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<0> they just came out jbuilder2006 that integrated with eclipse
<1> ksmith: i don't know about dead, but it has lost its mainstream popularity to netbeans, eclipse and IDEA, in my experience. that means that it is harder to find people who can help you with it.
<2> it was on the news last week
<0> what news ?
<2> internet news
<0> Rob you are a one funny dude...
<2> Casualty in the IDE Wars: JBuilder is dead
<2> http://www.javalobby.org/java/forums/t63512.html
<0> man and you believe in the internet news ?
<3> hello MaggieL
<0> man anyone can post a news like that
<0> i am not defending jbuilder or anything but I don't believe that kind of **** news
<2> borland published that news
<0> dude show me the link that borland published that news
<2> http://bdn.borland.com/article/0,1410,33439,00.html
<0> the fact is this. Eclipse is very popular out there but majority of the big consultant firms like Raytheon, EDS, SAIC, Northrop, they required developers to use jbuilder
<2> big as in: never heard of them
<2> anyways, whats your problem with jbuilder?
<4> EDS dosen't force you to use JBuilder
<0> i just installed CVSNT and i am trying to integrate jbuilder2006 to use cvs
<1> ksmith: do you really need that integration? in consulting companies you have admin monkeys who set such stuff up for you.,
<0> when it connect with cvs it asks for username/p***word
<2> eclipse offers great cvs integration out of the box
<0> what is username/p***word ? is it windows username/p***word ?
<2> ksmith, you should configure a user to use cvsnt
<2> read the cvsnt documentation
<2> but yes, it normally matches your windows account
<0> yeah i put in username of the windows account but it won't take it
<2> ofcourse
<2> you need to add that user to cvsnt first
<0> i am at the cvsnt admin panel but there is no where that let you add username
<2> do the cvsnt tutorial
<2> use the command line
<0> i read the documentation and I didn't see it
<2> its all there
<0> anyway, let me do some more searching
<0> i thought maybe you guys would know
<2> well I don't know by heart
<0> but I still love Eclipse
<2> the cvsnt wiki pages show how its done
<0> my company requires us to use jbuilder
<1> ksmith: you also have the admins set up the repositories in consulting companies.
<2> and there are alternative cvsnt tutorials
<2> Clackwell, maybe he installed cvsnt at h ome
<2> then he's the admin
<1> ksmith: consider a separate cvs client. something like tortoisecvs works out of the box without any set effort at all.
<2> Clackwell, using tortoisecvs doesn't matter
<0> hey rob i am not a "he" ...LOL
<2> he needs to configure cvsnt first
<1> Rob_uknow: i am sure he does. i wonder why. may not be necessary for the "may be required for job" thing.
<1> Rob_uknow: nope, you don't
<1> tortoisecvs integrates cvs. you just create the repository, locally, then use it.
<1> no adding of users or anything.
<2> ah
<1> maybe he wants to be an admin?
<2> but he uses cvsnt
<1> cvs, cvsnt, same thing
<2> no no
<2> cvsnt is a windows implementation of a cvs server
<1> it is also the name of the client, as far as i know.
<5> companyRequiredDevTool--
<1> hi mag
<5> Hiya teralaser
<5> Clackwell :-)
<3> MaggieL : is the job keeping out of irc ?
<5> If I was on JBuilder, I'd be thinking about my next move.
<5> teralaser: Yeah, pretty much. Super busy, plus commute time is much longer.
<3> MaggieL : I ***ume that is , at least partly, a good thing.
<3> ( +job , -commute time)
<5> It is indeed. I'm on staff as R&D engineer...well paid plus incredible benefits.
<5> Makes the commute worthwhile.
<2> how long to commute?
<5> Furthermore, for the first time in a long time I'm working for a boss who is smarter than I am. That's a little scary.
<5> About an hour, each way.
<3> MaggieL : Also you are free of the uncertainty "when I am getting a job... when,when,when"
<2> pew
<3> must be nice, though
<5> It is.
<3> I would prefer any day to work with people smarter than me, than the opposite.
<5> Rob_uknow: Well...you deal with the situation at hand. My boss drives even further.
<5> Google maps says it's 42 miles.
<2> what car do you have?
<5> Car: http://voicenet.com/~maggie/mslsaturn.html
<1> ksmith: if my company required me to learn to do the admin part as well as using new tools in my spare time, i'd be a little astonished, personally.
<2> fancy car
<2> i've never heard of Saturn
<5> Not really.
<5> Could buy one today used for us$5000
<3> Rob_uknow : Saturn is a non-luxury no-haggle car in the U.S. made by ... Ford ?
<3> or is it GM ?
<5> GM.
<3> Unlike other car brands, you don't have to haggle around dealerships to get to the right price.
<5> That was the claim, anyway.
<3> What is the price of gas these days in the U.S. ? 2.3$/gal. ?
<3> They say the 1.5$/gal. days will never come back
<2> 1.27,9 euro for 95 octane gas
<2> one liter
<3> well, Rob_uknow, that's hardly the U.S. price
<3> :D
<2> true
<5> About $2.40 around here.
<3> ok
<2> mpg?
<2> miles per gallon/
<5> I would imagine some of the new hybrids are in that range.
<3> Rob_uknow : About 19 km/l
<2> not many cars can do that
<2> only small cars like the vw polo manage that
<3> Mine does ? The EU-norm says even more 26 km/l ... although I'd never been able to do that
<5> Apparently there is some controversy about how to measure fuel efficiency too.
<2> yeah
<5> http://www.wired.com/news/autotech/0,2554,63413,00.html
<2> the values that the car manufacturers name are theoretical
<2> name = mention
<3> Yes, the efficient European cars go on diesel, and pollute more than U.S. diesel cars are allowed to (only slightly more, though)
<2> even with partical systems?
<3> Do they sell hybrid cars in Holland ?
<2> yes
<2> toyota prius
<2> but they are expensive
<3> in Denmark they are inhibitorially expensive, because of the 200% car tax
<2> so no one buys one
<2> and the goverment is hestitant to drop tax for fuel economic cars
<5> Here, the milage figures quoted in advertising are the result of a government-designed test.
<3> well, I know for a fact, that I drive 50 mpg on mine, unless they rigged the odometer too !
<5> If my airplane was kept at KLOM instead of at N47, I could commute by air. :-)
<3> uh nice
<3> anywhere to land, though ?
<5> I wonder what the fuel consumption would be.
<5> Sure...
<3> they say lifting and landing are the expensive parts
<5> 1N9 isn't far from work
<5> And KLOM is a few miles down the road from home
<3> well, maybe at some point you can work some days at home.
<5> I may do that tomorrow if the guy with the snow plow doesn't show up. :-)
<5> Let's see...41 miles...
<5> ...at about 130 mph or so...
<5> Probably around three gallons of avgas.
<5> A 20 minute flight. :-)
<6> could a midlet be written enabling me to connect to the pc with my cellular through GPRS?
<2> sure
<2> you can connect to an url
<2> so run a webserver on your puter
<2> then you can connect to it
<2> i think the wireless toolkit comes with examples
<6> mmm great
<6> could i run programs on my pc after connecting
<2> yes
<1> 'orrible
<6> is there a free midlet available ?
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