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<0> yes
<0> BUT!
<1> no buts about it.
<0> I am writing something similar to retroweaver , if you know what that is
<1> why reproduce retroweaver?
<2> greetings
<0> if you only used generics the only change in the .cl*** file required to run on 1.4 is ONE BIT
<0> not byte , BIT
<1> chances are if your using generics you'll be using the new for loop to make use of them as well.
<2> just out of curiosity what's the complexity for soloving the towers of hanoi pussle?
<0> the for loop does not require jvm changes
<3> O(n^2)
<2> I thought it would be cubic
<0> tobbes , thats' not a java question :)
<2> well no, but it's a general programing question :)
<0> it's a programming question :)



<0> AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
<2> I solved it in prolog but moving 10 discs takes more than a thousand moves
<0> ... that's too much
<0> o
<2> so it would seem it is not 0(n^2)
<0> no
<0> it
<2> lol
<3> my bad
<3> O(2^n)
<2> oki
<2> WM-Crash would you mind explaining how you came up with that?
<3> i corrected a typo
<0> http://yupana.autonoma.edu.co/publicaciones/yupana/003/hanoi/hanoi_eng.html
<2> thx
<0> alcohool is wearig off :(
<0> wearing
<0> damn!
<0> now it's all getting clearer
<0> and also stupider
<0> programming should be about abstracting not defining and describing
<0> that's the major flaw in today's software
<0> well , NO
<0> I am wrong
<0> it should be about BOTH
<0> no
<0> rephrase
<0> rethink
<0> programming languages should also be about abstracting , not just about defining and specifiying
<4> thank you ... no need to use colors
<0> but I didn't want to use all caps
<0> and yet I had to underline that sentence
<0> ah , this should have worked
<0> or this
<5> C0D3J: enough
<0> yeah , this is better
<5> hallo everyone
<0> Clackwell , you are probably stiffling the most important ideea in IT
<0> of this decade atleast
<0> that was VERY rude
<0> Clackwell, you're a java developer right?
<5> consider to take the two hints
<0> you mean the two rude kicks?
<6> Little help ..
<6> I am trying to fill a packet for an ntp client
<6> here is what I have in the RFC
<6> An NTP timestamp is a 64-bit unsigned fixed-point number, with the integer part in the first 32 bits and the fraction part in the last 32 bits and interpreted in standard seconds relative to UTC
<6> How could I represent that in java ?
<0> this is so sad
<0> good bye!
<3> laters dood
<2> WM_CRASH did you write the algorithm??
<2> the iterative version?
<7> tobbes , it apears that the complexity is 2^(n-1) :)
<7> where n is the number of disks
<7> (with 3 poles)
<7> uhm sorry
<2> yes well I'm trying to implement an iterative version of the algorithm
<7> (2^n)-1
<2> but I don't really understand it :)
<7> do you mean trying to generate the moves ?



<2> yes
<2> I suppose
<2> http://yupana.autonoma.edu.co/publicaciones/yupana/003/hanoi/hanoi_eng.html
<2> under 4
<0> that is a research paper :)
<2> yes
<0> did you run the applet/
<0> ?
<2> no
<0> http://yupana.autonoma.edu.co/publicaciones/yupana/003/hanoi/HanoiApplet.html
<2> I'm looking at it
<2> but it really doesn't help me to understand the algorithm :)
<0> pretty cute
<0> I could try and help you but I had a few beers and I'm sleepy
<2> I understand the recursive idea but not the iterative version :)
<2> no problem :)
<0> well
<0> if you get the recursive part, the iterative ideea is easy
<0> you just have to do what the call stack does for you
<0> that is: store variables before a call and get tem back after that
<2> oh well, it's too late for mysteries now
<2> take care ppl
<2> nite
<8> hello fellas, I'd like to start learning Java programming language...any book you recommend for begginners?
<5> Weapon-: see faq
<8> on java.com right?
<5> no
<9> Uh,can't have spare spaces here
<5> i am german, i have an image to maintain.
<5> uh, got me there, i don't drink beer. ;)
<1> and you call yourself german!
<5> i know, i know, but i am sure i am making up for that shortcoming in many other ways.
<10> anyone around?
<11> yes
<10> i'm using a MulticastSocket and a DatagramPacket to recive a multicast msg (multisocket.recive(dPacket)) , is there a way i can break the reciveing to recive at first only the first 4 bytes, and then another recive to recive the rest of the message?
<10> in tcp in c++ i can recive a part of the msg, then the rest, is it possible in multicast in java?
<11> how do you get dPacket ?
<11> can you cut/paste your code somewhere
<10> i do DatagramPacket dPacket = new DataGramPacket(buff,4); msock.recieve(dpacket);
<10> i can do it here :)
<11> okay
<11> then you should receive the 4 first byte no
<11> ?
<10> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ryYGWF39.html
<10> i want to get the first 4 chars, for the size of the rest of the message
<11> i dont know i'm sorry
<10> k, ty
<12> hi
<13> hello, can comeone help me?
<13> someone*
<14> good day
<14> how can i print letter with accent ?
<12> find the unicode and use that
<12> look tables for unicode are all over the net
<12> MixedLive ask?
<13> hello
<13> i'm having a problem with java, i'm trying to use a .jar file and i get a zipextraction error
<13> how can i solve it?
<12> what do you do to cause that error?
<13> i type this con cmd
<13> gclc pertenece
<13> gclc is the command that compiles the file pertenece
<12> it's not java
<13> then...
<13> ?
<13> gclc uses a file... gcl.jar
<13> i get this error
<12> is pertenece a java source file
<13> Exception in thread "main" java.util.zip.ZipException: The system cannot find the file specified
<12> gclc is not java
<12> do you already know any java?
<13> not yet


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