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<0> re
<1> ok, I'm going to play with webframeworks, and I unfortunatley need to start with one. is JSF a reasonable starting point?
<0> sure
<0> it's a PITA, but sure
<1> ;)
<1> more cumbersome than required, I take it
<2> im creating a client for an rmi system. i want to create a stub, but as far as i know, to create a stub using rmic, i need to have the implementation of the server service, which i dont. i only have its location... is there something here i have not quite understood...??
<3> wlfshmn: spring seems mighty popular, depends entirely what you're after from a framework though?
<0> uhhh
<0> spring mvc is a lousy starting point for a web framework
<3> jottinger: as opposed to JSF? Or Struts/Velocity, or... there's heaps of the damned things and they're all overcomplicated.
<0> sure
<0> but spring mvc is probably worse than most
<3> probably why it's so popular then :)
<0> spring mvc isn't that popular
<4> i just wonder, which information can i able to get from the client if do not ask about permission



<0> spring is, but not spring mvc
<1> mike2_: I really don't know what I need, so my main concern is what would be a good starting point for learning what I need. If I learn that I need something else, then so be it.
<3> jottinger: my apologies, misinterpreted.
<0> wlfshmn: look at webwork, or RIFE
<0> possibly tapestry, but.... ..... ... . ... .
<1> jottinger: and we are biased about webwork, are we? ;)
<0> wlfshmn: I've never hidden my ***ociation with it
<1> jottinger: indeed
<0> I've also switched over personally to JSF
<0> and I'm looking hard at RIFE
<4> i need a uniqeu data for each client, is it possible to get without ask permission ?
<1> I wasn't even aware of RIFE's existance until just now
<0> you should read TSS more often
<0> wicket, stripes, trails, rife, tapestry, webwork, struts, jsf...
<1> jottinger: yeah, I used to read TSS, but it fell off my daily rotation as I wasa ***igned away from java projects for a while
<5> jottinger: Have you decided on your questions?
<0> no
<0> still thinking
<0> I have time :)
<5> jottinger: Got a list I can see?
<0> nope!
<5> I wouldn't do anything with them, I can't write for toffee, you know that. ;)
<5> mailto:bruce.eck
<5> oops
<0> :)
<0> it's okay, I have introductions you don't
<5> As far as you know..
<5> Ok, I don't.
<0> :)
<0> I talk to his publisher and agent
<0> do you? :)
<5> Me? I don't even read his books (much).
<0> me either really
<5> jottinger: Any more subject areas in particular that you're looking for questions in?
<0> but that doesnt mean I don't talk to people to whom he listens :)
<0> ricky_clarks: nah
<0> just general stuff, stuff you'd like to know
<0> email 'em to me
<5> ***uming you've done your research, what non-Java stuff is he into atm?
<5> As in, still programming..
<0> dunno
<0> I'm not doing a personal introspective on him
<5> Relevant: I like this: http://www.loudthinking.com/arc/000551.html
<2> java rmi: how do i make a stub of an implementation that i dont have? wud its location be enough to make the stub?
<6> s.charAt(i) return a character, right? How come this will work if array is a type of boolean: array[ s.charAt(i) = true;
<7> pardon
<7> surely that doesn't work
<6> it really does work
<7> no
<6> I just don't understand why it works
<7> it won't compile
<7> and to answer your first question you need to know what type is s
<6> s is String
<7> then look up charAt in the String api to answer it
<6> I did. String s = "M"; System.out.println( s.charAt(0) ); -> output m
<5> drittsekk: No, M.
<6> and an array of type boolean is compiling ok: array[ s.charAt(0) ] = true;
<7> drittsekk please start being more acurate, this is a science and accuracy is essential
<7> how did you define array ?
<5> calchas: That code is perfectly possible, but daft.
<6> boolean[] array = new boolean[256];



<7> I know
<6> can someone explain why this is working?
<7> what do you think the argument of array[ ... ] has to be (i.e. type) ?
<7> you can if you think
<6> int
<7> no one will answer for you, just guide you
<7> what happens to no int, integral types in arithmatic ?
<7> no = none
<7> btw calling an array 'array' is stunningly bad coding :)
<7> but that's only the start
<5> drittsekk: What happens to char, byte, short, in arithmetic?
<6> I didn't call it int in my code :-)
<6> I don't know
<7> you need to answer (for yourself) the question we have both asked
<6> ok
<7> see thejavatutorial.com
<5> drittsekk: char is a numeric type, try this: int a='a'; System.out.println(a);
<5> drittsekk: See the section on primitive types in the tutorial.
<6> ok thanks :-)
<5> And on arithmetic.
<8> does any one have a java applet for web-site based chat
<7> not I
<8> i want live chat on my site
<7> good for you, do you have server side resources ?
<8> i'm using tripod thats all
<7> forget it
<8> wont work?
<7> you need serverside resources, and you don't have them, then you need a lot of other skills
<8> could I write the code in java script instead
<8> of using an applet
<7> ROFL
<7> no
<8> oh well
<7> and it's off topic here
<8> well **** it is java isn't it
<7> no matter what language you use you need serverside resources
<7> cut that language
<8> alright thx
<8> sorry
<7> no need for it
<3> Coughman: javascript isn't java, no, and java, without some serverside hookup, won't help here sorry.
<8> thx anyway least someone helped me
<8> can you link a mirc channel
<8> on a webpage
<8> if the person has mirc
<7> try looking up JPilot or similar
<8> tried that i couldn't get connected to the server
<7> it's an applet that uses a server for irc connection
<8> it loaded and everything
<8> but couldn't connect
<7> and he error was ?
<8> failed to connect to irc.jpilot.com i think
<7> you probably should look in the console and see the whole of the connection
<7> good-luck I'm off to bed
<9> alright
<10> can anyone help me out w/ a servlet? i am trying to get a servlet to react to a HTTP POST so i implemented doPost()
<10> however, when i'm posting data from a .NET server to my servlet, nothing happens
<5> .NET isn't supposed to work, it's just an illusion.
<5> superNerd: Does it work fine from non-.NET clients?
<10> haven't tried
<5> That's not what I asked.
<11> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/tUyIn055.html any idea how to do this?
<5> abbs: Break it into stages.
<11> how?
<5> Well, imagine you are the program and I am the user.
<5> What do I do?!!
<12> wow..there is a java chat!
<5> Where?
<13> mmm, coffeee.
<12> wha? LOL
<13> kirbykirbyki, this is an expresso lovers channel.
<3> talios: espresso you infidel :P ;)
<5> talios: I ate 100g of chocolate-covered espresso beans earlier.
<13> mike2_, bah, at least its not instant.


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