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<0> "sources?"
<0> "uhm, yes, on irc"
<0> "you asked complete strangers on irc?"
<1> "and she was hot!"
<1> "I mean, uh, hawt"
<1> "she said her name was bob"
<1> "I don't get that but she said it could be done, eh"
<2> hi
<2> ers and 81331 invisible on 27 servers
<2> 58 operator(s) onli
<2> huh?
<0> ult0r: is that your java specific question?
<2> sorry, sth wrong with keyboard
<2> :-)
<3> anybody know if its possible to get the javax.comm package working on a windows platform ?
<2> btw. Clackwell, can I paste link to my J2ME tutorial here?
<1> X-Treme: uh, yes
<3> that might sound like a stupid questions but I read this on sun.java.com -> "Implementations of the API are currently available for Solaris SPARC, Solaris x86, and Linux x86"
<0> universities have really picked up on the javacomm thing now. ;)
<2> re, phone battery died
<0> X-Treme: look around for rxtx and general information about javacomm, esp. since 2.0
<0> ult0r: who would it help, irc being such a temporary medium?
<3> alright, ty
<2> dunno
<2> I just wrote a text on writing games in NetBeans
<2> http://tinyurl.com/dlo2n
<2> lame hehe
<0> ult0r: publish via blog or website and make sure google finds it?
<2> but the idea of the game is funny
<1> writing games in netbeans is different than in other IDEs?
<2> the same
<2> but lots of begginers just don't know how to start
<1> note that netbeans.org is screaming for content
<2> and in NetBeans it's trivial
<2> think so jottinger?
<1> they'd be beyond thrilled to see what you wrote
<1> ult0r: yes
<2> hah ok, thx
<0> ult0r: sounds like you should find better places to publish quality content than irc.
<1> it's like gl***fish, too
<1> when you write something up with gl***fish, the gl***fish project gets ecstatic
<2> in fact i'm on holidays now on Bali
<2> just installed mIRC
<2> and try to use GPRS
<2> but the price is a robbery
<2> 2.5$ for 1MB
<1> ouch
<1> in that case, I'd send lines to IRC less frequently - use longer sentences and you'll save bytes :)
<2> whn bts is mony
<2> ned 2 write shrter ;-)
<1> sending fewer lines works better, since when you send stuff to an irc server you include your nick/hostmask, channel, other stuff
<1> when you save five bytes by making your text incomprehensible, you're still sending about 25 bytes you don't need to... every line
<1> so you saved 10 bytes by mangling your text and lost 25+ by using two lines :)
<2> thanks, I'll be saving 0.05$ per line :-)
<4> that smiley face is gonna cost ya
<1> hey, it adds up
<1> I'm off
<5> ult0r: I can imagine a few ways that ops and opers can save you significantly more money.
<2> yeh, +b would work best hehe
<6> hmm
<6> time to fire up those 100mbit floodbots and target ult0r :P
<2> and the real problem is that you are right, indeed I would pay for it
<4> anyone know an excellent online java tutorial that literally holds your hand in programming?
<2> maybe I should just make a complaint later and say someoen flooded me
<2> and I'll not pay
<6> thats what you get for bein on Bali while the rest of use are freezing our ***ess off in 0.9c cold weather
<0> anomaly: sun java tutorial, thinking in java. head first java if you feel like buying a book.
<4> man, if its where i think it is
<4> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/ is this what you mean for the sun java tutorial?
<2> znabela, after october bombs is very empty here
<2> and hotel prices dropped very low
<0> anomaly: that is the sun java tutorial, yes.
<0> anomaly: this is a better one: TUTINDEX Quickly locate information about your topic of interest in the *big* tutorial index: http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/reallybigindex.html
<0> (better link, to the same tutorial)
<4> oooo
<4> thanks clack!
<7> hello, I'm having trouble understanding how you can access a text file on your pc and transform it into a string. COuld anyone give me some help with this?
<8> just use a stream to read from the file
<8> like java.io.BufferedReader
<8> it has a readLine method
<8> to read line by line
<0> WebmanQ: also there are several things on that in the faq
<7> I started reading the FAQ and tried it out but there are several things I don't understand, mostly with the problems with exceptions
<8> then learn about exceptions first
<8> http://java.sun.com/docs/books/tutorial/essential/exceptions/index.html
<7> ok, I guess there isn't a cl*** available that handels the entire reading and writing of a text file?
<0> WebmanQ: also there are several things on that in the faq
<0> should i say "our faq"?
<8> there are cl***es for that
<0> WebmanQ: yes, basically you need to know what you are doing in java.
<8> but if you try to read a file and its not there you need to handle exceptions like FileNotFound
<8> first things first, read about exceptions
<8> then you can learn about input and outputstreams
<7> ok... i'll read some more
<7> thx ;)
<9> I need a fast long->int map (or sparse int array with long indices) that has less than one object overhead per non-zero value. does anyone known a good implementation? or how would you implement it (balanced tree implementation using arrays?)
<8> no clue
<8> maybe ask in #math or something
<9> hm, it's probably somewat java specific, because of the lack of pointers
<8> well there are references
<10> luite: IIRC there was some data-oriented library at CERN
<9> colt?
<9> it does have some sparse matrix implementation that might be usable, thanks
<9> hm, still uses one object per cell
<8> fatbrain
<11> rob_uknow
<12> fatbrain
<12> :D
<11> hehe, lo NeoFuture :)
<12> lo matey
<12> fancy seeing you in here lol
<11> You've finally dragged yourself into #java :)
<12> i got an impossible mission to complete
<12> hehe
<11> Why's that?
<11> rather, what's the mission?
<12> oh long story you know that affinity im working on
<12> i need a demo of a stand alone app running background on winblows and im trying to find some tech to make the demo
<12> www.neofuture.co.uk/screenshots/proto.jpg
<12> theres a photoshop version lol
<11> hehe, yeah that sounds like a mission-impossible
<8> what is impossible?
<11> won't the ps version suffice?
<11> ^
<11> ^^
<12> nah these are people from the bank were going for some R&Dfunding
<12> rob_uknow whats impossible is the deadline and my lack of knowlegde of java
<12> the whole thing with affinity is the window styling which is why the customised UI
<8> scale up your resources
<12> there is only me
<12> im alrady scalled up a lot lol
<8> then you are screwed
<8> but where is the problem?
<12> i dont know how to make the theme i want to make to make my UI look the same as that with full drag and resize resources, i can do the photoshop images np i just cant do the rest lol
<12> if you have intenet explorer handy http://www.neofuture.co.uk/remote_start.php
<8> thats one ugly gui
<12> thanks
<8> but I don't see anything special
<12> define special
<12> lol
<8> well, I don't see special gui components
<8> nothing that can't be done with swing
<12> its not gui
<12> its the minimise max windows controls and titleBar design and window borders
<8> thats not very special
<12> it is if i dont know how to do it
<8> you have several options
<8> you either handle the drawing of those icons yourself
<8> or you replace the standard icons
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