> ppl who think they are are in the wrong race
<14> what is your opinion of JSFs vs ASP.NET? Is there some ground to gain on MS there?
<12> I don't use either, so I don't have one
<14> i was referring to j2ee anyway , in the other post
<12> there are some pretty bigg differences
<12> almost no client side support in .net
<12> no ejb etc
<12> j2ee is more filled out, but a bit more complex for it
<12> IMO the amout of n-tier enterprise work done is far more than needed, we are still in the 'new tool for every job' position on the whole enterprise computing world
<12> big corporations are awash with servers that spend most of their time talking to eachother
<12> with thick client support on every desk that does sod all while the servers dish out overly complex, feature poor thin client solutions
<12> basically I think the balance is wrong
<15> heya
<12> and the whole .net vs J2EE thing misses the point
<12> hi
<14> bye..thanks for the comments calchas.. :)
<12> np
<12> good luck
<14> thanks
<16> Hey guys :-)
<16> Hey talios :-)
<17> evening
<16> How are you?
<17> bloated, but good
<16> oh dear
<16> lol
<16> yeah I love curry food too :-D
<18> hi there!
<18> does anyone have any hints (or URLs) about an easy way to print on a form using java?thnx in advance!
<18> no one?
<19> morning
<19> kosder: java.sun.com/tutorial
<19> has a handy "printing' section
<18> really...?havent noticed so far...i ll check it out thanks!
<19> pretty much every question like that, you should check the tutorial first
<18> yeach sorry...
<19> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/2d/printing/index.html
<18> thnx man!
<20> jomnipresent
<21> new java Jpackage, jricky_clarks ?
<20> No, it's what jottinger is.
<19> nonsense, there are a lot of irc networks I'm not on
<22> hello everyone
<22> does someone have experience of JRun ?
<23> not I
<22> hmm
<22> well the problem is that when i read a logged object from MDB, jrun starts throwing stackoevrflow exception and it never ends
<22> since its a transacted session
<23> dunno
<22> hmm
<23> try another appserver maybe
<22> its not possible
<19> a logged object?
<23> just for testing
<22> as i have huge project in prod environment
<22> on jrun
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