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<0> hello, im currently building a java web application with Spring and Tomcat 5, but i can't get the normal <welcome-page> web.xml tag to work, anyone ever had problems like this?
<1> meh.. and he leaves before I can offer a suggestion.. impatient people, not bothering to even wait a full hour for #java to answer ;)
<2> how to make a thimble of 1/3.8 ?
<2> 1 chance out of 3.8
<2> "throw" it and win or not
<2> if would be 1 out of 4
<2> random(4)
<2> and if its 1/4 then win
<2> ...but 3.8... ?
<3> so look into java.util.Random.
<3> and write your own method around it.
<2> i imported Random how do i use it
<3> check the API docs.
<2> this is crap
<2> why now Math.random
<2> why not
<4> hehe..
<3> agh: because its a bit useless?
<2> math.random ?
<3> from the top of my mind such a cl*** does exist though.
<3> or rather; method.
<3> but if it is random numbers you're after then the Random cl*** is IMO your best bet anyway.
<5> how come i am able to p*** private instance variables to methods in another cl*** in main? since main is static isn't outside of any cl***?
<2> cl***.getPrivateVariable
<3> dga: without more context thats impossible to answer. main isn't outside of any cl***.
<2> Cl***1.method(Cl***2.getPrivateVariable())
<3> dga: the only thing special about main is that the JVM will start a thread to execute it.
<3> agh: you're talking nonsense.
<2> Instance1.method(Instance2.getPrivateVariable())
<2> Instance2.getPrivateVariable() returns the private variable you want to return of Instance2
<3> dga: be sure you're not mixing up instance variables with cl*** variables.
<3> agh: no it doesn't.
<4> for one thing, don't capitalize instance names
<2> well
<4> second, i don't see what's the big deal.. seems you're just describing a method of a cl*** accessing a variable.. that's perfectly legal..
<4> in your example, it's actually instanc2 that's calling the method, then you push a copy of it for instance1..
<4> nothing unusual there
<3> Apart from the fact that its lousy programming (private is private for a reason) and not what dga was asking about.
<4> hrm..
<4> please explain it to me..
<5> http://javafaq.mine.nu/lookup?4&wb=true <-i'm not understanding why the println in main doesn't give compiler error
<4> what's wrong now dga?
<4> (i'm way too lazy to follow links..)
<5> i thought main was not local to any particular cl***
<4> so it belongs to the aether? what?
<3> dga: I just explained above.
<3> dga: main is part of the cl***, its a method like any other. The special thing... see above.
<4> lion-o.. i think he may be thinking of global methods like in C/C++..
<6> heh
<4> dga, you should really lean the language before you ask such elementary questions..
<6> thinking in C/C++ when you should be thinking in Java is pretty stupid
<4> yeah, next he'll be asking why + works on strings..
<3> more like why ("name" == "name") doesn't seem to match :P
<4> well, i got nothing against the guy, but he definitely needs some tough love in this instance :)
<4> btw, sorry about the physics reference..
<4> so when do you guys think java will die?
<4> i noticed nokia phone now run on symbian os.. that made me wonder
<4> and after all these years there are still no java processors? i thought this was the master plan.. hrm
<4> then i run the sun vm, which claims it's a jit, but it's dog slow still.. who's running this company?
<4> go look at the sunw stock chart.. in jan'02 it was at 15, then dropped to 5 and stayed at 5 since then..
<3> it would seem we have a troll in here. Thats good to know.
<4> i think sun is a good case study for how technology is not the deciding factor in the computer business..
<3> well, fortunatly there are plenty of people who have a wider focus and don't suffer from tunnel vision :P
<4> who?
<3> see? thats what I mean :)
<4> hehe
<4> people have dollar signs in their eyes..
<3> and some people have mud in their eyes.
<3> I think you're calling the kettle that he's black :P
<4> multi user d&d?
<3> dude, you should spend less time trolling on irc and actually go out in the open for a chance. It helps your chances of following serious and non-serious conversations a /lot/.
<4> hrm, at least i'm not judging somebody and presuming to everything about them from a 5 min irc conversation, i think you should take your own advice, buddy
<3> bpj1138: suffering from amnesia too?
<4> i get on irc once in a blue moon, how much do you irc?
<3> you just judged an entire company based on flawed data :)
<4> huh? a stock chart is flawed?
<3> depends on the way you look at it and the kind of conclusions you draw from it.
<3> need I explain that too? its amazing... So... a 3 year company makes a major profit in its 2nd year, and loses some in its second. Now I look at the 2nd year and claim the company to go on booming streak? I don't think so. Anyway, work it out, have fun, troll on :P
<4> i can understand why you're upset that sun is doing so badly, i am too, but don't take it out on me.. i'm not the enemy
<4> and if you don't believe my conclusions, go read "dealers of lighting"..
<4> lightning..
<4> the computer business is full of politics and stupid people.. that's nothing new
<4> hell, take the pc for example, everybody and their grandma knew it was a "piece of ****", but it won the market..
<4> ok, y'all have a nice day..
<7> Hello #java!
<6> morning
<1> morning
<8> morning
<3> afternoon
<6> hey
<1> afternoon ;)
<9> hi
<10> afternoon :)
<9> hi asriel
<9> http://home.arcor.de/blackwell/missing.jpg
<11> wtf do you mean "Unicode"? WHICH ENCODING?!
<12> Anyone here use websphere?
<12> welcome
<12> Anyone here use websphere?
<11> woo
<11> I just got our webapp running under Jetty 6
<11> Slightly painful, but not too bad. Exposed some liberties I was taking
<1> rhowe: I couldn't get JSF to work under jetty
<11> wlfshmn: Sun's JSF?
<1> no, myfaces
<11> wlfshmn: Hm.. myfaces worked for me, at least for some simple stuff
<11> wlfshmn: I never did get around to using it in anger
<11> wlfshmn: The reference implementation does some weird stuff and needs a configuration tweak to Jetty 5, not sure about 6
<1> rhowe: I'm unsure if it's actually a JSF problem of if it's a general JSP problem (I lack non-JSF JSP), but didnt' bother following thorugh, when everything worked well enoguh in tomcat for now ;)
<11> wlfshmn: Ah well, if you ever want to have a stab at getting it going, I'll try and help out, although the jetty IRC channel's probably a better ebt
<11> wlfshmn: My main problems were that I didn't have all the dependencies for Hibernate (I guess the old jetty had them included, but not the new one)
<11> wlfshmn: And they'd changed their JAAS stuff a bit, so I needed to tweak my LoginModule slightly
<11> wlfshmn: Oh, and the Jetty configuration's pretty much totally different
<1> rhowe: I'm fairly sure I have all dependencies included since the same war works in tomcat, and I don't have any ext libraries in tomcat
<11> wlfshmn: Also, do you use a logging API?
<1> I don't deal with JAAS, since I don't auth agianst anything exotic
<11> wlfshmn: AD + OpenLDAP here :)
<1> rhowe: I don't, but I have configured the simple logger jetty calls for, and commons-logging and log4j are both used by 3rd parties
<1> (and thus, libs are included)
<11> wlfshmn: you didn't include jcl104-over-slf4j or whatever it is?
<11> wlfshmn: (in place of commons-logging)
<1> not in place of, both at the same time
<11> jcl104-over-slf4j provides the commons-logging API, but directs all requests to slf4j
<1> I don't remember the error message ofhand, but it cartainly wasn't a Cl***DefNotfound atleaast ;)
<11> wlfshmn: hang on, lemme try my JSF test page..
<11> XML Parsing Error: prefix not bound to a namespace
<11> hmmm :)
<1> rhowe: no, that not the one I had ;)
<1> rhowe: mine was something about access to deffered variables or some such
<11> wlfshmn: It's OK, I'm being stupid..
<1> rhowe: probably put up by el, jasper or the jsf libs
<1> anyway, no need to waste time on it now, I'm fine with tomcat for development and I'll look back into jetty when it comes time to make a real deployment
<11> wlfshmn: *shrug* it just seems to be byp***ing the JSF servlet altogether here, and returning the JSF page
<11> wlfshmn: and yes, I am accessing it via the .faces URL, not the .jsp one :)
<11> wlfshmn: Servlet mapping is in web.xml etc.. oh well, another day
<1> indeed
<11> wlfshmn: I'm just happy to have the webapp I need up and running :)
<11> wlfshmn: Tomorrow, it's time to add some more pages to it
<11> wlfshmn: Whole ***load of wheel-reinvention to be done tomorrow :)
<1> I've got some more patching to do to catch up, then I need to figure out why acegi didnt' like me the other day and get authentication running
<13> sydney rome
<13> or sydney, australia
<14> uhmm sydney bristow
<14> hehe
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