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<0> :)
<1> oracle database ?
<1> Or databases in general ?
<0> boredom-_-: well we used oracle for '***ignments'
<1> Oki
<0> otherwise it's general DB
<2> wolfey_ - isnt it general SQL?
<0> E-R, normalization, queries
<0> SQL is only small part
<0> rest is theory about how to model good database
<1> Ohh that's easy, you won't have trouble with that.
<0> boredom-_-: well we can bring notes to exam, there's no way i'd learn that weird symbols for relational algebra
<1> Did you start pl/sql too ?
<0> boredom-_-: only slightly
<1> Oki
<2> what are you studying?
<0> MbGone: computer science, software engineering
<0> :)
<1> Same here, I'm in third year at college.
<0> time to get my papers ;)
<0> me too
<2> i finished CS degree three years ago (thank go)
<2> god
<2> :P
<1> At university or college MbGone ?
<2> college
<1> Oki, will/did you go to university ?
<1> I'm still not sure if I'll continue.
<2> same here
<1> My last trimester begins the 22, then I'm done with college.
<0> :))
<0> now i did almost all ***ignments in java
<1> Hmm you sleep alot. 4 years non-stop. It's more than bears' hibernation.
<0> one ***ignment left, stupid MFC
<0> boredom-_-: well i learned java and sql in those years
<1> What's MFC ?
<1> Oki
<0> microsoft foundation cl***es for visual c++
<1> kk
<2> microsoft foundation cl***es
<0> ugly thing
<2> i agree...
<1> I learned java too, and vb.net.
<2> never really gotten myself to learn it
<1> Now i'm trying to learn C++ by books.
<2> hehe
<1> "atoi" ? what's the .
<2> ascii to integer
<1> lol !
<0> const char* to int
<1> ok
<1> So basically, when you learned MFC, you learned c++ ?
<1> Because I'm trying to learn cpp, with visual cpp and some books.
<1> Just don't know where to start.
<2> mfc, is basically a bunch of cl***es that microsoft wrote to make coding for windows easier..
<0> well i first learned gnu c++
<1> Kk
<0> and gtk, now forced to learn micro****s
<2> instead of using windows api's they wrapped it with cl***es
<1> Oh ok
<0> im more tempted to learn c#
<0> but still i dont use windows.
<0> :)
<0> at least trying not to
<1> I bought a book today: Accelerated C++ Practical Programming by Exemple by Andrew Koenig. ( http://www.acceleratedcpp.com/ )
<1> I heard it's a very nice book to start with.
<1> C#'s syntax is very similar to Java
<1> Well from what I've noticed.
<2> big shock :)
<0> boredom-_-: i'm waiting for mono to evolve
<0> :)
<1> mono ?
<0> novell's .net clone
<1> Oh ok.
<1> What's so nice with Novell, I hate it. My college uses it for the network management, and I don't know why but I don't like it.
<0> nothing. but mono works under linux
<0> :)
<2> :)
<1> Oh ok. So you really hate windows haha
<2> which linux are you running?
<0> gentoo
<0> for my computer
<0> ubuntu for friend's server
<0> kubuntu
<2> really? i took one look at the installation manual and threw it away
<2> ubuntu is great , used it in my old job
<1> I don't see why people hate windows that much, what's the point of working on linux and create applications for linux when windows represents 95% of the OS in the world ?
<0> MbGone: well gentoo isnt easy to start with. but when you get used to it, it's quite a pleasure
<0> boredom-_-: that's why i learned java
<0> :)
<2> boredom-_- - real applications are running on linux, as it much much more stable
<1> It's a great langage ( JAVA ), but the more I read about CPP , the more I tend to prefer CPP even tough I love JAVA for its simplicity.
<0> MbGone: and better performance
<0> MbGone: windows use too much RAM for nothing
<1> Yes but, most of those real applications can't be runned on windows.
<0> boredom-_-: well for each task you should use appropriate tool
<2> boredom-_- - the great thing about java, is its conmmunities
<1> Yeah
<2> and as wolfey_ said, you need to choose the right programming language for the task
<0> boredom-_-: for small problems you use precise thing like coffee spoon
<1> And the portable part.
<0> boredom-_-: for big problems you should use shovel:)
<1> LOL
<2> or pay someone to shovel it for you :P
<1> lol
<1> what's wrong with office ? haha
<0> that ugly dog is trying to be my friend
<1> I hate ***embler, it's so unclear.
<0> boredom-_-: want to see my quicksort in NASM? ;)
<2> wow, i havent touched ***embler in long long time
<1> uh lol
<2> since the degree, and before that, since the days of TSR
<1> You have time to waste haha.
<0> http://wolfey.si/test/quicksort.asm
<1> at the end the function is in ASM ? it looks like C++
<1> I don't know much about ASM by the way.
<0> boredom-_-: i quoted my c++ algorithm
<0> ; means comment
<1> yup
<1> Why not in java ? :p
<1> I thought you knew only Java.
<0> no
<0> but i only know java well enough
<1> oki
<0> like i spend 4x as much time to code same thing in c++
<1> Heh yes, me too lol. I'm only good with Java, and VB.net.
<1> I wish I knew a lot in C++, and nothing in Java.
<0> why?
<2> why?
<3> so go get a book (I recommend Accelerated C++), and dive in
<1> Because all the things I want to do are mostly made in C++.
<3> always good to know languages
<2> boredom-_- - like?
<1> Asriel I bought it on amazon.com today. I should receive it in a week.
<3> grand
<1> MbGone, like OpenGL stuff.
<2> boredom-_- - http://opengl.j3d.org/
<1> Yes I know it's possible to do OpenGL stuff in JAVA.
<1> But what I want is to create a game Hook, which will add features in a game for example.
<1> And from what I read, it's only possible in C.
<2> you mean hooking the opengl functions?
<1> As for example, using the game's .dll and alter the functions called by the game etc.
<1> Yes.
<2> yep, you can do it with java (unless you are using jni)
<2> grr cant
<1> what's jni ?
<2> java native interface.. it basically allows java to call code which is written in another language (like c++)
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