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<0> rick: RJC. Is it an acronym for Revised Java Code? (Its my guess)
<0> what does that stand for?
<1> its his name
<1> :)
<2> My initials.
<0> you made it into Two cl***es. MMm... u made a new cl*** called Main. N e ways, why did you say imports are bad ideas?
<2> I said .* imports are..
<0> oh, being lazy. I don't do that when I'm really coding. kekke..
<2> 1. If you import javax.swing.*; and then type JFraim frame=new JFraim(); you'll get a compile error on JFraim, but think "but I imported it already". import javax.swing.JFraim; will give an error at that line.
<2> 2. If you import javax.swing.* and java.util.* then some bright spark in a future version of Java makes a javax.swing.Queue, your code will be ambiguous.
<2> 3. Explicit imports are good at letting you see quickly what types your code uses.
<0> k :)
<3> who knows how to make favicons here?
<2> an9eLa: JavaScript?
<4> anyone with Gimp or Photoshop
<3> actually no, but i don't know what channel to go to, to ask about that...
<3> sorry
<3> i was hoping someone knows
<4> an9eLa: probably you want some web-related channel
<3> do you know what channels?
<4> nope, sorry
<4> I don't do web stuff
<3> oh ok...
<5> hi there, I have a problem with the Java installation, anybody help, please?
<3> i tried webdesign but it says i couldn't sent to channel
<3> thanks though ^___^
<4> macbcn: ask specific questions
<5> I've installed java from java.com and then when I tried to verify the installation it says that it cannot be detected. Yet, the coffee cup appears on the taskbar.
<2> macbcn: ***ume 'yes' and carry on asking your question.
<5> When I try to log into any web that uses java (any chat), it only appears a red X
<4> tried reinstalling?
<5> I've seen the help manual on java.com and followed the procedure that sorts this problem out, related to a proxy, but it still doesn't work
<5> I've tried reinstalling it, or using firefox instead of IE
<5> but it still doesn't work
<3> oh, gilead, i got photoshop
<5> everything else works smooth, it's a clean installation, only offce and photoshop installed
<5> Flash works fine too
<4> macbcn: sounds weird
<5> yeah, too weird :-(
<0> rickety: After hearing what you told me just now leads me into asking another question. Consider this scenario, I have a Project/Cl*** that import SomeAPIa.something.A; and import SomeAPIb.something1.A;
<5> could the router be blocking something? I've stopped the norton firewall but that's not it either
<2> macbcn: http://lakeaccess.org/cl***es/JavaTrouble.html
<2> macbcn: Applet problems are normally related to the client, not routers.
<2> doseryder: Considering that.
<4> macbcn: you said it can't be 'verified' -- do you mean it's actually installed just not visible from browser or installer can't verify your installation?
<0> rickety: how can I explicitly and use specific ones within the same cl***?
<4> macbcn: try launching java config console from control panel
<5> I'm sure it's installed... well, it appears on the Control Panel
<5> it opens the console
<5> and the coffee cup appears on the taskbar
<4> so it's installed ok
<5> yep
<2> doseryder: If they have the same name, you will have to fully qualify at least one of them.
<2> doseryder: E.g., I have a cl*** that uses ipsim.util.Collection and java.util.Collection, so I fully qualify java.util.Collection, rather than import it.
<0> rickety: fully qualify? Hmm.. can u...
<2> Wherever I want java.util.Collection in that file, I type java.util.Collection instead of Collection.
<2> java.util.Collection<Type> collection=new ArrayList<Type>(); etc.
<0> rickety: generics...
<2> Fully qualify is defined in the JLS.
<2> doseryder: Generics are irrelevant.
<5> rickety: I just opened the webpage you just said. It shows the red "X". I opened the Java console and it says: "load: cl*** edu.umn.nrri.nwill.VertiScroll3.cl*** not found."
<2> That's like randomly saying "VARIABLES!"
<2> macbcn: Which browser?
<5> (that's the first line, then it keeps on showing many errors)
<5> IE
<0> okie i understand i just brought that up for no reason. keke.. but whats JLS
<5> but I've tried it with Firefox and same problem
<2> doseryder: What's google?
<2> macbcn: What version of Java have you installed?
<5> 1.5.0 (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
<2> Did you install the JRE or the JDK?
<5> ... the JRE
<5> I'm not developing
<2> macbcn: Was that output from typing java -version in a cmd?
<5> java version "1.5.0_06"
<5> Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_06-b05)
<5> Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build 1.5.0_06-b05, mixed mode, sharing)
<6> Hey talios :)
<7> re
<6> Eh?
<6> You ready to move to the big(er) smoke yet?
<7> ;p moved the desk from one wall to the other.
<7> well I'm ready to move (out of this place at least). Changing country... mmmm. not sure still ;p
<7> hey - did you send you link to flash7 streamable audio of my brothers?
<6> If you want to be a developer, or even a webtech guy, let me know - they're super keep for java geeks here
<6> You sent me some streaming link, pox
<8> :))
<6> wolfey: you in the market?
<8> still "student"
<8> :)
<7> LLyric, you're melb still?
<6> talios: yeah, I just bought some land
<6> very exciting
<6> PS: I still can't get that music from your bro's podsafe thingy.
<6> How about some plain 'ole mp3/oggs?
<7> weird
<8> LLyric: all i can do is gamespam
<8> :)
<6> I haven't set up **** on this pc, and I don't really want to :(
<7> hrm. i'm not sure I have any here ;( the ipod has them all in its archaic directories and the laptop's at work.
<2> doseryder: http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Java_Programming/StarImports
<6> Just a sec, gonna enable javascript for that site (foo)
<7> doh - don't have any of it on this machine
<6> Doesnt' seem to help
<5> so, no idea of what the problem could be?
<6> the applet/browser issue?
<6> sun jdk in IE on windows?
<5> yup
<6> Did you completely restart IE after you installed the JRE?
<5> yes, I've even restarted the pc
<8> Did you try Firefox too?
<8> >>>:->
<5> yes...
<6> talios: I can listen to the mp3s from http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/derricutt
<7> excellent :)
<6> Is that the right album?
<7> Symmetry - the only one.
<7> at least the only one on cdbaby.com
<6> Can't you make him a website, man? His current one is so... empty
<6> And a blog, that would be actually interesting!
<6> Get a 'net following
<7> he was paying a guy to do a funky flash thing - but what the guy came back with - was overly overly ****y :(
<6> He should pay you, do something cool.
<6> You're cheap, right? :)
<7> I suggested a blog based site last year but he "didn't want no stinkin journal"
<7> Yeh but I'm not into doing families ;p
<6> And I read <5 blogs
<7> the old FELT site was actually quite well done
<6> Damn, just getting into the song, and it's cut off :)
<6> They should sell download-only albums, for cheaper price
<6> for the ipod generartion
<7> they do do digital downloads which Ed said he'd signed up for - but I've not seen any evidence of the CD in the iTunes music store yet, or as mp3 downloads yet.
<6> cdbaby wants us$13.99. If it was half that, download only, I'd buy it on a whim.
<6> WTF do I want with a CD? :)
<7> You want to look at the funky artwork
<7> sell the cardboard :)
<7> smell even
<6> Pffft, if I bought a cd, I'd rip it, and sell it straight on. Which isn't really fair.
<6> My karma wants me to buy download-only :)
<4> I won't buy anything downloadable if it's not encoded in lossless format. Unfortunately no one afaik offers such things :(.
<6> I don't mind lossy, but at high bitrate. 320 or so
<4> and the issue of proving you've bought the song legally is another problem
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