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<0> heh
<0> DeepC thats a cool nick
<1> hi
<2> afternoon calchas
<1> hi
<1> how goes it?
<3> cine stie PHP cu ochii inchisi ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
<4> morning
<5> hi
<5> how long does it take for SocketInputStream.socketRead0 to timeout?
<6> hi
<6> i am using NetBeans IDE..
<6> how can i know the CL***PATH?
<6> moreover
<6> i have a project foler
<6> folder
<6> and i have cl***es in an inner folder
<6> and i have cl***es in a folder within the project folder
<6> question is, if i build the project, i get cl***es but does the compilation build a file for each cl***?
<7> decoworld`: you build a cl***path in netbeans, like in most other IDE's, by adding libraries and JDKs to your project (look for a project settings dialog somewhere, probably under the file menu)
<7> decoworld`: The source folder (where you keep your java) files should be added as a source directory, probably in the same dialog where you add libraries, or nearby it
<6> i see wlfsmn
<7> decoworld`: each .java file will produce one or more .cl*** files. One for each cl***, obviously.
<6> yeah
<6> because i want to build a package
<6> and want to use cl***es from another project
<6> would be convenient if i just copy and paste that cl*** file to the package folder
<6> and then import the package from another project
<7> decoworld`: I expect you can add loose cl***es as libraries if need be, but if these cl***es aren't already libraries, and you don't have access to their source, I rather doubt you are allowed to use them.
<6> i build the cl***es myself.. so its ok
<6> created*
<6> the cl***path thing is just messing my mind now
<6> :(
<7> decoworld`: I'm afraid I don't use netbeans myself unless at gunpoint, so I'm not very familiar with it's specifics
<6> is it recommended for beginners?
<6> what IDE are you using then?
<7> Most would argue that for beginners, it's better to not use an IDE at all, so you get used to concept such as the cl***path
<6> ok
<7> I personally use IntelliJ IDEA
<6> i am now on chapter 5 of thinking through java. and i make programs for the exercises using netbeans
<7> It's a commercial product however, so I wouldn't suggest it as your first IDE, but when you go shopping for an IDE later, I wholeheartedly recommend that it be one of those you evaluate
<6> ok
<6> by the way
<6> the library and package terms still confuses me
<6> are they the same?
<6> the functionality is the same.. but
<7> No. A package referes to the hierarchy of cl***es. For example, in a fully qualified cl*** name such as "org.apache.commons.configuration.Configuration"
<6> when i use netbeans... i get an a project option to make a library
<6> within the library tree is an unnamed package :/
<7> Configuration is the cl*** name, the period-separated parts before that refere to packages and subpackages
<6> ok
<6> but what is a library?
<7> typically, these packages also map to a corresponding directory hierarchy in your source directory
<6> library is a group of related packages?
<6> that would make the concept of lirary superfluous, wouldn't it
<7> You use packages for a few diffrent things, for example, they affect scope with the package-level scope, they also simply help you organize your code, and to disambiguate cl***es with similar names
<7> decoworld`: a "library" is really nothing more than a .jar file (whioch is a compressed archive) contaning compiled cl***es for reuse
<6> oh ok
<6> the library of a java program
<6> ...
<6> cool
<6> thanks for enlightening that part
<7> no problem
<8> http://www.flurl.com/item/Zidane_u_156972
<9> Access to this web page is restricted at this time.
<9> Reason:
<9> The Websense category "Adult Content" is filtered.
<9> heh
<8> sabre: ask your parents to give you access to the site. :>
<9> i think i better not
<8> well, it's safe for work.
<9> i was #1 on yahoo messenger in the company last week
<9> :Z
<8> spiced up variants of zidane's headbutt
<10> Clackwell: Haha.
<9> why can't we use open source tools ARGGGGGG
<11> OpenSSL?
<9> everyone bitches about starteam so now they switch us to clearcase
<9> wtf
<8> as if just any random open source crap is any better than any random commercial crap.
<9> well it would be if more people used
<9> cvs is good stuff
<9> but noooooooooo...it's not ibm
<10> No reason to use CVS over SVN.
<9> or svn
<10> Some companies feel safer with support contracts.
<12> we're just about to move to subversion from CVS, finally
<10> They'd be safer still if they employed better people.
<9> just no desire to move away from proprietary tools...pisses me off
<10> So leave.
<9> in the works :Z
<10> Or change their opinions, or shut up.
<10> ;)
<9> i'd have a better shot at making you shut up ;)
<10> Why, are you an op?
<9> now you see my point
<10> Not really, no. Removing somebody doesn't make a point.
<9> or maybe you don't
<9> the point is they are not going to listen to me
<9> but i'm going to bitch about it
<9> so telling me to shut up is wasting your breath
<10> Your effort would be better directed into learning how to persuade people to listen to you.
<9> and part of it is knowing what battles to fight
<10> Moin Clackwell.
<8> hi
<9> your webserver is wide open :)
<8> maybe that is the intention. define "wide open" perhaps.
<9> Clackwell why do you like proprietary tools so much?
<13> help me image processing java language
<13> plz
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<13> PLZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
<13> hm??
<9> calm down first
<13> kk
<13> can u heko me?
<13> help me
<13> waaaaa
<13> i dont want to perform forier tranforms
<13> amfufufu
<8> i prefer philippina's looking for rich germans to marry them, i guess. :>
<14> I can't say I blame you.
<8> sabre: who said that i do? i just don't openly hate them for the usual emotional reasons given by open source lunatics.
<8> sabre: did you mean my web server? i am still interested in what you found problematic security wise.
<9> ah no that wasn't for you Clackwell
<9> Clackwell i think most open source tools are at least now as good as proprietary ones
<8> sabre: ah, ok. :) i disagree on the open source tools claim.
<9> Clackwell can you give me an example or two?
<8> there are probably more open source tools out there than commercial ones. you base your claim on the most popular ones, naturally ignoring the myriads of nameless crap which actually *IS* nameless because it is so crappy.
<15> Mornin.
<8> moin Resonator
<15> How goes things in #java world?
<9> Clackwell so no particular example?
<9> :)
<8> sabre: http://home.arcor.de/blackwell/current.html
<8> sabre: http://home.arcor.de/blackwell/obsolete.html
<8> 90% or more of that is complete crap.
<8> but it is open source.
<8> and like these tiny tools, there are millions of others. nameless, crappy, useless.
<9> well i was referring to enterprise cl***
<8> these broad, sweeping, positive claims about open source almost always only focus on the already proven to be not utterly useless and crappy stuff.
<8> well, and now you limit your claim even further. :)
<14> It's the pillar of zealotry... stand by the obvious and ignore everything else.
<8> if there are competitive open source alternatives that make sense to use for all the reasons relevant to you, go use them. i would, and do.
<9> well at least we know that open source tools will not make a change every five years to a new technology and charge companies for it
<9> aka price gouging
<9> so if we work towards a common goal then at least that problem can be solved thus creating more money for me as a programmer
<9> and more IT jobs
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