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<0> gilead
<1> java is simple, ruby and groovy are too 'clever' for me :)
<1> otoh, I like Perl :P
<0> one thing I do like about groovy is that is compiles down to traditional bytecode
<0> so you don't need to do anything interpreted if you don't want.
<0> grovvy+spring was nice to play with when messing around with quick little scripts I found.
<2> I just decided it was time to look round and see if there was something out there to play more with
<0> *nod*
<1> I always wanted to learn Scheme, seems really really powerful
<2> if I don't find something with advantage to my current work it just goes on a bin list for later thought
<1> sure has 'weird' syntax, but it looks justified by its power :)
<0> I actually started to look at armed bear common lisp (runs in java) the other day
<3> lisp will seriously **** with your head and how you think about programming
<2> since my brother got a little better I've done a lot less work this week
<3> in a good way though



<2> nmp please watch your language this is a chan for all ages and cultures, please help keep it accessible
<0> calchas, how much longer are you in uk for?
<2> til Monday
<2> it's been rather scary so far
<0> *nod*
<3> sorry about that old bead ; )
<3> *old bean
<3> um, i think there may have been a misunderstanding there.....
<3> what was the kick for?
<0> nnp, no misunderstanding. I imagine calchas is under alot of stress lately, and any amount of inane stupid annoying behaviour is likely to cause a kick more than usual
<2> and talios just saved you from a ban
<1> crap, enums can't be parametrized
<2> attempting sarcasm or insult to those you do not know is not the best way to communicate
<0> plus he's sensitive about his age ;)
<2> you were asked politely to moderate your langauge smart comments are not a sensible response
<3> sarcasm? insult? what the hell? i said f**k....once?
<2> no
<2> it was you comment after that
<1> language question: what 'old bean' means?
<3> um...."sorry about that ol' bean" ....... thats a turn of phrase...not an insult....
<3> calm down for gods sake
<2> inane comment pointed towards overly proper upper cl*** idiots in uk
<1> thanks calchas
<0> calchas, at least he could call ya paddy or make some irish joke ;-)
<2> lol
<2> if he were english and face to face that comment could well get a punch on the nose in that context
<2> if he is actually forign he should stick to language he understands
<1> in fear of a kick for asking too much offtopic questions /me asks what 'paddy' means, dictionary doesn't have anything relevant
<2> paddy is short for Pattrick
<1> wow :) and thanks
<2> it's also used to refer to irishmen
<2> it's not often derogotory but can be in context
<1> thanks
<0> just pointing out someones irish is bad enough - no need to rub it in :)
<2> lol
<2> and currently visiting uk (se coast)
<1> hehe, if you have any questions about polish I'm at your service :P
<2> talios mark is about to lose hi hair as well now, but it's funny, he doesnt wince when they change the dressing on his central line, so he gave his beard (scruffy affair, not usual, due to not being allowed to shave) a tug and the hair comes out without any effort or pain
<2> as he's a guy it's not a big deal
<2> current joke is that it will grow back curly
<0> ?
<2> yep
<2> Albie = uncle Mark = brother
<2> he has some very pretty nurses on his ward, including some in my age bracket
<0> lucky him :)
<2> the short term effects of the treatment are just as scary as you imagine though
<2> he was running a 40C fever for 2 days, has come out of it now though, just hope the next infection holds off for a bit
<4> ese
<4> hallo
<1> hi Fowli
<5> http://caustictech.typepad.com/caustictech/
<6> vas ist?
<5> guten morgen joe.
<7> hey any one can guide me to a good j2me site
<5> not i
<7> ?



<7> u dont know?
<1> people should learn how to use google, really
<2> lol
<2> hi Clackwell
<6> Clackwell: sounds like he's imitating hani :)
<6> ... except he did it quite a while ago
<2> hi joe
<6> hey calchas
<2> again
<6> http://cr***.on.ru/flash/pingpong.html
<8> jottinger: That is amazing.
<6> isn't it?
<8> Yes, that's what I said.
<6> I was just happily ***enting
<8> I wondered what the smell was.
<9> :o
<6> whoops
<10> yeah. you gun-toting crazy people! ;)
<6> I don't tote a gun
<10> ah well. the rest is true anyway ;)
<8> jottinger is but one person.
<9> not in his head
<6> shows what you know
<6> I'm actually a conglomeration of a whole bunch of people walking by the same laptop
<6> except when we hijack screen, you moron
<10> jottinger is rally just a mnemonic for the whole nation of azerbadjan.
<6> well, that's just wrong, because sometimes Bobby doesn't know how to get the screen session back
<6> **** you, Sam
<6> don't use bad language, John
<6> This is Paul
<6> It's not John?
<6> No, this is Paul
<8> Ringo?
<6> There IS no Ringo
<9> :D
<9> screen -x++
<10> jottinger: you happen to have Elvis in there?
<9> I used to use it as a teaching tool :P
<8> screen doesn't respond well to SSH timeouts.
<6> there might be an elvis here
<9> so don't let SSH timeout!
<6> ricky_clarks: we've never had a problem with it here
<10> ricky_clarks: havnt' had a problem with that..
<9> and yeah, honestly, screen makes ssh timeouts more tolerable
<8> I have to back in and kill the bash and screen session before I reconnect to screen.
<6> our network's really unstable, so we just pick it right back up
<6> why?
<9> if ssh dies, just shell back in and reconnect to the screen session,
<8> There's a bug report, I'll give you a URL.
<9> and you're right back where you started
<6> that sounds like a really broken system... what do you use?
<9> yea that does sound broken :P
<6> If my session gets axed, I just ssh back in, screen -rd, done
<8> It hangs for 10 or 15 minutes.
<10> Our internet trafic here goes over a VPN tunnel maintained by a ferret with ADD, so the ssh-timeouts and disconnect code has been extensivly tested by me
<6> right, what are you using, ricky_clarks?
<8> https://savannah.gnu.org/bugs/?func=detailitem&item_id=14942
<6> what are you using, though?
<8> jottinger: client, nutty (putty with URL recognition).
<8> jottinger: server, whatever pr3d4t0r set up. I can tell you stuff but I don't know it.
<10> ricky_clarks: ah, well, if that is borken, then it's solved by using screen -D to force a detach before reconnecting to screen.
<8> wlfshmn: That hangs.
<10> I admitedly hav eto do that once in a while, but havn't considered it broken code
<10> ricky_clarks: not for me it doesn't..
<8> Well, you're lucky in that you're not me then.
<6> we should make fun of eugene then
<6> sounds like lavender is broken for real
<11> Isabel10: FOAD
<10> eugene?


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