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<0> to grok how to do JSF at all, you have to, like grok JSF
<1> doh
<0> that's what I've been saying to them for a while - JSF's initial dip is too deep for most people to want to bother
<0> once you understand it better, you can do some really nice and elegant things with it, but you acquire lumps along the way
<1> *nod*
<1> Wicket was quite easy to grok which was a big big plus in my book. Having a quick-start IDEA project that embedded jetty and let you run and play instantly was also a big big bonus
<0> the people who write the docs, however, already understand it, so they don't understand why users don't pick up all 8 concepts as they go
<0> I looked at Wicket, but I find that the model isn't quite what I wanted
<0> It's simple enough, but reminded me too much of tapestry
<0> all right, I'm off
<0> have a good day, guys
<1> seeya
<0> oh god, people are stupid
<0> urrrrgh
<1> dare I look..



<0> talking about jboss
<0> gavin king drove ejb3 persistence, did you know that? :)
<1> you mean he buttraped the most people?
<0> haha
<0> well, most people who think that haven't ever used other stuff that preceded hibernate... like toplink
<1> not used toplink, but am aware of it.
<0> it's the EJB3 reference impl
<0> anyway, I'm off
<1> 1:30am, I shoud go as well
<2> i keep getting a java.security.AccessControlException: access denied (java.io.FilePermission images/08.png read) for my applet, how do I get around this?
<3> make sure it gets the image from the codebase
<3> image = getImage(getDocumentBase(), "http://hostname/image.gif";);
<3> documentbase
<4> or getCl***().getCl***Loader().getResource(...) to access files in your .jar
<2> hmm, cannot find symbol method getDocumentBase()
<3> its a method of Applet
<2> ah, ok
<2> i'm guessing i have to p*** the instantiation of the Applet into the other cl*** that's loading images
<3> or the documentbase
<5> can you add icons to Swing JButtons?
<3> yes
<3> see the apidocs
<5> :) cheers
<6> hey do you guys know of any free java chat clients that allow you to integrate with an existing mysql p***word schema?
<4> no
<7> hi
<3> funkular
<7> im gertting my javadoc ant task working
<7> it cant find com.sun.* cl***es from the @see tags
<8> do you guys know of some i18n checking ant task ? something that finds all strings in the sources and gives a warning if they're not bundle.getString() or something ?
<3> write your own task
<8> Rob_uknow, yeah, because i18n is like... unheard of ?
<7> use checkstye
<7> checkstyle
<7> extend it with your ownr ule
<7> rule
<8> funkular, hmm, we already have checkstyle
<7> then read up on it
<8> funkular, does checkstile offer a parsed tree or something for the java source ?
<7> read up on it.
<7> i have to to answer you
<5> any of you chaps know how to change the size of an outer border, in a java frame that is set to border layout? preferably as a percentage of the overal screen
<7> setMargin
<7> or Inset
<5> it doesn't seem to have a setmargin or inset property, the layout manager that is.
<5> basically i want the .SOUTH part of the screen to always take up a quarter of the overall screen space
<4> Czu_ZzZ: borderlayout respects setPreferredSize of component
<4> namely south respects preferred height
<5> wolfey - but i can't have it do a percentage? i'll need to do that manually
<4> Czu_ZzZ: you can override frame setSize ... to always set south preferredSize to quarter of new size
<4> i think
<4> dont forget to super.setSize firs
<9> Does anyone know how to install J2ME or CLDC?
<10> am overriding the tostring() with a stringbuffer b, in the end i return the string with b.toString().....does this mean am calling my own overriding toString or the original toString?
<4> :))
<4> is b
<4> instance of cl*** you override toString() ?
<11> try toString( ...
<10> its an instance of StringBuffer, declared inside the toString am overriding
<4> well you arent overriding StringBuffer's toString()...
<4> :)



<11> it mean you call your extended method
<10> public String toString( ) {
<11> ChAoTiC` if you extend a cl*** and implement a method signature from the super cl*** that is overriding
<10> oops...sorry bout that
<11> do not paste in here
<11> see faq
<4> calchas: that faq is supposedly not working
<11> have you tested it?
<4> no
<4> but others were complaining:)
<11> ok
<11> ChAoTiC` see the FAQ
<11> whiteboard to upload
<4> http://pastebin.com always works
<11> let me know if there is a problem
<11> wolfey I did test it
<11> ChAoTiC` are you extending StringBuffer ?
<10> hey....nope....i think i got it now....
<11> ok
<10> thanks
<4> calchas: sorry to bother you
<11> np
<4> kids wanting to learn java:)
<11> you mean aldora11 and linda12 ?
<4> yes
<4> :)
<11> no, but if you know better let me know
<4> joking
<7> hi calchas
<7> i'm trying to learn clearcase.
<7> clearcase "base" to be precise.
<12> The U.N. implmented it.
<12> known as UNclearcase
<4> ?
<4> :)
<13> talking of the UN
<4> http://86.61.41.239/RETARDED.jpg
<13> did u hear Al Quada they put a bounty on kofi annan's head?
<12> Is this a joke, Deano ?
<13> http://tinyurl.com/hpstp
<12> oh no. And I thought my joke was bad.
<13> heh I tried to get to the next level of rubbishness
<13> and succeeded
<12> but I just gave up after having met the acronym of it several times...
<12> the " BS effect "
<13> heh
<4> bull****?
<4> :)
<11> hi funkular
<7> hi
<7> learnign clearcase is complex
<7> im the build master. got to design clearcase usage for the build.
<4> poor u
<7> yup
<7> After coming up with a proposed design, i've got to spek with the cc admin
<12> and?
<14> sup
<14> hi Rob_uknow
<3> caverdude
<7> jboss sold to redhat.
<7> wow,im behind on the news.
<4> funkular: ::)
<7> i was reasdinf theregister about it. funny thing about the comments/blog fluery made.
<14> I thought JBoss was open source
<3> so?
<3> jboss was also the name of the company
<14> hrm
<14> ok
<14> i see
<3> if you think something is opensource it automatically means its free?
<14> well the software anyway


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