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<0> please tell me youre not in college MH
<1> i got this java course for a year
<1> but this is not what im doing
<0> i see. go grab Deitel and Deitel's Java book
<1> i got one
<1> baileys
<0> and yet youre still asking questions in IRC chans??
<1> but it ****s
<0> like i said grab the one i mentioned
<1> my teacher ****s
<1> im in greece the vook is in the uk
<1> book
<0> i know youre in greece. you cant get books there?
<1> only in greek
<0> really? that ****s haha
<1> anyways



<0> haha ok
<1> there are and english
<1> but
<1> hard to find it in my town
<2> as usuall, the book ****s, the teachers ****, the computers ****, the world ****s..
<1> only by web
<2> a poor craftsman blames his tools
<0> amen to that
<0> just like i blamed eclipse last night! lol
<3> A poor crafstman probably can't afford decent tools and his hammers and saws keep breaking and snapping... surely he can blame them, it's not his fault he's poor and can't afford decent ones.
<1> ice
<1> i think the right is the B
<0> ?
<2> dave-e: Except there are good free tools on the net ;)
<0> hahaha
<2> Mind_Hunter_: Don't spoonfeed the newbies
<1> lol
<1> sorry
<1> lol
<0> am i missing something?
<1> yes its B
<2> icenyne: quite possibly. Most of us do from time to time
<1> triple?
<2> Mind_Hunter_: only if needed for behavioural modification.
<2> Mind_Hunter_: At some point, the cattle prod gets involved.
<0> i dont know what 'yes its B' means lol
<1> my problem is huge btw
<1> about the question that i asked b4
<2> ah, true that
<0> oh hahaha
<1> and u remind me how to do it
<1> lol
<1> hohoh
<0> sorry forgot i was getting paid contractor fees for doing programming 101 homework
<1> i could really read plato for a month without stop instead of java
<1> lol
<0> heres a question for anyone who uses eclipse. just updated to 3.2 and im wondering where this supposed 'memory heap log' thing is
<0> how do i look at the memory heap?
<1> dunno
<0> didnt think you would. wolf you got any ideas?
<1> yep
<2> icenyne: none I'm afraid, I'm not an eclipse user
<0> lucky you :)
<4> does anyone know where i can download java.comm.properties and win32com.dll
<5> google does.
<6> re
<5> oy Resonator
<6> Mornin.
<4> if its so easy please show me a url
<5> in fact, searching for java.comm.properties download gives a good result on the first hit.
<5> the .dll file can be harder. Its not java related and not all dll files are free.
<5> Resonator: how's the day looking for you ?
<6> Lion-O: very busy :) Yours?
<5> Resonator: well, just finished a rather busy day. Shopping, cleaning up a house, etc. That and regular business in between, I'm looking forward to the weekend 8)
<4> when you download the package from sun, it gives you niether, all you get under the generic is the comm.jar file
<6> Lion-O: sounds good :)
<5> Resonator: at least I'll have beer this evening 8)
<6> Beer makes everything better.



<5> Resonator: except programming ;)
<0> yeah im still a littl ehung over from last night and im not really doing all that much haha
<5> at least I got my servlet (/webapplication) working and accepting JNDI for both mysql and javamail sessions.
<0> anyone know anything about proguard?
<7> icenyne: never heard of it. did you solve the ant problem? i'll be heading home soon and wouldn't mind giving it another go later on.
<7> well, see you later.
<0> i got it :)
<0> had to set the build.xml script with: <javac optimize="true" fork="yes" memoryInitialSize="512M" memoryMaximumSize="800M"
<0> but thanks!
<0> now im running out of memory when ant tries to run proguard! lol
<0> next step
<0> oh and as far as it not being able to find JAVA_HOME or some crap i had to take tools.jar out of the project and put it as an include in the ant globals
<0> Thanks for all the help Clack
<8> hello
<9> hi
<8> i got 2 java's souce and i try to put both together but they dont work. can you try to make it works?
<9> no, what fails?
<8> only one work when i put together in a notepad, maybe i put in the wrong place
<8> or it is impossible to java's scripts works together in the same editor
<9> should be a file per cl***
<9> definitly one file per public cl***
<9> do you get a compile error?
<8> no
<8> but it's ok... ill use it individually
<8> thank u
<5> java scripts? are we talking javascript here by any chance? ;)
<9> if it worries you ask the question properly with a decent respect and less sarcasm
<4> does anyone have win32comm.dll, or know where i can get it
<7> http://youtube.com/watch?v=4mPXUuxXwQw
<9> hi Clackwell
<7> hi cal :) how's that texan sun treating you?
<9> arizonan, already 35C here and not 10am yet
<9> but hi is likely to only be 40
<7> oh, well, same thing for a yuropean :)
<7> urgs
<9> I'm flying home to Ireland next week :)
<7> we had a bunch of heat here, but that's gone again.
<9> I saw on the news and complaints from uk relatives
<7> calchas: oh yeah, i heard about london having issues with water...
<7> calchas, how long will you stay there? a week?
<9> for futi
<9> ure
<9> future, end of ***ignment :)
<7> calchas: oh, wow! is that good?
<9> very
<7> calchas: so you have everything packed and shipped off already?
<9> pretty close, they take my home shipment tomorrow
<9> wonder if flight home will be mayhem after uk activity today
<9> time will tell
<7> calchas: yeah, that may be weird.
<9> will still happen somehow
<7> hm, what will?
<9> at least times will sort out by next week
<9> the flight
<7> yeah, just be patient ;)
<9> yep
<7> makes sure to have that whisky and that small bottle of wine :>
<7> calchas: are you on vacation already?
<9> no, working from home, as I had appartment admin to do
<9> I get a week to transition continents 16th to 22nd inclusive
<7> calchas: ah. there are always some loose ends to tie up i guess.
<7> and if there aren't - just wait another hour and someone will report the next issue. ;)
<9> sort of
<9> I've built in time to sort stuff
<7> so how did it go overall? job done, all barriers torn down, no one hurt?
<7> customer happy?
<9> I got burned out, not a great success, customers happy, mangers idiots. I had too little support to achive their daft goals
<9> but it's sort of par for the course in all places
<9> the dual role was a bad idea, will learn and not do it again
<7> what dual role?
<9> data systems architect AND Statistician
<9> whenever you deliver something great in one role, you get dinged for not also doing it in the other
<9> lunacy


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