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<0> :))
<1> any idea?
<1> :)
<0> dunno.. see if there's any opensource project
<0> like this http://gchch.sourceforge.net/
<2> PircBot IRC API is pretty good for writing bots.
<0> mazov: you can make bot for my game too
<0> :))
<0> :))
<1> the only problem is that i have to do it in java, implementing the minimax algorithm, AI ****
<1> :))
<0> you dont know java?
<0> or what?
<3> morning
<0> good mowning jottinger



<1> yes i do of course, but i'd really love to cut my work short if u know what i mean :))
<0> hire a freelancer:)))))))))))))
<1> :))
<0> mazov: cmon you need some practise
<1> so ur saying im better off doing it
<1> yeah right
<1> :))
<0> be nice, develop all and publish i
<0> it
<0> ;)
<0> we of course wanna play
<0> :)
<3> mazov: what's the project
<0> jottinger: are you german?
<3> wolfey: no
<1> here's the link if u guys wanna have a look
<1> http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/compsci366s1c/***ignments/366%20***ignment%201.htm
<0> your nick sounds so
<3> my name is joe ottinger
<3> mazov: I'd rather you just said what it was :)
<0> jottinger: oh sorry
<0> mazov: looks like fun
<1> jottinger: an implementation of the minimax algorithm for a checkers playing bot.
<0> apart from AI it's trivial
<4> mazov, you'r at auckland uni?
<0> and you are supposed to learn AI
<0> right?
<1> talios yes, you too?
<4> mazov, nope - but I work in Queen Street
<1> small world :))
<4> whose you're tutor?
<4> thou I only really know the software engineering guys, not the cs
<0> http://bsn-61-12-233.dial-up.dsl.siol.net/RETARDED.jpg
<1> no tutor for this paper
<5> any java game for my mobile phone? motorolla v360...
<4> not here.
<5> ok
<0> :))
<0> :))
<4> heh
<0> http://bsn-61-12-233.dial-up.dsl.siol.net/hu/
<0> ammusing isnt it?
<0> :)
<4> :)
<0> talios: i harr***ed sun.com guys a bit
<0> they agree it's ready
<0> :))
<4> :)
<0> ;)
<0> i love this corp
<0> unlike M$ they are way cool
<3> hmm, sun has real problems
<3> they're getting better, but...
<0> jottinger: dunno i love Java. if not for Java, i'd be stuck with stinking C
<3> yeah, but that doesn't mean sun rocks as a lace to work
<3> s/lace/place/



<4> Sun does alot of stinkin C
<3> indeed, they have some absolutely killer C compilers
<0> YEAH:)
<3> I need to update to b43, I think
<4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hr2inu76z34 "It ****s to be Frodo" TV add for LoTR - heh
<6> Sun is the second last place I'd work
<0> after M$?
<6> after IBM
<0> ::)
<6> I used to work with Sun retards
<6> when I worked for IBM
<0> dobblego: why retards?
<6> Iasked myself that every day, until I resigned
<0> what makes them retards?
<6> nothing - I exaggerated - they, like most corporations, are not so clever
<6> I worked mostly with JSR "expert" groups when I was implementing one of the J2EE specs.
<3> dobblego: which one?
<6> and also on the J2SE implementation I dealt with Sun indirectly
<6> jottinger: JSR-115 (JACC)
<6> (more than anything - there were others I was less involved in)
<4> jottinger, seen this: http://www.mcsweeneys.net/2006/4/3fezzell.html - The Nihilist's resume.
<4> amusing to read.
<6> I upset my former employer last week and got my email address put on their spam list - pretty amusing :)
<4> Note: don't use former employer as reference on resume.
<6> they got upset because I spoke the truth on a public forum - any future employer is welcome to see it
<6> I'm supposed to talk in euphemisms when in public
<4> heh
<6> calling them "retards" is just being silly and obnoxious
<0> ::)
<4> jottinger, http://www.intellij.net/forums/thread.jspa?threadID=214546&tstart=0 <- NPE ;p ewps.
<4> heh
<3> how's the new EAP?
<4> it started - that's as far as I've got with it.
<4> Still can't compile up the TestNG plugin with it thou :(
<3> I'm waiting for the EAPs to get more stable before I resume them
<3> In the meantime, Netbeans 5.5 has actually proven workable, although similarly unstable :)
<4> They've been pretty stable for what i'm using (outside of the TestNG plugin that is).
<3> ejb3 support?
<3> jsf support?
<0> 5.0 is fine
<0> :P
<4> jottinger, not using either;p
<3> talios: *nod*
<4> using hibernate3 and hibernate annotations in one project, but not any of their funky ejb3 foo.
<3> I've been working with java ee 5, deployment and development is important right now
<3> I'm looking forward to the next milestone for netbeans, though
<3> should be around a month away now :(
<4> how are you finding jsf?
<3> it's... uh...
<3> hard to say, really, I don't have the experience I need to give it a fair shake
<3> that, in itself, is a clue to how good it is
<3> OTOH, I've spent a fair amount of time bitching at JSF participants explaining what they need to fix :)
<4> At least you've not shaken your fist at it and punched the nearest developer :P
<4> oh ok - i spoke too soon.
<3> heh
<3> Well, it's actually not too bad
<3> It's nowhere near as elegant as WW2, but has, um, some advantages
<4> I've been playing with Wicket lately which I'm liking.
<4> certainly a step up from Struts which I'm cursing more and more each day at work ;
<4> ;)
<3> heh
<3> talios: JSF has advantages in lifecycle management, standardization, container integration... and project stability
<3> plus, it's part of java ee 5, which is more important than I thought
<4> *nod*
<3> to wit: the Java EE 5 annotation processing doesn't apply to webwork actions, but DOES to JSF backing beans
<3> project stability is also a huge factor. I'm interested - VERY interested - in seeing how JSF handles load, though, because some people have tried and found it a bit wanting (to say the least)
<4> is it a steep learning curve? for the basics?
<3> oh god yes
<3> that's the worst part of JSF by far
<3> to grok how to do JSF at all, you have to, like grok JSF


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