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<0> znabela : You heard about the Romanian Dankort stunt ?
<1> yep, fortunately i dont live in copenhagen
<0> I do, and I traded in Arnold Busck (the place where they got the numbers from, presumably)
<0> I think I bought the book cash though.
<0> Police still dont know how they did it... Tough luck for us, since they even can't find the Team Gilmore Girls
<2> Is there another way to add vectors in a jtable other then new jtable(vector, vector)?
<2> I would like to do it with something like tablename.add(vector, vector); or something, since Im creating the JTable before there is any values in the vectors
<3> could somebody please take a look at my project? i cant solve the error whatsoever (some thread problem?); http://folk.ntnu.no/~peroyvin/project.rar ; this is a server/client app, and i need to run multiple clients to test multiple connections. when i try to run one "server" and one "client", everything hangs when i try to run the app a third time
<4> aerosoul: got source code?
<0> or testcase
<4> hi teraman
<0> mr clickgood
<3> i pasted the url
<3> http://folk.ntnu.no/~peroyvin/project.rar
<4> aerosoul: consider internet pastebins, like www.pastebin.com
<3> i didnt want to use that, its 9 small cl***es.
<4> having someone analyse your complete project is quite demanding.
<4> i can only see one file in that rar, size ca. 450 bytes.
<4> (filzip cannot extract it however)
<4> aerosoul: possibly useful: TESTCASE The SSCCE - Short, Self Contained, Correct (Compilable), Example: http://www.physci.org/codes/sscce.jsp (mirror: http://javafaq.mine.nu/lookup?364)
<3> Clackwell; try http://folk.ntnu.no/~peroyvin/project.zip
<3> i need to be this demanding because im stuck like hell :P
<4> test case route can help, often
<3> i might add that no IOExceptions are thrown (i have some empty catch blocks)
<4> you do? moron.
<4> e.printStackTrace(); unless you know why not :)
<3> or - no. in project.zip the printstacktrace is added
<4> haha, ok
<3> but no stacktrace is printed whatsoever
<3> the app is slow on loading even at the first client
<3> "when i try to run one "server" and one "client", everything hangs when i try to run the app a third time"
<3> could you have a look?
<3> i think the error is in the threading. but not sure what.
<3> i bet you see the error at once
<4> too much code, sorry
<3> aight
<3> thanks anyway
<3> whats a test case route
<0> aerosoul : Check you remember to reset all variables
<0> and try to figure out where it hangs by using System.out.println here and there
<4> aerosoul: TESTCASE The SSCCE - Short, Self Contained, Correct (Compilable), Example: http://www.physci.org/codes/sscce.jsp (mirror: http://javafaq.mine.nu/lookup?364)
<0> or possibly commenting out code you think might be the hanging part
<0> Clackwell : First link hasnt worked for ages.
<4> yeah, ****s. they fix it now and then. had it working for a few weeks, after being broken for months. then it went down again.
<3> Clackwell; could you please try running the code? so i can verify if it crashes on other systems too?
<4> aerosoul: too much code, sorry
<0> aerosoul : You have won a free hunting trip with **** Cheney as a consolement.
<0> :P
<3> I FIXED THE PROBLEM!
<3> now i can sleep!
<5> Hi, I am new to JAVA. Why I rebuild a java applet then load it offline in the browser, but the applet does not seen to been modified? The browser loads the old one. I have clear history and also delete temporarily internet file, but the browser still load the old one.
<6> close the browser and reopen it
<5> I have close the browser and reopen it, but the same thing happen
<6> oh
<7> does anyone here have any familiarity with Flash?
<7> more specifically Flash MX?
<8> um
<8> flash + java -> not a good idea?
<8> flash is for animations
<8> that's really all it should be used for
<7> i realize that but i figured anybody who knows Java may be familiar with website design and thats what i am looking for
<8> that is a really _bad_ ***umption
<8> since java is not web design...
<8> you _might_ have better luck in #php if someone feels nice
<8> you try #flash
<7> i realive that but java is used for web progamming
<8> applets != web dev
<9> any good JMS provider ?
<10> ??
<9> is there any good jms provider
<9> any reviews on ActiveMQ from you guys?
<11> java is so complicated its almost redundant
<11> what the heck is the purpose of a java bean, session, jar bean, and what not
<12> krzkrzkrz: you talk about particular APIs and not java as a language
<13> in a sense those are object to make things easier
<14> KaZeKaGe: mag simba ka nang may bulak sa ilong
<13> javaq_, : ikaw din sama kita
<14> KaZeKaGe: ustfu
<14> KaZeKaGe: do some more reading
<13> why?
<13> <14> KaZeKaGe: mag simba ka nang may bulak sa ilong >> what is this all about?
<15> morning
<13> mornin Argenti
<16> morning
<17> is it true that java is the best language for networking ?
<18> Depends on what you intend to do.
<17> i am trying to learn c++ and the teacher told me is better to learn java , but i am not sure why he recommened me that language , he told me is better for networking as i told you .
<18> Erag0n: The statement is too generic to validate. I wouldn't use java for low-lever networking, but applications simply using networking can be implemented as well in java as anywhere else, possibly even better.
<17> And what`s your opinion about java , is it dificult to learn or easy as any language ? ( i know it isnt the best question could someone do but who knows )
<18> Erag0n: I find java to be an easy language to learn, easier than many as it's rather strict and encurages, in most cases, good code
<18> There are probably more obscure languages that are even better for teaching, but java is also a usefull skill in real life, whereas the amount of commercial haskel project I've seen have bene limited
<19> i am trying to generate rtf with jfor. the output is pretty strange though. is anyone familiar with this package?
<17> ok thank you .
<20> i prefer c++ to be honest but java can put together highlevel networking stuff much easier (for a beginnner anyway). If you do it in c or c++ though you will gain a much better understanding of whats actually going on though
<16> C is the way to go for that
<20> yea, c++ doesnt actually have any thing to do with it really unless you create your own wrapper cl***es (which i recommend)
<17> ok thanks a lot for the awnsers
<4> Erag0n: learning java may be easier than c++. plus you will have a hard time to avoid object-orientation when learning java. it seems to me that you can learn enough c++ to feel confident in it while never grasping object-orientation.
<4> Erag0n: your teacher's suggestion was probably not really about technical merits, but rather educational ones.
<21> this isn't strictly a java question, but what's the best protocol to use when writing an API for my application?
<21> SOAP, WSDL?
<21> anyone?
<12> read more about it Gorf
<21> i'm just wondering if any of you guys have a preference, i've not really wrote apps that allow other apps to talk to.
<16> depends on what you need
<12> that depends on many factors, for example I'm using a custom XML-based protocol which is perfect for our app but could be totally unsuitable for yours
<21> how do you p*** the xml backwards and forwards?
<21> over IP?
<16> Gorf: sure, tcp/ip
<12> sockets
<16> most protocols use http
<21> cool, that's what i'd have thought.
<12> TCP sockets
<21> i was thinking custom XML-based protocol actually, just wondered what additional benefits SOAP might offer?
<21> i do plan to read up on it more, don't get me wrong.
<12> hehe, bloat and being slow ;)
<21> heh
<21> any negatives? ;)
<21> then again, there's XML-RPC too... :S
<12> hm, that would be it's standardized ;)
<21> i think i'm leaning towards custom XML-based.
<21> probably a lot easier to implement too.
<12> for example see huf.sf.net, package huf.unibus
<21> what's HUF btw?
<21> ah, got it. handful...
<22> Anyone good a loop invariants? (Damn thats boring) :P
<23> What's a loop invariant?
<22> some kind of exspression , wich explains a loop in some way.
<23> That's gabble.
<4> no idea what a loop invariant is.
<4> hi ricky, everyone
<12> hi Blackwell
<4> hallo gilead
<22> http://academic.evergreen.edu/curricular/dsa01/loops.html
<23> Clackwell: In the Metro (free commuter newspaper) today, "Slimline tonic for reborn Blackwell" - about Ian Blackwell, a cricketeter. ;)
<23> s/etet/et/
<4> well, yeah, blackwell seems to be a normal name, too. like clarkson. :) or ottinger
<23> grim123: So, .. a loop invariant is a comment. Great.
<23> I'm pretty good at comments.
<23> 's enormous nostrils.
<4> oh stop picking, it isn't my fault that my parents didn't keep me from picking my nose
<23> With a shoehorn.
<24> who has java games for k750i?
<22> me me me me me ...
<4> http://www.winterrowd.com/maze1.swf
<23> Clackwell: Haha.
<23> I cheated.
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